Yes please?
There are very few titles that are “redundant” or “slight variations” of each other. You (or anyone else) would be hard pressed to actually be able to stand your ground in attempting to push this point, especially when talking about the re-imagined titles.
You are trying to simplify entire titles into a single word, like “social skills.” Daredevil and Daredevil: True Social are more than just “social skills,” there are wide differences in approaches, which again reflects the diverse nature of this planet.
Many of you seem to treat yourselves as carbon copies of everyone else, when it is obvious that approach completely changes the game. We never claimed that Zero Point was the best or ONLY way to create a subliminal audio title, only that our approach reflects natural processes that you see in society and in nature – which seems to generate a more effective end result, particularly in people who aren’t afraid to take action.
This very situation with subliminal audio reflects why we create titles with varying percentages of a certain type of scripting. I don’t want to run sexual scripting, but I do want to focus on my business. Thus, there are titles that cover business but have more sexual scripting, and there are titles that cover more business, but still contain sexual scripting.
We are not going to conform to some kind of “universal standard” of every sub containing exact proportions of every topic (a kitchensink sub) because of certain customers’ inability to discern the differences between them, nor will they simply ask and get community feedback, but will instead subtly introduce force as an attempt to control.
We built this little empire on the concept of diverse peoples needs diverse solutions and that’s how it will remain. No amount of FOMO being leveraged as philosophy can change that.
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In fact, let’s use an analogy to explain my point. Take a simple tool, like a hammer. It has limited function. Grab handle and bash. Whether that’s a nail or a wall, or anything, it’s primary function is for the user to pick it up by the handle and hit something. That is a given.
But one day, I decide that it wasn’t fair that there are so many different tools for job and couldn’t decide on which one, so I decided to make a SUPERHAMMER, with every tool that you could possibly use attached to it. No need for a tool chest. It’s all right there, attached to my trusty SUPERHAMMER.
I quickly build a prototype, with all the tools attached to the handle. Oops, ran into a problem. Now I can’t grip the hammer comfortably, even if I move the tools around. I can’t precisely hit what I need to hit. So I say, fine, I’ll put the other tools INSIDE the hammer.
Ooops. Hammer is now too bottom heavy. When I swing the hammer, I now tend to use either too much effort or not enough, since the hammer isn’t quite balanced, and I get inconsistent swings, damaging whatever project I was working on.
After moving the tools around and trying all sorts of tricks, I simply realize that there’s no way to create a single tool for every job. And so, I investigate the project, choose the three tools that’s best suited for the job and I rely on those.
We are open to the idea of strategies designed to illustrate the differences that may seem subtle. But the notion of “merging subs” or no longer having a diverse offering is completely off the table.
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You nailed it! Nice metaphor!
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Social environments that fit the script. Again, what people are attempting to do is take very detailed subjects (that they haven’t researched themselves) and reduce it down to a single term: “social skills,” and saying, “you should be able to put social skills in every title!”
And yes, social skills in some form is in a lot of the titles, but the scripting is geared to the goal of that title. If it’s Daredevil, it’s social skills tailored specifically to help you use your adventurous life experiences and present them in a manner that improves your social capital. In Nouveau R.I.C.H., it’s social skills to express your innovative, groundbreaking ideas to an audience that isn’t as receptive to social niceties – like investors. They’ll play the little “start of the meeting” game where there’s fun banter, but realistically, they give no shits about your life story but rather your profit potential.
People watch Shark Tank and think that’s what pitching to investors is actually like, but truth be told, those of us who have sat in these rooms before knows exactly what I’m talking about. There’s a strange dance of words, a mix between casual conversation and business and you’re expected to understand this hidden undercurrent, this vibe of the room.
Those of you who have been in this situation or anticipate that you will be one day, you may thank us if the social skills scripting has helped you develop the ability to navigate that tough moment in exactly the manner necessary rather than watering down the title with generic social skills, or taking out parts of the script that are laser focused on your business success in order to hit some kind of “universal quota.” And so the analogy made here:
Is thinking far too small. Because the social skills necessary for making friends, getting laid, sales and expanding your business are ALL unique, with individual sub-elements that contain less crossover than you may think.
Let’s take the sales industry for example, so our sales experts can chime in. Depending on the product, you have to use different sales tactics. Some industries works better with high-pressure sales tactics, others use a very long sales funnel that may take months to complete.
