PLEASE READ: Qv2 has reached EOL status

[Simon]

@MadaraUchiha

THERE IS ABSOLUTELLY NO WAY FOR YOU OR ANYONE ELSE TO KNOW THAT ZP FORMAT WILL UNIVERSALLY WORK BETTER THEN QV2 FOR EVERYONE AND ANY SUCH CLAIM IS 100% ABSURD AND UNSCIENTIFIC

this has been remains my point that no one has addressed directly.

Why should anyone address it? This was never the claim.
All they said in the opening post was …

@SaintSovereign

Zero Point is drastically different from the Q-line of products.

[bombayduck]

@SaintSovereign

the powers that be seem hell bent on destroying fiat money and replacing it with Central Bank Digital Currencies (Google any NATO country and CBDC and you’ll see that every one of them are developing a digital currency). We already know what these individuals can do with a central bank based on fiat, imagine what will happen when they introduce a digital currency that they have full control over.

Damn Saint, you based as hell for this.

If only people truly understood the implications of the death of fiat…

[Simon]

@bombayduck

you based as hell

Had they been woke, I’d have been gone long ago.

[MadaraUchiha]

@SaintSovereign

I was just as brilliant then as I am now, and i I DID want to make money, I would’ve.

i skipped the story at the start and skimmed most of your post since by starting with an insult you clearly indicated that you are looking to engage in strawman arguments and not a rational debate.

but i will address this part

this is all assumptions.

like my teamates in high school who now claim years later they somehow would have made it to the NFL if this had happened or this had not happened.

all these statements are meaningless.

the only thing that matters is tangible achievements and my tangible achievements for my age are far superior to yours and almost certainly anyone on this forum.

there is no argument that can be made that you are smarter then me; its not even close.

ill put my tangible achievements at this age up against anyone here including you and im sure mine are far superior.

you can claim that this could have happened or that could have happened but its all assumptions and what matters is what you actually did do and im significantly younger then you and have already achieved far more tangible results.

@SaintSovereign

you simply didn’t have all the data and ASSUMED we were trying to hit a 100% success rate.

this is a strawman and does not in any way represent my stance.

@SaintSovereign

You naturally see things as a binary. 0 or 1. Yes or no.

another strawman.

@SaintSovereign

You try to place yourself superior

another strawman.

i clearly said that my TANGIBLE achievements for my age are far superior to yours and thus you are in no position to imply you are smarter then me.

[bombayduck]

@MadaraUchiha

the only thing that matters is tangible achievements

Genuinely pitiful.

Lana Rhoades has more tangible achievements than you at your age bud.

[unusualfellow]

Lana Rhodes back in the day!

[Invictus]

@bombayduck

Lana Rhoades

It’s Ramadan bro.

[unusualfellow]

I wish Lana Rhodes used Seductress for physical changes instead of a surgeon

[bombayduck]

bro you’ve got me laughing in front my computer like a dumbass

[Floridianninja]

@MadaraUchiha

the only thing that matters is tangible achievements and my tangible achievements for my age are far superior to yours and almost certainly anyone on this forum.

Do you want a cookie? seriously dude

You have the biggest ego of anyone I’ve ever talked to and that is saying something

No one cares about your achievements if you are gonna throw it in peoples faces… that is little manhood syndrome

Get off your high horse bud

[Trader]

Ignore the bully. He’ll go away

[Malkuth]

@MadaraUchiha

ill put my tangible achievements at this age up against anyone here including you and im sure mine are far superior.

You seem to be below average in any capacities related to emotional, interpersonal, or intrapersonal intelligence.

This is not an insult. It’s an observation.

Either way, Good luck to you @MadaraUchiha.

There are other people on this forum, some of whom are lurkers I think, who deserve this attention, and who are not getting it because of this non-topic.

I hope that they’ll get more of that attention. Other than the interesting posts by Saint, this feels like a waste of time.

[unusualfellow]

A lot of this is conflating titles and builds. Primal seduction: Iron throne Ultima v2 has given our friend results he has not yet matched using zp.

The said title in ultima v2 also contained more aura I believe and was primal seduction: iron throne as opposed to primal seduction.

[Lion]

@MadaraUchiha - Dude. For all we know you have no tangible achievements and are just shooting off your mouth that you are smart. We have yet to see anything remotely reaching intelligence from you so far. You only have arrogance and tons of it.

