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[WorldOvertaker]

yes

5char

[James]

I always looked at Stark Black as something specifically tech related. I just read parts of the sales page and it isn’t at all. Thankfully I have now had my opinion changed.

Stark Black is for anyone and everyone

[WorldOvertaker]

I’ve experienced enough to keep an open mind

[Fractal_Explorer]

One person’s delusional is another’s success. Nothing wrong with aiming high.

[Kingarthur256]

I am in monk mode so I will not vote​:relieved:
WB bloom talking

[Kingarthur256]

Main Disc. Thread -- Emperor Black: Twilight of the Gods (Q Module available!)

Sorry if it’s not the best way to come across, I’m transitioning from WB to EB. If one learns who they really are and what they want, what is the need for Genesis and why is the need to run another title if EB helpled you: Heal, Develop dominance, status, and focus, action on goals, Knowing what you want? What new thing does Genesis offer? Another problem I see with running almost ANY title after EB is that titles tend to “change” one’s beleifs. Especially ones who have auras. Auras is abou…

Guys I would appreciate your comment on my post in EB thread.

[AlexanderGraves]

@SaintSovereign

That’s why when people start going on about the supernatural, our response is the same: the supernatural, cannot be measured by any reasonable, standard means and as such, we couldn’t possibly determine how to include such things in a script because the concept makes no sense.

So, while we all have our theories, how the body shifts due to physical shifting largely remains a mystery. However, what we can say is that an individual who focuses their mind on physical shifting — even without subs, some use vision boards and the such — seems to get results.

I think it’s more of a measure that we haven’t yet fully ACCEPTED how powerful our mind/soul actually is and what it is capable of.
Remember, consciousness is eternal and it just sits in our body, driving it. The body is a vessel we use on this Earth, it’s not who we are, thus we are entirely capable of morphing it through the subconscious.
The subconscious keeps it alive all day with millions of operations. If it controls muscle growth due you working out, why would it not be able to change everything else as well?

@SaintSovereign

That, I do not know. We’ve seen some remarkable transformations posted here, but I won’t sit here and try to BS you and pretend that going from a 5 to 10 is absolutely possible. I think we should all set reasonable expectations and then become pleasantly surprised if it exceeds those expectations.

We don’t have a lot of information – if any – on anyone running something like LotS for a very long period of time, like a year. It is possible, however, that running it that long could indeed generate incredible results.

One key thing imo is to put oneself in an environment and daily occupation that supports it. I have a pretty graphic example.
You guys know I was addicted to porn for many years, and oftentimes I would see a girl that has been doing hot pics before, but after her occupation on OF for years, her body actually morphed. Wider hips, ass, legs, etc. Because THIS IS what her mental focus was on all day, every day for years.
To be sexier, hotter, thus - even without subs - she told her subconscious to morph her body (and this wasnt just young girls that still “grow up” happens to many of them).

My wife, for example, ran Helen of Troy a lot, but didnt get the results she wanted, because her mind was on other things all the time. Household, work, kids.
Then a while ago, when things settled down a bit for her and she put more time into the sexiness, I could tell changes pretty fast in her body and movements.

Don’t underestimate the conscious mind and the physical. Put yourself in the place that helps your goals. Set your mindset towards a goal and visualize it. This accelerates it tremendously. I think this is what the guys mean with “taking action.”

And I think this is pretty much how the NSE works. It creates situations that REAFFIRM your goals and how they can be possible. Thus the conscious mind also starts to believe.

[Sub.Zero]

@SaintSovereign

what we can say is that an individual who focuses their mind on physical shifting — even without subs, some use vision boards and the such — seems to get results.

Not only physical changes but “psychological” as well. When I bare in my mind and focus, only a bit and from time to time, on a certain characteristic I want to emanate, my subconscious guides me towards the right mental and behavioral patterns that lead directly to the display of that characteristic. I’m not sure if it works for characteristics that are NOT aligned with the scripting, however. I don’t care to try as they’re not my focus. Moreover, it looks like there must be an intent and a deep feeling behind the focus on the characteristic you want to emanate.

[TheRock]

@SaintSovereign

Primal Romance (Saint):
The long requested and long awaited romance and seduction title suitable for both those who are in monogamous relationships, and those still playing the field. With a heavy focus on a romantic style of “seduction,” Primal Romance will help you respark the fire in your current relationships, or sweep a potential romantic partner off their feet.

That sounds fantastic! As I was reading it, I realized this is precisely the kind of subliminal I’ve been missing—something perfect for rekindling the spark in my marriage. What married man wouldn’t want to feel the fire and butterflies of a new romance again? Being able to bring those feelings back with my wife will be incredible. This will definitely make it into my stack!

@SaintSovereign

Emperor Daddy (Fire):
Created with features geared toward those age 40+ (but can be used by anyone), a new, innovative and mind-blowing version of EMPEROR designed to help you create a refined, regal persona, but with the wealth, inner resilience and dominance focus that the EMPEROR series is known for… (and more, but we’re not spoiling everything yet).

