And that works.
You’re not slamming me down or making me feel inadequate. You’re going into detail on something. You made me want to google stuff to read more about it and educate myself.
Maybe it’s because we were making a similar point. Either way, thank you.
Why would this be odd.
A womans SMV is determined by her beauty and her beauty alone. There have been numerous tests over the years that men are able to fairly accurately predict how other men will rate women. Therefore men rating women on a 1-10 scale is perfectly reasonable.
Mens SMV is determined by a wide range of attributes only one of which is what they look like, hence a 1-10 scale would not work.
Also why would men number themselves when 97% of men are heterosexual?
No such thing.
I think the big flaw in men grading women is that one person’s 6 is another person’s 9. It’s a highly subjective scale because it is based mostly on physical appearance.
However, men still use it a lot. Less so when they get older, but still.
Women also at times grade men this way, although in many cases their grading system is more accurate because they tend to look for certain qualities rather than physical appearance. So one woman’s 8 would more likely also be another woman’s 8. Then again, some booty calls and one night stands initiated by women are based purely on physical appearance.
Reminds me of those YT videos where they ask women what the most attractive body part of a man is.
Men don’t number themselves, although like most people of either sex they will always be able to point out others that are more attractive than they are. So men are distinctly aware of what they consider keeps them from being a 10. Usually it’s muscles or asymmetry.
This too is subjective. You can find videos of a guy asking random women to point out another women that she thinks is more attractive than her and she’ll happily do so. As the viewer, you rarely find the other women any more or less attractive.
As far as alpha women go, that’s a tough one. Women in groups most definitely have a leader, a queen bee. But which quality causes her to assume that mantle is not entirely clear to me.
I do believe that a woman that becomes an alpha male is not necessarily an alpha female. The qualities necessary for either are different.
It’s an interesting thing to think about. What qualities define an alpha female?
this alpha business smells like a cultural narrative masquerading as a scientific one.
With the trappings removed, it seems to be just a mixture of social confidence and generalized self-esteem.
The cultural trappings seem to enter the discussion in the form of various narratives about the grand significance of possessing social confidence and self-esteem and the various fruits and rewards to which it rightfully entitles one.
Needing to hold onto a Story about Alphas strikes me personally as not particularly alpha. Feels whiny.
Alpha to me is High Value Man
What is high value ?
Should I sit down with beta-wolves and tell them to suck it up and deal with their self-esteem issues then?
Or does it not count for the animal world? I would argue that although we might make a bigger thing out of it than it actually is, there is still a primal component at work here somewhere.
Possibly because it should be a descriptor, not something that we spend all our time on trying to become? We’re setting the wrong priorities? Giving the concept of “being alpha” more attention and power than it should have?
Would this be the same for everybody? Can I ask two different people and they will have different definitions of high value and thus alpha? Or are there qualities that we all agree on without them needing to be said?
Basically continued self improvement and striving to be the best all the time. That can be speaking better or learning a new skill etc. Men are providers. We are judged by what we provide. To provide you first need to be the best version of yourself. That will be different for everyone but the common objective will be self improvement and constantly improving.
99% of successful men have no interest in them because the polarity is off.
Alpha women on average have beta men.
Nature always keeps the balance.
Apparently, the concept of alpha wolves (which was actually the original inspiration for this concept) has been debunked. It’s most accurate for describing wolves in captivity, not in their natural habitats.
I’d wager that a similar principle may apply in human beings.
Sigh.
I’d agree.
I guess that depends on the definition of alpha women.
Are they, like alpha males, also nontoxic, strong and confident? Is that not desirable?
Or is it about the need to lead, dominate and control?
Not me, but everyone is different.
I’m not saying I don’t like chemistry, but I do like hot bodies too. Even if they just lay there even that is hot to me.
I disagree.
I pointed out that his example being true was invalid in 99% of cases.
He has to either state why it is actually valid in many more cases or why the validity doesn’t matter. Not only has AlexSQ not done so but no other regular poster or any of the much more numerous lurkers.
There is really no difference between me saying “wrong”, “you are wrong”, “I think you are wrong” or “You are wronger than a wrong thing in wrongistan”. The meaning is the same.
And to quote Keynes, “When the facts change, I change my mind, what do you do”?
Not living in America I don’t particularly follow American politics but I did watch the first Republican debate for the 17 nominees and I didn’t particularly know much about Trump.
I sat up in amasement when Trump replied “Only Rosie O’Donall”.
I didn’t watch the Trump Biden debate as I knew what the election result would be. but Saint really doesn’t want us to talk about that sort of thing so lets hastily move on.
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How do people think.
Most people don’t think unless they are talking about something, and I assume writing about something as well. This includes me as well.
Hence when I get to write something here I get to think about it and try to get it right, it is a way for me to understand and correct my thinking.
Do you know anything about propaganda?
As someone who used to be active in politics I do.
You need an easy to understand message put over in an easy to understand way, you can’t be wishy washy, you have to state exactly what you want to convey (OTOH, you can prevaricate, I have to include this for completeness sake, but I don’t). You actually have to come out and say what you mean because you are not necessarily talking to the person you are having the discussion with, you are actually talking to anyone who is lurking or who will find your message in the future. You don’t know who that will be but that is what you must do.
To sum up I am more than happy to have my thinking improved. If I am wrong fucking well tell me so. But to do so you actually have to use valid logic. you can’t just come up with trite meaningless phrases like “when the pupil is ready the teacher will appear”. Stuff like that is clearly fatuous nonsense.
Lets actually have an honest conversation about stuff because this stuff clearly matters, it has a positive impact on individuals lives.
Some of us happen to believe that we’re a part of something greater, not just a bigger plan but that we’re all extensions of the Creator.
Some of us happen to believe that life is exactly what it is, at face value.
People on either side of this equation (and many in the areas between) would believe the other is delusional for believing the way they day.
Wisdom is letting others believe what they want to rather than attacking from a place of ‘I’m better than you’, which is how you’re coming across @James
Is it only me picking up strange vibes here?
Cool man, whatever floats your boat, I’m not judging. If you’re happy, that’s all that matters in the end.
I was referring to my own beliefs not anyone else’s. People can believe whatever they want. I feel you missed the point and slight sarcasm in my post. It was mocking the fact that someone referred to themselves as God.
I may not agree with what someone chooses to believe but it’s their life not mine.
I’m curious where you get the idea I think I’m better than anyone else.
Not really. You could just say you don’t know
No but spouting off the names of physicists you have studied doesn’t make someone an expert in critical thinking. The fact that you cling to your opinion so forcefully is a huge red flag that reeks of insecurity
What you say doesn’t bother me but it does make me feel a little bit sorry for you because I can only imagine what you’re probably like in person.
#begin levity
Heyo!
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Aahaha, good catch man. No need to say that was not intended.
I agree, we’re drifting into he said she said territory and it has little to do with the topic.