SaintSovereign and Fire do have tangible achievements and it is this business. And more successful than any other sub maker both paid and free. And this is independently verified by users of all kinds of subliminals from various makers who come from those places and see drastic changes that verge on the point of miracle and who say so on the forum.

You are seriously out of touch with reality.

[SaintSovereign]

@MadaraUchiha

you can claim that this could have happened or that could have happened but its all assumptions and what matters is what you actually did do and im significantly younger then you and have already achieved far more tangible results.

And yet here you are, wasting everyone’s time clamoring for my products.

@MadaraUchiha

anything i want to get done now my first question is “which subclub product can i test to achieve this?”

Who is really in control here, then?

@MadaraUchiha

my life that had become so simple with subclub products literally being the only thing i use for self improvement but now i need to reconsider if that was a wise decision to go all in on you guys the way i had done up to now.

I thought you were a master of financial markets? I thought diversification was a basic concept there, as well as calculated risk.

@MadaraUchiha

like my teamates in high school who now claim years later they somehow would have made it to the NFL if this had happened or this had not happened.

Except I proved it because I’m a millionaire now, lol.

@MadaraUchiha

there is no argument that can be made that you are smarter then me; its not even close.

And again, here you are, buying products from me because they pretty much define your life right now. But if I were to ban you, permanently, right now – do you think it would affect my life nearly as much?You already tried to destroy us the last time we banned you and you failed miserably. PayPal sided against you, and all the review sites deleted your lies.

Again, who has more power than whom?

This, people, is why we tell you not to idolize us. We are entrepreneurs with a vision, not sages, not prophets. We’re just good at what we do, but that’s a skill that can be taught.

@MadaraUchiha, I debate with people FOR SPORT. Clearly, I don’t do it to my customers much, but “in the real world,” this is my favorite past time. I think you should realize that you’re not dealing with an idiot.

@MadaraUchiha

you can claim that this could have happened or that could have happened but its all assumptions and what matters is what you actually did do and im significantly younger then you and have already achieved far more tangible results.

And what exactly has these tangible results done for you? You are still here, searching, looking for something deeper, something more. One day, you’ll discover it and I believe you could be a force of nature.

But right now, you’re like a blunt object just smacking me in the forehead annoyingly.

[Brandon]

@SaintSovereign

But right now, you’re like a blunt object just smacking me in the forehead annoyingly.

This explains it perfectly.

[SaintSovereign]

@Malkuth

I hope that they’ll get more of that attention. Other than the interesting posts by Saint, this feels like a waste of time.

He’s right.

My apologies, all. I should not have indulged myself, lol. I really do enjoy a good debate, and believe it or not, @MadaraUchiha, for some reason I actually LIKE you. I’m not even remotely annoyed, I found this humorous. But, the wise sage is correct. I’ll let you respond to my last shot, and then we’re getting back on track.

[Floridianninja]

@Brandon

@SaintSovereign

But right now, you’re like a blunt object just smacking me in the forehead annoyingly.

This explains it perfectly.

I just LOL so bad at work

[Floridianninja]

@SaintSovereign

My apologies, all. I should not have indulged myself, lol. I really do enjoy a good debate, and believe it or not, @MadaraUchiha, for some reason I actually LIKE you. I’m not even remotely annoyed, I found this humorous. But, the wise sage is correct. I’ll let you respond to my last shot, and then we’re getting back on track.

Sweet back on track to those objective lists and other cool things

[MadaraUchiha]

@SaintSovereign

And yet here you are, wasting everyone’s time clamoring for my products.

no one is forcing you to message me,

you are wasting your own time.

@SaintSovereign

I thought you were a master of financial markets

another strawman.

i would never make such a claim.

please quote any post where i have called myself a master of anything

@SaintSovereign

And again, here you are, buying products from me because they pretty much define your life right now.

huh?

what a strange statement.

you have some great products and i have said that many times.

what is your point?

@SaintSovereign

Again, who has more power than whom?

huh?

wtf?

what are you even talking about?

i thought we where debating who was smarter?

@SaintSovereign

You are still here, searching, looking for something deeper, something more.

yes more money.

what i have been doing literally my whole life

@SaintSovereign

And what exactly has these tangible results done for you?

they have made me extremelly confident that im smarter then you and almost certainly anyone else on this forum.

again, i would put up my TANGIBLE life achievements at my age against you or anyone on this forum and i have no doubt mine are far superior.