Hence why more data-driven sales teams will employ a metric called “Time to Sale,” or something similar, which measures the average time between when a company first touches an individual (a term meaning when the company and customer has made contact in some way – phone call, internet lead, etc.) and that individual becomes a customer.
Subscription-based companies measure something called “churn,” which is the rate of subscription fall-offs after the initial sign-up term. To lower churn rates, high-pressure sales don’t work at all – generally speaking, the customer has already decided that your product is sub-par for some reason and to get them back, you offer an incentive. This is why cell phone companies and Internet providers have a “retention department,” who will offer said incentives upon cancellation.
Now why does all this matter? It illustrates exactly what I’m talking about. There is no “one script” to anything. These ideas MUST be broken down into sub-elements that are well-researched for Zero Point to work.
When it comes to sales, in this situation, yes I am inclined to do the following: Create a “True Sell” upgrade that covers an overview of sales success. But then, I might just make a version for the data-driven marketer and sales expert called True Sell: Data is King. Then, if there’s enough demand, I would make an expanded, four stage version on just sales that includes both.
The ONLY similarity is that all three are on the subject of sales. But one is for the data-driven individual, and if we tailor that script toward them, we can fit in more relevant scripting to THEIR situation, and not water down the concepts because someone might be confused as to whether they need to use that version or not.
And as I’ve said before: If you have to question it, the answer is probably no.
That’s why we started the custom service. The major titles will remain as they are, and the custom service is available for anyone to make their perfect custom.
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Similar situation happened last week, didn’t it?
Perhaps this is a call, if you guys are receiving a lot of confusion from customers on your end, to expand or reformulate the sales pages? Its similar to those days where it was just that awesome story and maybe the included modules of older titles, before you included the expanded pages with all the similarities, objectives, and the other silly disclaimers that you must put out to protect the company and avoid the loonies
It’s not “a lot of people” at all.
The latest version of the copy literally has “features,” which explains that part of the scripting in great detail, along with tips on how to best use it. This is going beyond a “clarity” issue and merging into attempting to dictate how we create our titles, and that’s what I’m putting a stop on.
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Self-development is a much more complex and individualised process than we realized. It’s not only about the psychological differences but also, and the first of all, about our competences, which vary greatly within any area you can think of (sex, romance, finance, social realm etc.).
For example, many people struggle with running seduction titles successfully mainly because they need to improve their social competences in the first place. Many struggle with finances since they need to develop the most rudimentary financial habits (competences yet again) first.
Organic growth is the key. Gradual and steady development of the abilities to perform within a given intent. Starting from building up the most basic competences required for a certain outcome and then focusing on more complex and demanding so the overall ability to perform within a given intent improves… organically.
Like the ability to do the laces… it takes some time till the kid can perform it swiftly. Yet, later on, that ability can be built upon and applied to performing tasks requiring similar competences like the ability to focus, being persistent and basic dexterity.
TS is LEARNING “how to do the laces”, and then, honing the skill gradually and steadily, how to bond with people as if by a touch of the magic wand.
The organic development of our abilities to perform witihin given intents is the key to real growth and mind-blowing results.
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Sign me the heck up for this.
In my experience it’s not so much about being afraid to take action (unless it’s about approaching women solely lol but it’s another kind of anxiety anyhow) but the (self-) perceived inability to perform a certain action and the plain fear of failure. So, basically, giving up before even trying.
What is needed is that child’s curiosity and playfulness in trying new things. Ligth heartedly without worrying about the outcome, let alone possible “failures”. Every “failure” should be preceived as just another step towards… successful performance.
The adptation to the new level of perfromance… gradually and streadily becoming familiar with the unfamiliar and comfortable with the uncomfortable.
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I believe sales, the simple conversation skill
of enrolling and committing someone to purchase,
is invaluable.
It’s turned my life around, and I’m probably
not even that good at it.
At best, I’m hardworking, slightly charismatic, and care about people, and at worst, I just have great help with subs and fell into an extraordinary situation.
That said, I attribute True Sell with supplementary wealth subs to have turned my financial life around faster than anything I could think of.
