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#85

I would counter that the sub didn’t trigger people when it came to fame, it was the copy.

It was “precon”. A form of recon that comes from thinking about how the script will effect your life.

The no fame version was released for people who bought it because some people really rejected the idea in the forums.

But when you look at the journals of people who ran it for a cycle or more you will see that they weren’t triggered by the fame.

Instead most came to an new understanding and appreciation of fame. I don’t remember reading a single negative journal about the fame effect.

Having used it as well, I can tell you the fame effects are real but not triggering. And each time it felt natural and it wasn’t until later reflection that I realized it was the sub.

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#86

I suppose it would be great if the new Executive contained scripting related to the Machine: Rest module and the one about improving sleep quality, and something related to keeping healthy habits like exercising and proper diet as the machine needs to be maintained right. A bit of Sanguine could help, too. To help eliminate distracting thoughts etc.

:snowflake:

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#88

For DD:TS it would be the Empath module and all those related to connecting with people. But I guess, that’s the most obvious. There was also something about Primal Romance that made people (both sexes) open up to me… My vibe, I guess.

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#89

I can understand why something like that could come about.

I myself was intrigued by ASBR and even grabbed a copy and ran a few loops. But the fame aspect I stuck away from for reasons which were more misunderstanding than anything.

Nowadays, when we think of fame, thanks to Hollywood and world leaders having “fame”, people tend to think of fame as being “worldwide fame”, with which comes a whole series of potential and likely negative consequences. People trying to control or compromise people who have a large amount of influence. Tall poppy syndrome (especially here in my country), peoples willingness to bring frivolous charges against people who are famous just for the attention or the money. I can see why people would want to separate financial well being and fame.

Even country-wide fame can come with problems, but of course running something with ASBR with E: WTP or subs with protective auras such as RoM should help to counter most of the problems fame brings,

I’m glad there is a no fame version though. Makes logical sense.

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#90

Thanks for sharing. These are very valuable insights.

#91

+

I see you for what you are and I absolutely love what I see.

Sorry for the ooftopic. Couldn’t help myself.

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#92

Happen to me every time I run it

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#93

Bro is getting commission from True Social and The Executive :rofl:

You convinced me :100:

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#94

Well I am the last active founding club member, as far as i know, aside from the creators :cowboy_hat_face:. JK I am no different than any other member. I suppose it makes me prehistoric

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#95

I believe paragon will be the first after seductress,as both spartans and paragon sleep have paragon scripting in them

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#96

Let’s go with Jurassic

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#97

I have been using DD for over a year now and here are some things I would like to enhance or change.

Ideas for daredevil:

  • Influence people by turning the no into a yes if beneficial to both parties.
  • Like and appreciate people. Also, have a genuine interest in people.
  • Have warmth when dealing with people and presence by making them feel appreciated and valued.
  • Remove social anxiety.
  • More charismatic voice and a better intonation of voice.
  • Charismatic body language.

I do like to socialize a bit more, but I don’t feel I influencing people much. I like the adventurer mindset the script gives you, where you get out of your comfort zone and try riskier things. Once I change to a different title the social anxiety comes back. I could care less for anything romantic for this title, since I feel we attract people with a similar mindset and titles get more bloated for me and I notice the results aren’t as quick or prominent. One more thing, I notice that having a more loving voice when speaking gives me better results and people love my voice.

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#98

Jurassic James

:t_rex:

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#99

Unpopular opinion:

At the moment True Social is almost a redundant title because social skills automatically should be part of almost every other title already.

Romance titles → need to have social skills in them
Wealth and Business titles → need to have social skills in them
Intelligence titles → need to have social skills in them

So what would the point of have a separate additional social skills title?

Being social just for the sake of being social makes no sense to me.
Being social is just a means to an end and requires to have end goal, for example:

  • Making friends
  • Getting laid
  • Selling things
  • Expanding business
  • etc.

For all of these end goals, we already have a ton of titles.
And in my opinion almost all of these titles already require to have and should already have inside of them the social skills aspects.

Any end goal where you are doing something related to other people, also automatically requires social skills, doesn’t it?

I am sharing my opinion because of what happened with Daredevil when it was upgraded:

I have stopped using Daredevil because I felt it wasn’t unique enough as all it’s features like story telling, speech skills, social skills, making life an adventure were already covered in many of the main alpha titles, therefore I didn’t want to sacrifice a valuable listening slot in my stack.
Genesis, Primal, WB, ASBR, KHAN easily replace Daredevil, but add much more to the mix than just what Daredevil has to offer.
I have looked at my offline journal and my notes related to Daredevil and all the benefits that it provided I already get from just running ASBR or Primal alone.

Just sharing my personal perception here, as I feel like the True Social upgrade would need to be something really outstanding and with unique major benefits, otherwise it will feel like it is already covered by other existing titles (and end like Daredevil, i.e. a very very niche title)…

Or maybe some titles just shouldn’t be upgraded?
And just upgrade the social skills scripting in all the other titles instead?

Or merged into other titles?

Why am I even sharing this? I think a part of me doesn’t want Saint and Fire to be working on redundant titles. Better gimme an original Wanted upgrade or a RICH upgrade please.

Or maybe Daredevil and True Social are simply very niche titles and for special stacks only and that is why to me personally they appear redundant?

The reason why I am approaching titles with the question “is this title mostly redundant for me?”, is because we only have 3 slots in the official ZP listening guidelines.

My current stack is 11 titles and I still struggle to break it down to fewer titles.
In the past my approach was “I want all the good things. Which titles can be removed in order to shorted the stack?”
Then I end up with 10 to 15 titles.
My current approach is “What are my goals? And which titles fit perfectly in order to reach these goals?”
Then I still end up with 11 titles.
Does this mean I have too many goals?
And want too many things all at once?

Anyways, just sharing my subjective perspective here.
Maybe there are things about Daredevil and True Social that I don’t see yet?
Saint and Fire will know better since they have the sales numbers for how well which title sells.

Or maybe merge True Social with Inner Circle into one title?

Or merge True Social with Inner Circle with Daredevil into one title?

Merging these would make sense to me, since social skills, networking and storytelling all go hand in hand.

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#100

Instead of True Social, I would very much love to have a title fully focussed on social media success and fame :pray:

  • Renaissance Man: Ultimate Influencer X
  • Renaissance Man: Social Media
  • Stark: Fame
  • True Social: Fame

Something like that.

We have Renaissance Man for writers, for musicians, for singers and for general artists. Now we need one for social media please :slight_smile:

But not just social media for self-expression, but social media for fame and wealth building. Thank you for considering this.

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#101

I do like this idea so for example if i am in meeting and speak i would a group bubble connection with everyone in the meeting if that make sense.

#102

Great feed back on long-term use of DD

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#103

Great opinion on the benefit and experience with those titles and yes some good points that other titles do have the social scripting aspects that show through in social environments

#104

True social should be the bromance (or sis mance) title tbh.

A mix between inner circle and you are not alone q module.

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#105

I haven’t tryed Daredevil or any social sub in probably two years, but when I tryed true social as a supercharger I enjoyed it as some kind of booster that makes you enjoy being social.

No skills, no “learning curve for social skills”, pure aura, manifeststion and mood.

Is this still relevant or are the current social titles having a similar effect?