You can call it Stormbreaker
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Excellent !
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@Malkuth - okay 
Unfortunately he largely doesn’t understand the discussion. SubClub isn’t a business made for testers. It is made for customers who want the things that work. And since that is proven with ZP, the company will naturally move on to better tech regardless of the complaints of a few.
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This is very true.
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I don’t know if it’s manifestation or no, but literally 2 minutes ago I finished watching Avengers: Infinity War where Thor got Stormbreaker and fought with it.
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plus more characters
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First, you misunderstood what I meant, not sure if that’s intentional.
Second, you ignored the other points and locked on to this one, as it’s the only one you’re able to counter with this “you don’t understand science” nonsense. Wherever someone does this to me — where I’ll list five points and they ignore all but one to force their agenda — that individual is permanently downgraded in my mind and anything they say after that is just ignored. I don’t even take the time to respond.
You are dangerously close to that point.
You don’t have the data that we have. You don’t have the insight that we have, because you don’t have access to our data.
You do not have access to any of our decision making processes. You cannot understand the decision because you don’t know how we made the decision, and we have no intention of telling you or anyone else.
If you cannot understand this point — that without our data, you cannot make the claims that you are — then you are not as intelligent as I thought, and I will mentally downgrade you, and that’s that.
It’s so hilarious that people are always trying to claim that one decision or another is going to lead to our complete downfall, and it never happens.
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im not sure what you are referring to here but my point since seeing this thread has been remains the same.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELLY NO WAY FOR YOU OR ANYONE ELSE TO KNOW THAT ZP FORMAT WILL UNIVERSALLY WORK BETTER THEN QV2 FOR EVERYONE AND ANY SUCH CLAIM IS 100% ABSURD AND UNSCIENTIFIC
this has been the same point i have repeated over and over again since seeing this thread and no one has addressed it directly.
none of this matters and has nothing to do with the scientific process.
the fact that you think one entities data somehow supersedes the scientific process again confirms a completely flawed understanding of the scientific process.
I gave a very easy to understand example with the ADHD medication to clearly demonstrate why this is a terrible decision and no one has addressed that directly either.
im very confident that my TANGIBLE life achievements for my age are far superior to yours or anyone else on this forum.
by any tangible/objective measure i have always been and remain exceptionally smart.
i NEVER made such a claim.
i do NOT at all think this will lead to your downfall and in no way am i wishing you bad luck.
what a weird thing for you to even suggest; which part of anything i have said in this thread leads you to somehow now imply that im rooting for you to fail.
i believe you have made a terrible decision that reveals a fundamentally flawed understanding of the scientific process and basic psychology and biology.
that is my stance.
i do NOT in any way wish bad things for you or subclub.
where is such a thought even coming from?
what an incredibly offensive thing for you to even suggest.
i am probably one of your most active and serious customers and actively use your products right now and somehow you are implying im rooting for you to fail?
wtf?
The thread was announcing a business decision, not a scientific theory. (Nor were there any scientific claims made.)
Besides, it wasn’t a new decision. Older versions have been unlisted before, and that Qv2 was next to go – had been known for months already.
Whether or not there was a scientific process behind it, or it was all emotional, or financial, or operational, or whatever … makes no difference. Every company is free to add or remove things from their product catalog/menu, based on whatever is sensible to them at the time.
Sure, they may gain or lose customers because of it … but that’s true for ALL decisions anyway.
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absolutely.
its their company and they can do what they want.
and im free as a customer to state my opinion which is:
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i think its a terrible decision
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i think the reasoning provided for the decision is unscientific and reveals a fundamentally flawed understanding of basic biology and psychology.
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i think its unacceptable and unfair to make such a change while only providing 3 days notice and without even emailing existing customers to give them a chance to download those products
they can do what they want with their company and i can articulate my thoughts on the decision
You mean this? 
I don’t see anything fundamentally flawed here.
I can agree with this sentiment. 
Though there have been emails about Zero Point for quite some time already. So it won’t be much of a shock to those who actually read the emails.
I could … but it would be a pointless waste of time.
Historically, many medications have been pulled off-market … many medicine-making technologies have been upgraded without telling the buyers about it … etc.
If a doctor tells me that an injectible is always better than a pill, I’m not gonna argue.
If a nutritionist tells me that cold-pressed oil is always better than heated ones, I’m not going to search research papers to prove them wrong.
If I disagree, I’ll go get a second opinion.
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Doubtful. You are being an elitist with a superiority complex.
We were just offered millions for this company just three months ago and turned it down. We get investment offers at least once a month and reject them, lest this company becomes a shell of what it was. In four years, we went from everyone thinking that we were imposters to being hounded by rich people trying to buy us out.
You don’t know this, because again, we don’t tell you. Every notion you think you have about this situation is based on limited data, meaning your assertions are all factually inaccurate.
And unless you have a company that’s worth that much, built in a niche that everyone expects to fail, created and maintained by just two people, stand down.
Last chance. Let it go.
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Dude please don’t reply
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im still in my 20s right now and passed millions in career earnings around 5 years ago.
if i remember correctly you are in your mid 30s right now?
so yes im very confident that my TANGIBLE life achievements are far superior to yours.
and that does not even include things me being in the gifted program where i did my entire school year in 5 months instead of 10 months like normal kids.
your internal data is irrelevant to the scientific process.
as i have stated over and over again.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELLY NO WAY FOR YOU OR ANYONE ELSE TO KNOW THAT ZP FORMAT WILL UNIVERSALLY WORK BETTER THEN QV2 FOR EVERYONE AND ANY SUCH CLAIM IS 100% ABSURD AND UNSCIENTIFIC
this has been remains my point that no one has addressed directly.
stand down from what?
im NOT doing anything to you.
you already removed QV2 so what are you asking me to stand down from?
let what go?
you already removed QV2.
you are messaging me and im responding to your messages.
what exactly do you mean by “let it go”?
let what go?
again, you are posting about me and im responding to your posts so not sure what you mean by “stand down” or “let it go”
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