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Already have a custom with eog stg1,2,limitless and emperor black

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sounds very healthy.

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It feels wonderful to hear this. I’ll get the countdown started in…

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If I’m imagining these accurately, I might actually be even more excited for the Revelation of Wealth.

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My suggestion was simply to stay in line with the title Monarch.
Monos means One, Archos means leader.
So Monarch means simply that there is One Leader.
Matriarch means that a mother (female) is the one Leading, in contrast to a Patriarch l, where a father (male) is the one leading.

If you want to go another route, like Empress, I’m total ok with that (not that it would matter anyways :joy:).

My suggestion was just to replace the asexual Monarch with the female Matriarch.

RoW gets announced.

My first reaction “Oh no, another separate title on the same topic :worried: . That hopefully be something completely unique because the existing wealth titles are already all way too similar.”

Is the Revelation of Wealth scripting going to be included inside the new EoG?

I am asking because EoG is supposed to be “the ultimate” wealth title, so I would assume that running EoG will provide me with all the best wealth scripting and being a complete wealth title where I then do not need to run anything else wealth-wise?

I personally do not like the idea of RoW being a separate title and would prefer that this scripting is simply added to all wealth titles automatically.
I don’t know what RoW is actually going to include, but it sounds like should simply be part of EoG Stages 1 and 2…?

My hopes are that EoG will be so complete that I don’t need to additionally run G:M, RICH, HoM, N-RICH and RoW or anything similar anymore…

Because otherwise there seem to be more and more wealth titles, all of which are so similar, that it is unclear to me how they are actually different? I am referencing to this still open question of mine:

There is a lot of confusion for me with regards to all those wealth titles. They mostly do all sound the same from their sales copy and seem all to work a little bit on everything and are not really focussed at all.
It would make much more sense from my point of view to have wealth titles that are actually specialized:

1 title for Investing
1 title for Job and Career (incl. sales)
1 title for Business
1 title for General Wealth or a Complete Wealth title that covers all
Etc.

At the moment my perception of the difference between the wealth titles is as following:

RICH = short version of EoG
EoG = everything wealth
RICH Crypto = for crypto trading
HoM = business version of EoG and RICH
N-RICH = modified HoM for disruptive businesses
G:M = weak version of EoG or RICH
ASBR = EoG combined with being smart, charismatic and famous

I am completely confused as it is never clear what wealth title to run for what, since they seem to all have a 90% overlap with each other… :confused:

The biggest problem for me with building my stacks is that it is never really clear from the “differences/similarities” descriptions of the titles with regards how they are actually different. Asking AI doesn’t help either, these wealth titles still have kind of 90% overlaps.

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Must be HOM

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I had a feeling you would, lol. It fits more with my journey as well. My 2025 stack is going to be RoW + Chosen: The Way of Nature, and something to assist with my Qigong practice.

Speaking of which, I am very pleased to announce that @Fire has earned his certification to teach various forms of Qigong and I am proud to say that I became his first student. While the local individual I was training with was knowledgeable, @Fire lives and breathes this, possessing a remarkable amount of knowledge that he tends to downplay in his desires to remain humble.

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This is starting to be just a you problem at this point lol. Very clear distinctions on all of the wealth titles.

Same objective, different routes on how to get there. It’s not like you need to run the all

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How about ‘Tzarina’

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It is not clear to me at all.
The titles can be applied to almost all possible routes.
So even if I know my route, I would not know which title to run for it best.

For example, if my route is “Investing”.
I could run ASBR, HoM, EoG, RICH, RICH Crypto or G:M.
All of these 6 titles fit the route.

Or if my route is “Manifest Financial Mentors Who Help Me”.
I could run HoM, RICH, RICH Crypto, EoG, G:M, N-RICH or IC.
All of these 7 titles fit the route.

Just knowing which route you want to take, in no way makes it obvious which title to pick best for it.

Very interesting. Really hope that @fire will get some time to write more in his journal - also about the insights gained from his Qi Gong journey.

I think it’s time for Fire to make a sub which would fully develop our microcosmic orbit in… 1 loop🤯

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@CosmicRaver You need a sub to learn micro cosmic orbit? :rofl:… you jester :sweat_smile::rofl:

I think it’s a matter of overcomplicating things. Just because a title that may have scripting that is beneficial for something else, does not make it “the best” choice. Stark Black, is not a title meant for investing what so ever.

HoM is, but from the copy it is more geared towards business investments and relationship building. What makes it the optimal choice, is if your goal is to build a family legacy of wealth.

R.I.C.H, is pure short term wealth manifestation. It works best for people that have open pathways, business owners, active investors, sales people.

