PLEASE READ: Qv2 has reached EOL status

For someone who’s claiming to be so “gifted” and “superior” to all the users here, even going as far as saying that you made more “progress” than even Saint in your life, you seem to be lacking basic comprehension of simple words.

Truly fascinating.

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THIS is the issue why we haven’t advanced as a species yet.

People are SO HARD on the scientific process. But not everything can be explained with it (yet) and doesn’t have to.

Anyone who says this probably isn’t.

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Being top of the class and all is good stuff. But did you run a company yet? The answer is no.

You don’t have the experience to dictate to others what they are doing wrong nor do you have the data which is used to make such decisions.

Despite being explained to several times, you think you know better. And not only that, straight up say that SubClub is making a “terrible” decision based on your personal opinion.

What about the opinions of the rest of us who get great results? Are we delusional too? You are the only one who does the tests right.

By goodness I haven’t seen a bigger personification of ego than yours. There is no humility to learn from you. Only to judge.

And you know, am not surprised why you cannot talk with other men in nightclubs. As SaintSovereign rightly said, you throw off this superiority complex around. And that too without any real life business experience to back it up. Which is why you don’t know how to talk to anyone of us here either.

And so how will you succeed in life, my friend? A man needs people for his endeavors. Will you remain this way and waste all your talents because everyone will find you unbearable to communicate with with this attitude.

Seriously, you need some deep introspection to self-correct. Or all that talent will bear no fruit.

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@MadaraUchiha When did you first start using subclub products? Also you know all this hostility you have towards people could be signs of recon among other things ofcourse. I have noticed usually your ego is a little out there but at the moment your ego is in another universe lol.

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You know exactly what he means by let it go… don’t play coy

Just drop the subject and move on

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I would guess it could be from Khan. Ego on Khan is probably very powerful.

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Seriously.

The only tangible achievement Madara has demonstrated is an inability to read at a 6th grade level.

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What exactly do you mean by this… I highly doubt that you test products more then most… hell you probably switch more then most people. You also don’t give products enough time especially based on their size to really work or see as you would call them significant results.

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It could be from a number of things

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I also find it downright pitiful how Madara equates wealth to intellect, especially in a day and age where you have idiots all across the Internet stumbling into boatloads of money ass-backwards.

Even with your limited understanding of the English language, I think it would do you well to read Siddharta by Herman Hesse @MadaraUchiha. But you probably won’t, as you won’t feel that it brings you any ‘tangible’ value whatsoever.

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Everyone, please.

I urge you all to calm down and let this go.

We can teach a person, but not his ego.

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As you have stated multiple time you have tried all the wealth subs that did nothing to help your money goals but mind’s eye did… ZP hasn’t been around publicly long enough for you to test all the wealth subs and give them ample amount of time to see these huge results you want.

This goes for everyone

While ZP works much faster and you will see results(which can be the simplest of thing) in a few days to a few weeks time. Subs no matter the technology will still take time to see big changes for most people but it also depends on your starting point when you start whatever sub you are using in accordance of your goals.

Subs are not a magic pill… we are not in the matrix yet lol.

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Very well said.

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@MadaraUchiha

I just wanna say I am confused by your ADHD medicine analogy and your emphasis on Qv2 solely. @Lion made a good point bringing up the previous builds. If you are as caring about giving others options and a fair chance to test out the build/format best suit them, you’d have insisted SubClub to make all builds ever made available instead of just Qv2. In fact wouldn’t you yourself wanna test the previous builds since there is no way for you to know how they would work on you without gathering the data yourself.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELLY NO WAY FOR YOU OR ANYONE ELSE TO KNOW THAT ZP FORMAT WILL UNIVERSALLY WORK BETTER THEN QV2 FOR EVERYONE AND ANY SUCH CLAIM IS 100% ABSURD AND UNSCIENTIFIC…

I think you used the word “universally” and “everyone” misleadingly. Also I don’t think SubClub ever made claims that ZP works on users universally. All they said was ZP was an improvement over Qv2 according to data, such as testers’ feedback and other testing they did privately. According to your statement, the closest way to know “absolutely” that something is better than something for “everyone universally” is to well, test it out on the 7.7 billions people on this planet. Yet I afraid that even if it was the case, you would still find ways to claim it wasn’t scientific enough for you.

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This is not a response to MU

But this is for ZP

I started my stark + RM custom last week. I have only ran it once so far and let me tell you lol. Those modules i can already see working like crazy. I have gorgeous manifestor in there and i shit you not everywhere i go 10s are everywhere eyeing me up and down lol.

ZP customs are pretty amazing. i feel as if the modules really show themselves a lot quicker then on Qv2.

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Very intriguing.

I won’t have my first ZP custom until July. But I’m still working with one of my older Qv2 customs right now. I love this custom. And I’m not ready to part with it or upgrade it yet. I want to give it more time to show its stuff.

So, for now, it’s Qv2/ZP hybrid.

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Congrats to you, man. That’s a great achievement.

Enjoy it!!!

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RM also helps in seeing beauty in everything.
Which would make adding GorMan to it a smooth experience.

:slight_smile: :ok_hand:t2:

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Have you ever heard the saying, “the emperor has no clothes?” It comes from a story by Hans Christian Andersen called “The Emperor’s New Clothes.” You should read it, as you’re revealing yourself as the emperor in that story.

Let me explain to you how this works, and let’s see if that alleged superior intelligence can decipher this. I’m going to tell you the fictional, but based on a true story of a subliminal company – not ours, but a popular one – that attempted to create a very ambitious title designed to attract women to the user. Let’s call this program “Demsee.”