As a big fan of Emperor (I call it my “forever” title), this definitely adds an intriguing twist. Being one of those who’ve crossed into their 40s, I’m particularly curious to see how this version plays out and can’t wait to read the description of it.

[Dreamevile]

Would EmpD would be more patient, nicer, or more imperturbable compared to the other alpha subs? Other alpha subs (Except Stark or PS, Primal), would make me domineering, hot tempered and pretty merciless making me unable to run them as i guess i already have too much of these traits.

Hoping EmpD would be milder in that regard, as a more mature alpha would be.

[lovage]

How about Khan or Emperor Black? I loved Khan for the ability to never ever get perturbed by anything and I’d love a similar approach in EmpD.

[RockyHandsome]

@AlexanderGraves

To be sexier, hotter, thus - even without subs - she told her subconscious to morph her body (and this wasnt just young girls that still “grow up” happens to many of them).

Was this done using vision boards ?

[AlexanderGraves]

@RockyHandsome

Was this done using vision boards ?

No, just thought. She has no such thing. Literally just being exposed to the need via her mind (she wanted to be sexier) and, I mean, this is literally our society rn for women, so being in “the zone” wasnt hard here

[RockyHandsome]

@AlexanderGraves you seem very knowledgeable in this area. What techniques have yyou used to unlock the power of the SC.

@James listen to to him.

[emperor_obewan]

@SaintSovereign

So, while we all have our theories, how the body shifts due to physical shifting largely remains a mystery. However, what we can say is that an individual who focuses their mind on physical shifting — even without subs, some use vision boards and the such — seems to get results.

As the great and wise Yoghurt once said… never underestimate the power of the Schwartz!

[AlexanderGraves]

@RockyHandsome

@AlexanderGraves you seem very knowledgeable in this area. What techniques have yyou used to unlock the power of the SC.

That depends on your stage with us. Like, for how long have you been running etc.

When you’re new, I would start with a simple sub and ONLY that sub (even though its tough, I know) and learn the interaction with your subconscious:

• How do you react to it? How does recon feel?
• Finding the perfect amount of listening time and space between subs (I learned 7 min of any sub right from the beginning with 3 days in between is best for me)
• Discover your form of results, by which I mean, whenever I run I sub I tend to get the info presented to me by a random video in my feed on Youtube. Because I am a lot on Youtube. Then this video pops up and I’m like wtf is this, I click on it, watch it, and realize this was manifested to give me a deeper insight into what the sub is trying.
• Accept that some subs are just not for you. At this point I own almost all of the subs in the catalog, and a bunch of customs (even though nobody matches @Invictus ).
  For example super hard alpha subs don’t play nice with me. Here you have to discern, is it just recon because you have a childhood of being bullied for example, or is just not who you are on a soul-level. You are just generally a more backstage person?
• The biggy of course, is what I mentioned above: define action. Specifically, put yourself in situations that support the goals of the sub. You want to become rich and famous but you sit at home, jerking it to porn and playing videogames (without streaming them) but expect the subs to magically manifest money. Remember, the subs only UNRAVEL what is already with in you. You are unlimited potential, they give you guidance and help to heal, but you need to take action towards the goal of it.
• Action is basically conscious guidance. Most subs have a ton of goals, especially like Emperor. This can tear your subconscious in many directions. Try to narrow down your subs as much as possible on a goal for the next months. Once you gained some traction there, you can branch out. That is, if you want to have results fast. You can also take my approach: Learn to listen to your subconscious and be guided to whatever it deems necessary right now. I rarely keep my subs for longer than a few months. Then I work on something else. Come back to old issues, test something else. DISCLAIMER: This is NOT the fastest way, but the one that feels right to me. Surrendering to life (or God, in my case).
• Happiness plays a big role. I noticed that my results are MUCH better when I am in a generally good mood on a daily basis. Mostly. If you are dealing with emotional trauma, a breakup, etc, its probably better to take a week off of the subs and process your emotions.
  @Invictus and I back in the days, even figured out a custom specifically designed to maximize sub results. The idea being in general awe and love for life.

Here it is if you're interested

1. Alchemist ST4
2. LBFH
3. Blue Skies
4. The Wonder
5. Joie de Vivre
6. Starfilled Night
7. Avatar
8. Gratitude Embodiment
9. Empath
10. All-Seeing
11. Awakened Perception
12. Emotions Unfettered
13. Everpresent
14. The Architect
15. The Flow
16. Harmonic Singularity
17. Light of Humility
18. Dream Traveler
19. Inner Voice
20. Khronos Key

Dont run it before you ran Alchemist Solo to ST4 though and generally, this is NOT a beginner custom because it can induce A LOT of recon, depending on your current state.

That’s off the top of my head rn

[RockyHandsome]

Nice @AlexanderGraves i can see that you have done your homework and it also explains why you are so successful. @James please see what my friend Alex has to say lots of gems here.

[James]

@RockyHandsome you keep tagging me on posts and I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about.

[RockyHandsome]

Please read the post by Alex. He is one of the gurus here he is a true friend and we talk often.

[Judoka]

I wish there werent so many subliminals so we wouldnt have to overthink if we chose the right subliminal or not and switch to another one. Same for modules