aww thnx fren 
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what subs are you running?
its a secret 
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This is a cool topic and one I’ve thought about for years. I knew a certain user on a certain forum years ago who was my definition of alpha. I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings but he was the most alpha person I’d ever encountered. And I do door to door marketing and have talked with and encountered a LOT of people over the years. Still none compare to this fellow.
HOWEVER, there is I think a difference between what I, personally, think is alpha (which is more accurate to say, what I admire) and what actually is alpha.
I read a pua article once that said the definition of alpha was simply “one who has followers”. I think this is true.
If I think of the “domineering douche”. I know that I, personally, dont want to follow them, and I don’t. Some people (and women perhaps. I couldn’t say since I don’t associate with any) seem to follow them, and if that’s the case, they are technically alphas according to that definition.
But the ultimate “role” of an alpha is to lead the tribe in a way that helps it survive and flourish. Something I cannot see happening with the domineering types.
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I could be wrong, but I think that Alphas don’t get hurt feelings 
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They shouldn’t it’s true but I’ve known some “alphas” that have before.
Why is that, you think?
Are they indestructible or just have strong composure so they just appear so?
A true alpha is unshakable, and their self-confidence doesn’t get affected by what others say or do.
Think of it this way, if my daughter (when she can actually talk, that is… still a while yet) were to say “you’re a poopy head!”, I wouldn’t think “wow, maybe my head really is made of poop… I hate myself now, FML”
Why? Because I know it’s not true, and she’s just (hypothetically) speaking out of anger.
So why is it, that if some random driver calls you a [insert your favorite triggering insult here] just because you accidentally took the parking spot they wanted… why on earth would you believe them??
An alpha wouldn’t… but a non-alpha might get upset, perhaps because on some level… they think it might be true? Because they pin their self confidence on what other people think of them instead of what they think of themselves?
All of the above? Maybe.
All I know for sure is that I’m lacking a true alpha mindset, and if someone calls me a harsh name, I’m probably going to feel bad about it (or, get angry and think nasty thoughts toward that person…) at least for a while. And that’s not good… so I need to fix it.
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I never used the term ‘Alpha’ unironically before coming to this community.
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Not to make excuses for any recent behavior but I am curious how much of what comes out in inappropriate ways and at inappropriate times isn’t just a side effect of repressing oneself out of lifelong trauma or fear. Some people (raises hand) have gone their entire lives including being an adult without having a clue what being or acting like an mentally and emotionally mature person is like. I honestly didn’t have a clue until I ran Dragon Reborn Stage One for an extended period of time and I still have yet to spend prolonged time on stage two. I remember when I first started Dragon Reborn that multiple people advised not to make any solid plans for the future because you will most likely be a very different person if you run Dragon Reborn in its entirety. I feel that way right now and I feel that way every day when I wake up. Should I have completed Dragon Reborn before moving on to something else? That’s a difficult question to answer given how much change occurs and with that the changes in goals and priorities. I can’t say if the confidence I feel right now is from my time with Dragon Reborn or from my current focus on EOG stages one and two and R.I.C.H but I am nowhere near the person I was when Dragon Reborn came out in November of last year. As with anything I have run for any period of time my goal has always had the underlying desire to be able to do my own thing and be left alone.
I had more to say but I lost my train of thought but of ot comes back I will expand on this
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If they get frazzled so easily, that disqualifies them/me from being “Alpha”. I think that on some level, Alphas have an idgaf attitude.
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In my opinion, saying that an alpha is unshakeable, unbreakable, doesn’t give a *** and so on is like saying men are not allowed to ever shed a tear. It’s outdated. Every alpha will have moments during which they are vulnerable, moments when they just need to get away and be alone. Go fishing or hunting or drink beer in their cabin in the woods. Or climb a mountain.
In the above cases, it is as BlackIce states. Their conviction about who and what they are comes from within and they only ever allow people they trust to influence it. So generally their idea of what they are worth and their identity is strong enough that the only people that can give them doubt are the people they trust and respect, people whose opinion matters to them. They can be hurt if they trust the wrong person.