I would love to see a True Sell upgrade/True Sell Black with wealth, role/job, client and lead manifestation as part of it, tailored or adaptable from short to long sales cycles in one-to-one or one -to group situations. That’s it.
It’s all about earning as much income, or income in perpetuity, as fast as possible through sales and the indomitable mindset to do so continually.
Separately, a True Sell version oriented around marketing, online sales, etc. Social situations would be great , but my sense is EOG and other subs already cover that.
Clean-One-Sell
Edit:
This is a brilliant point
I work in several fields related to sells
- selling investors and institutions to invest capital -1 week-5+ year sale
- Assessing entrepreneurs and executives who want capital -1-3 month decision unless the company goes on a watch list
- A short cycle for a service-related product
They are all very different sales
- Trust relationship or credibility from other LPs and track record in performance and firm operations means more than anything
- Executive capacity, innovation, leadership, unyielding vision of service, and company capacity ability to communicate differentiation both story and on the current and projected balance sheets. Demonstrating a clear path to success and the character and team to get there. The early the company the more the CEO/Founder and plan will matter more than what might not be built
- Likeability, demonstrating company credibility, and creating a value proposition framed alongside someone’s intention in juxtaposition to their current pain create the movement of a sale.
All very different, however -elements are the same in all of them
verbal fluency,
conviction in service
everything in The Will to Power
ability to read and address people specifically
confidence and internal strength
a mix of creating respect and openness/receptivity in people.
not over speaking, but also speaking actually to enroll and open people up
demonstration of value
the correct gauge of relateability with driving the ball forward
expectation of sale and optimism mixed with detachment
Orientation around standing strong for people while being loving.
Persistence and not giving up on the larger picture
a desire to win and succeed balanced with humaneness and care.
faith everywhere it counts- oneself, others
emotional mastery and resilience
letting go of rejection
etc
these are relatively universal in different sales
or a sub that gives one the ability to shift in what and how they sell sell anything- which true sell already does to a great degree
The skills may be different in different kinds of sales but the quality and orientation of a person to achieve mastery in those different areas seems more adaptable.
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Man how did saint ever get so smart,its like he knows everything about everything
He must be test-driving the new Chimney Sweeper X 
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I know a lot about the topics that I know a lot about. When someone’s talking about a topic that I know little about, I usually say absolutely nothing, even in person. If a person is talking about something that interests me but I have little knowledge about, I’ll just listen and refuse to opine.
If it’s a topic I know a lot about, I talk a lot about it. This gives the illusion of “heightened smarts,” but it’s really more of a focused mastery type of things. On the topic of sales, I defer to the experts and their ideas here, then I do research to understand what they’re talking about. Just studying a lot of stuff.
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Yes, sir! Do it, please!
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Know something we don’t? 
Well that was referencing New EoG 2025 having ZPU elements in it. I didn’t know if you would call it Pre ZPU, Prototype ZPU etc but saint stated somewhere recently it’s neither. I was assuming both will be early ZPU for lack of a better term
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Genius
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Yes you do.
Sorry to be so blunt.
Take everything I’m saying as a thought experiment:
But allow me to propose an alternative to you.
Don’t think of High Status as rich, wealthy, patriarchal stereotype-type stuff…
How would you feel about being surrounded by the people that YOU consider the coolest, most accomplished, doing the most important work on the planet, the people that could help you the most, the people that you resonate the most.
Now, imagine that THEY’RE who you could be surrounded by if you’re surrounded by High Status people.
If status to you means great family-men-and-women, or people in successful relationships, or people who have just figured out this thing called “happiness,” or other reiki practioners, or just really really nice people that exude and radiate warthm, happiness, compassion, or whatever is important to you… imagine being surrounded by them.
Whatever your vision and definition and status is.
Because if you have to be surrounded by wealthy greedy executive corporate types, as you seem them, and that doesn’t align with you, that sounds crap. They’re not your idea of high status.
I would love to be surrounded by high status people. But to me, that’s successful therapists that I don’t even talk about their work with, they’re just my friends. And it’s people who have passionate writing projects, and it’s people who run digital minimalism businesses…
Man… if you have a digital minimalism business, and you earn $4000/mo, and you have 6000 followers across all platforms, you’re very low status in the “traditional” sense but wow, you’re a god to me.
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sc droppin dem big bangers bussin dem stacks wide open sheeesh.