You see, the first version of Demsee had remarkable potential. It seemed to hit the target goal, but the aura it projected was “dirty,” for lack of a better word, and could leave the subliminal user drained. But, that was to be expected – it was an experimental program. A few vocal members of that community, however, began to claim that they weren’t getting any results AT ALL and began to diminish the results of the other members, referring to them as “placebo,” or claiming that they could get women without the title, so their results didn’t matter. While many people were saying this, there was one VERY vocal user who claimed to a millionaire virgin who claimed to see no results at all. Nothing. Was as if he were listening to silence. Let’s call this individual, Tybalt, the Prince of Cats (after the character in Romeo and Juliet, no relation to a real life person OF COURSE).

The proprietor of that company – let’s call him Bannon – decided that he would pivot the development of the program toward turning non-responders into responders. His logic and reasoning were sound: if he could get even the most stubborn of non-responders (Tybalt, in this case) to get laid, then all the incels of the world could cry out in joy, for they could get laid too.

And so, virtuous Bannon (and this isn’t a joke, this individual is very thoughtful, kind and had the best intentions) began to release version after version of Demsee attempting to get these non-responders to respond. Guess what happened?

They didn’t respond. And with each new version of Demsee, it grew more bloated and weaker. Those who were responding well at first began to see diminished results and eventually, the program seemed to stop working completely. For everyone. No one got any results.

And now, what is Demsee? The program that had so much potential is little more than a blight on the history of that company.

And here’s the messed up thing. While Tybalt was on that company’s forums talking about how he was a virgin, women were NEVER attracted to him, he couldn’t understand any lessons from the red pill, etc., he was another forum regarding a substance that you can spray on your neck to attract women going on and on about how every time he goes out wearing a particular scent, all the ladies were hanging off of him.

What does this mean? It means Tybalt is a liar. He’s either lying about the lack of results from Dimsee, or he’s lying about his results from the scents – but either way, he lied. He was an unreliable narrator, terrible dataset and absolutely someone that you shouldn’t base the success of your product on.

But, the thing is, Tybalt probably wasn’t the only person lying about their lack of results. We see the same behavior here, where people will run a program, get extraordinary results, and then hand-wave them away. I’ll never forget the individual that ran the first version of Libertine, went on a business trip to a resort, had all this amazing sex with beautiful women, then came back and literally made up excuse after excuse why Libertine didn’t help with any of it. “I knew this person before Libertine, so it couldn’t have been that, also a resort is a place that’s inherently sexually charged, so that makes me discount Libertine, etc.”

Now, why does this matter? I probably could’ve made this point without the story, but I think it’s much more fun this way, don’t you agree?

Anyway, the moral of this story is: We don’t shoot for a 100% success rate, because there’s a lot of people here who are fucking liars. I don’t know what Tybalt’s problem was – why he’d lie over and over about his results, but we decided from the start that it wasn’t going to happen with us.

Here’s how WE do it. We analyze all the feedback and using a proprietary algorithm and other factors, we calculate a success rate. If the success rate of a new build method is higher than the last, we EoL the last generation and bring in the new. It’s called ITERATIVE UPDATING, it’s a common practice and yes, it is “scientific.”

As I stated all along, you simply didn’t have all the data and ASSUMED we were trying to hit a 100% success rate. Nope. Qv2 was 45-55% successful. ZP is 60-75% successful, far more than any other subliminal producer. That’s enough for us to move on, figure out why ZP is more successful than Qv2 and then build upon ZP. There’s no point in building upon Qv2 any further – we took that technology as far as we reasonably could before we realized that we needed to pivot.

Your world is limited, @MadaraUchiha, partially because of the fact that you’re on the spectrum. You naturally see things as a binary. 0 or 1. Yes or no. Tangible or “intangible,” with the former being only things you can touch, see, smell, qualify, quantify. But this universe is more than that. This reality is more than that. You have senses that you don’t even realize exist because you are unable or unwilling to engage with them.

You try to place yourself superior to me because I wasn’t a millionaire in my twenties. I wasn’t a millionaire in my twenties because I identified as a socialist / anti-capitalist. At one point in my life, I didn’t even believe in the ownership of property, because “who can own the Earth?” I had a good career, made good money, but I was more concerned with getting laid, playing video games and waxing poetics with the Ivory Tower. But make no mistake, I was just as brilliant then as I am now, and i I DID want to make money, I would’ve.

As you can see, when I grew out of that unbalanced state and began to evolve into who I am now, I started making money. Easily. And now, I’ve broken through all wealth ceilings and can make as much money as I want, with my own companies. I’ll never be broke again.

But you… you’re in trouble. In case you haven’t noticed, the powers that be seem hell bent on destroying fiat money and replacing it with Central Bank Digital Currencies (Google any NATO country and CBDC and you’ll see that every one of them are developing a digital currency). We already know what these individuals can do with a central bank based on fiat, imagine what will happen when they introduce a digital currency that they have full control over.

Our goal at SubClub isn’t just profit. Yes, we enjoy money and the life that we are afforded, but we have a much different mission. It’s not to get 100% of everyone to respond. It’s to MAXIMIZE the amount of people who responds to our titles. That means that sometimes, we have to leave old technologies behind and run straight forward into the future, whatever that may be. And with the future looking so grim (and paradoxically positive at the same time), what we want is to make sure that our customers have tools to navigate through these times.

Qv2 had to die to achieve that goal. Now, please put some clothes on and think about what you’re going to say next.

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