R.I.C.H crypto- is literally specifically for investing in crypto.

Genesis Mogul, is primarily for people beginning there wealth journey, and finding and building the income streams so that you can capitalize on it with something like R.I.C.H.

If your route is “Manifest finanncial mentors who help me” , that shouldn’t even be your route. You should probably make a decision on how you specifically want to generate your wealth based on something you would actually enjoy doing, and then find a specific mentor who has made that money that way before.

Ecstacy of Gold, is going to be the most elaborate and extensive title, and would primarily be used by people who want to build large amounts of wealth, and that is there primary, #1 goal and focus. If it is not, and you just want to make a bit more money to feel financially secure, thenn there is better options.

Like honestly the problem is your ability to read and decipher information, not a lack of clarity on the titles and their purposes as it doesn’t seem anyone else has this same issue lol.

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RICH= Fast/short term wealth manifestations. Capitalizing on existing pathways.
EOG= Most in depth, huge wealth goals, current primary focus in life.
HOM= Build wealth through relationships.
Crypto= Self explanatory
NRICH= Wealth through market disruption, best for entrepreneurs.
GM= Beginner wealth journey, building pathways, improving career position.
ASBR= Wealth through innovation.

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And how exactly are you going to account for the diverse personalities from across the globe? For example, I have no concerns with “legacy,” nor do I have the desire to become a billionaire. Not in the slightest. I am not interested in being defined by money or wealth. So why would I run HoM or any scripting in HoM?

I’m not interested in romance or seduction scripting, so the alpha wealth titles are out. EoG is pure wealth, no romance at all. It would fit me much more than Genesis: Mogul.

You are omitting major parts of the copy and non-wealth related features and only focusing on wealth overlap. There is no such thing as “one sub to cover all,” it is simply impossible. Your way of earning wealth and my approach to wealth is going to completely different, and some scripting simply will not jive with my psyche – I’ll just stonewall or reject or ignore it.

Others will do the same thing. So here’s the accurate description of those titles, as indicated by the copy:

  • R.I.C.H. – Focuses on manifestation through already established channels.
  • R.I.C.H. – See above, but focused on cryptocurrency.
  • EoG: Extremely in-depth focus on business and career, goes extremely deep into topics. Not an ounce of romance scripting. This is about making money in a way that infuses joy into your life, which in turn, sparks a cycle where you work harder because it brings joy.
  • HoM – Not, not just the business version of this. There’s a huge focus on legacy wealth, which includes legacy money management, very long term investing (again, not my style – I’m more of a day trader type if I DID trade), etc.
  • Nouveau RICH - No. Not a modified version of HoM for disruptive business. It is a brand new, script completely written for disruptive businesses.
  • G:M: No, not a weak version of EoG and RICH. This one can be used by both entrepreneurs and those who want to dominate in their career. Also includes a bit of romance scripting and other things. Is a “minor alpha.”
  • ASBR: No. Not EoG combined with anything. Written from scratch, this title is for those who want to create certain types of products – ones that bring a level of fame from altering the social landscape. Uber. AIRBNB. Facebook.
  • RoW: This is damn near an esoteric look at money, wealth and the hidden aspects of the concept of “wealth” that most cannot (and some will not) see. It is a highly specialized product that many people will not want to run. As with the rest of the Unfolding Series, these can help you DRASTICALLY change your understanding of what exactly wealth is.

So, the only thing that “overlaps” is the fact that there are multiple wealth titles. There will never be a “one size fits all” title at Subliminal Club. The infinite nature of diversity itself requires archetypes and different pathways.

Choose one based on your personality and roll with it.

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Let’s not go this far. I think the issue is… well, @JCDenton , I don’t think you actually know WHAT you want in terms with wealth and what path to take. So, if we did make a “one size fits all,” that problem would be solved for you. But, we cannot do that. All we can do is create different tools for different situations and different peoples.

And that’s what the forum is for. All you have to say is: “I am looking to do [x] with my career and wealth goals (or entrepreneur goals) and I also want to have [z] kind of dating life, and maybe have some really fun adventures.”

If x = I just want to excel in my current 9-5 and get some raises.
If z = I’m just trying to get laid, not really interested in dating, and I already have consensual sexual partners.

And I’d say: Try Genesis: Mogul + Primal Nights + Daredevil.

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not learn bro, develop it fully so there is no energetic leakage

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@CosmicRaver You need strong lower dantien and grounding then. Small heaven (micro cosmic orbit) is good to keep energy circulating without it messing you up. Why engage in energy practice if you dont have good foundation? You are padwan level, best to stay with zen and cultivate more self awareness