In the same way, they won’t show weakness when out and about. This isn’t likely to come from a belief that they can’t be vulnerable but rather from a sense of duty and responsibility. In order to be a great leader, people have to feel that you are indeed unshakeable. The only way people believe that you know what you’re doing is if you believe it yourself.
So even if you are hurt or sad or possibly uncertain about the choices you make, you don’t show it to the outside world. You wait until you’re safe, alone or with the people you can trust, the ones that you can be vulnerable around.
No matter how alpha you are, you’re always going to have to recharge at some point. As long as nobody sees it. That’s how it generally works.
I once had a job interview where somebody asked me what it would take to break me. At the time I didn’t have an answer. Afterwards I came to the conclusion that no matter how stressful or bad a situation is, as long as I can walk away and recharge I can handle it. But if you keep me from escaping it, eventually it can wear me down. Much like a wild alpha lion in prolonged captivity will eventually lose that spark in their eyes.
Somebody once told me I should never use the word “decision” because it indicates finality. He told me to think of any positive word ending in “-cide”
Instead, he said I should never decide. Instead, always make choices. Because the beauty of choices is that you haven’t closed any doors. You can always make a different choice.
And when it comes to being an alpha, an old manager of mine told me he never makes wrong choices. Whenever he makes a choice, he is convinced that at that time and that place, it was the right choice. If it later turns out bad, well, he can always make a different one which will be completely right at that time and place.
In other words, as an alpha you have the conviction that switching from Dragon to EoG was the right thing to do, based on the information and goals you had. If you later conclude you should switch back to the Dragon, that also is the right thing to do.
And if for some reason you look back and still think it was the wrong choice, simply realize there’s nothing you can do about that now, set your sights forward and make new choices.
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i am biggest alpha
edit: jk
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We all knew it but were too afraid to say anything
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I am curious if anyone has run Ascension with EOG ?
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You just described my landlord
I would also include insecure
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I’m curious why people don’t think Khan is a good subliminal to start off with, it comes with a full stage of breaking down/healing, a full stage of realigning your ideals and then pushes you off into the world. To me that’s a good foundation.
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Well, the first stage is not called Total Breakdown for no reason. It’s not an easy one. At the time of its release, Saint described it as tearing you down and rebuilding you from the ground up.
For some people, it needs to be run for a long time to fully do its job. There are other subs that will be nicer to the beginner, providing a smoother journey.
In addition, most people can’t wait to reach Stage 4, so they give Total Breakdown a few weeks if it is lucky, then move on to the other stages. Or they create a monster stack of which Total Breakdown is a tiny part. So the wrecking ball has barely punched a few holes in your old foundation and you’re already moving in the new furniture.
Khan will work for a beginner, if they are patient and can handle being slapped around by reality.
That’s the way I see it anyway.
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No, lets not. It is totally irrelevant to this discussion if I’m human, an AI or a little green man from mars.
Does everybody have the right to believe in ANYTHING?
Are you REALLY trying to claim that?
I will prove you are wrong by your own definition further down this reply.
It may well be convenient to let people believe in anything but where does that leave us. The problem is that they won’t keep their incorrect beliefs to themselves and that does affect the rest of society.
Therefore for the betterment of society it is a good thing that incorrect delusional beliefs be challenged.
This is where the individual is paramount. We each have it within us to judge other people and accord them the level of respect or not they deserve. this is because individuals are just that, individuals and not some amorphous interchangeable mass.
So, when someone is engaging in suboptimal behaviour it is reasonable to let them know of this fact. Now granted it is not always possible to have full knowledge of others and therefore such suggestions may in themselves be wrong but the individual is still granted agency in whether to change or not.
Do you fully support former muslims leaving your faith because that’s what they now believe?
Because according to your post above you should do.
I wonder what would happen for a person who first ran all 4 stages of Dragon Reborn and only then began stage I of Khan.