Isn’t Emperor Fitness outdated now since we have LOTS and Spartan Apex ?. I believe it might be phased out though i could be wrong.
I have a feeling it’s being developed on a similar timeline with EOG since they hinted at some wealth scripting in the Seductress upgrade.
I would kill for new EB. lol
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Me and you both,EB is better than sb for money and its not even updated with nse yet lol
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Why would that be phased out? we had them at the same time before hand… emperor fitness is a deep dive into fitness a multistage badass rockstar sub compared to spartan that is a single stage workout/mindset sub… thats like saying quantum limitless is pointless because we have limitless
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We deserve to get it before the other releases!!! 
Sure, wealth is for everyone, but…. Us ladies haven’t had any upgrades to our precious women’s titles…. Yet……. 
I wanna lock in seductress upgrade for my 2025 stack… not 2026. 
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Really? Care to share your experience?!
I havnt used yet but i have it in a custom,i asked support and that is what they said
From support when i asked sb vs eb
“Which is Better for Money? – Both can help with financial goals, but Emperor Black tends to be more focused on wealth-building, discipline, and strategic thinking. Stacking Emperor Black with Ecstasy of Gold (EOG) would be a strong combo for long-term financial success and resilience, with EOG enhancing opportunities and financial growth potential.”
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Can we stack RoW and EoG from the beginning? Or should we run a cycle of RoW solo before adding EoG?
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It’s still next after EoG and Revelation of Wealth. It’s worth the wait. We also have formulated plans for a potential Symmetry: Seductress Dark for later this year. Got some other goodies for the ladies as well. There’s also the long awaited Monarch as well as an upgrade to Ascension for Women, which will get rebranded into a Genesis title.
There’s also another title for women that we haven’t announced yet, something I know the ladies will absolutely love.
We know that we’ve slacked on products that are designed and developed for women first. The main issue is that we didn’t feel comfortable as two men writing for women, but we’ve largely overcome that roadblock and decided that we just had to create the titles and refine them as we always have.
So, in 2025 — ladies, you will get the titles you’ve been waiting for, fresh with all the bells and whistles from all the latest titles.
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what was their comment on SB?
@SaintSovereign has spoken about SB as a major wealth title in terms of scope of it’s impact.
NR and SB are the go-to wealth titles until others are updated was my understanding
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Heres the full answer.
Hello,
Thanks for reaching out to us. Here’s a quick breakdown to help illustrate the differences between Stark Black and Emperor Black, along with some example archetypes:
Stark Black – This title is geared toward creativity, innovation, and magnetic charisma. It’s ideal for someone who wants to excel in creative or high-visibility fields, combining intelligence, adaptability, and social influence. Think of someone like Elon Musk or Tony Stark (Iron Man): both visionary, socially engaging, and able to use their creative genius to make waves. Stark Black’s focus on fame and socializing supports a more public-facing path, ideal for building influence and connections.
Emperor Black – Emperor Black embodies inner strength, resilience, and a powerful, grounded leadership presence. This title is for those who want to lead with authority, influence others from a position of power, and maintain strong personal boundaries. Archetypes here might include Batman or even Andrew Tate—figures who rely on discipline, confidence, and inner resilience to achieve their goals. Emperor Black is focused more on personal power and unwavering self-assurance rather than external charisma.
Which is Better for Money? – Both can help with financial goals, but Emperor Black tends to be more focused on wealth-building, discipline, and strategic thinking. Stacking Emperor Black with Ecstasy of Gold (EOG) would be a strong combo for long-term financial success and resilience, with EOG enhancing opportunities and financial growth potential.
I hope this gives you a good sense of what each title offers! Let us know if you’d like to dive deeper into either one. We’re happy to help anytime!
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You can stack ‘em. Anything you run with The Revelation of Wealth will deepen and enhance that title’s wealth scripting.
But there’s benefit in soloing RoW, as it can help you develop and understand your wealth beliefs, building a stronger foundation that EoG can build upon.
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What about Ascension for men? I know it’s not the sexiest title to choose in your battle, but can we expect that as well?
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Damn, now I want a gf, or 3, OK a harem but only because I want them to listen to the subs… on the yacht, in Morocco, then give feedback on the forum, from their results with the subs…
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So run RoW first?
Revelations of Wealth sounds like a full fledged New Wealth Experience with the addition to Revelation type scripting supporting the NWE.
I doubt it is so, but RoW isn’t the new RICH, right?
This gives me the idea of a new module called MDFY: Revelations. It would imbue some revelations to every custom, like how Singularity is a mixture of both Revelations and classics
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Love it!
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Since no one has supplied a possible release I’m thinking it’s going to be a surprise