New to Subclub and need help

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#1

Hey everyone, my name is Gabby and I am newer to subs and completely new to Sub Club. I am going thru significant challenges and a lot of painful things in my life. I have been looking at ways to un F*** my life, grow as a person and to not feel so stuck.

I just started about a week or so ago( maybe week and a half) with one of the free titles, Genesis: The Art of Happiness and Joy. It looked pretty “mild” and I have seen it promoted as "beginner friendly.

I also downloaded Love Bomb for Humanity but haven’t started that one yet.

I will be completely honest with you guys that I am a little discouraged right now. I don’t want to quit something too soon that could be life changing but I also don’t want to push myself into something that is not for me and that could make my mental health even worse than what it is. So basically, right now, I am trying to decide what I should do. If you have any thoughts, ideas or feedback for me that would be great.

I started out with my current title last week at a mere 15 seconds of listening time. Those 15 seconds felt really good so the next day after my rest day I increased it following the instructions listed. I am now at 3 minutes. I didn’t feel much of a difference at first but now I feel really crappy. I have been exhausted these past few days, have alot of head pressure and am struggling with alot of anxiety- more than usual. I have been dealing with alot of very stressful situations lately and I am not a stranger to fatigue or headaches so I wasn’t really sure if it was part of recon. How do you guys tell? Since I wasn’t sure, I went up to 1 minute and then 3 minutes(about 3 minutes, 30 ish seconds by accident) and now I feel totally crappy. Extreme fatigue, brain fog and anxiety. I am feeling extra flaky and forgetting things too. I have also been having really vivid dreams, not bad but just strange. I am wondering if maybe I am so tired because I am not having a restful sleep because of all these wacky dreams. I took an extra rest day before listening again and went back down to 2.5 minutes and it did not help. If this is recon how long does it usually last? Should I switch to A Love Bomb for Humanity? Or is this happening because I am too messed up for subs and need to wait to try again when I am in a better spot in life? I just was looking for ways to help improve my life and now I feel like I made it worse.

On another note- one thing I have noticed is that I have been asking myself a lot of questions lately. I am typically a very introspective person but I feel like I am much more so than usual. I don’t know if that is the result of the subs or a product of my imagination and OCD. The frustrating thing is that I don’t know the answers to the questions I am asking myself so I just end up going in circles with myself

Thanks for reading!

By the way, if this should go into another category, mods please feel free to move it. I put it in introductions but it could probably also go in a different area as well

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#2

This is typical reconciliation.

It’s good you are reducing your play time along with taking breaks, so you are doing it right. The extra introspection is you trying to bridge the suggestions with your current reality.

If it helps, try the new LBFH for 1m and see how you respond to that title, if not, take breaks and journal (privately or on this forum).

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#3

Drinking a lot of water under one hour helps reduce these unpleasant things for me.

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#4

LBFH got an update just a few days ago, be sure to grab that version.

That sounds like recon.

Recon doesn’t have to be dependent from your current problem, it can coexist and amplify each other.

When in doubt, lower it down.
The reward of going up quickly doesn’t justify the risk, especially with your current mental condition.

Take it slow.
Even us long time users here are not shy to take it really slow when needed.

Textbook recon right there.

If it has gone to that degree, then what you need now is an early washout.
Take that 5+ days of rest that should have been at the end of the cycle now.
Reset and come back the next cycle after you’re properly refreshed.

Then start with shorter playtime again.

Take it slow.
Make very sure you get no recon, and then move up.
Don’t rush it.

Stimulate, not annihilate.
There’s nothing as being too slow with increasing the exposure.
Finding the sweet spot is the most important thing. Even if it’s only 10 seconds, so be it.

Edit:
The dreams are normal, it’s just your mind processing things from the sub.

If it gets too distracting, lower the exposure.

Goodluck.

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#5

It really seems like a recon for me.

To proceed recon faster make sure you sleep enough (8 hours), stay hydrated, eat enough proteins (at least 1g per 1 kg of your weight, ideally — 1.5 or even more if you do sports) and enough physical activity during day.

I recommend you to increment 10 seconds per listening session. A drastic jump from 15 secs up to 3 min could be sudden for your brain.

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#6

Also I wouldn’t jump to 3 minutes, or move up that fast anyways. Take 15 seconds and stay there for a few listening days. Then slowly increase listening time. 5 seconds more, 10 seconds more. But not minutes more.
The moment you notice the recon symptoms you mentioned, you have to decide if they are bearable or not. If not, add a rest day and decrease listening time again.

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#7

I will probably take your suggestion of taking the 5 plus day break early then I will either come back to the Genesis title or try LBFH.

Is it normal to feel recon like this with a simple title like this?

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#8

Hello, welcome to Subliminal Club!

Yes, while the title itself is simple, the subject matter – developing true happiness and joy – is often linked to very deep issues arising out of childhood. This can make tackling them difficult at times. Always prioritize mental health over self-development efforts and as a general precaution, we always recommend considering seeing a qualified mental health practitioner to deal with deep issues.

That being said, with our subliminals, less can most certainly be more. There’s no need to try and rush to listening through the entire loop. Getting results at 15s and then experiencing issues at 3m is most certainly a recon response. In this situation, I’d go back to 15s and stay at that length for awhile, allowing you to work through many of this issues easily.

From the Instructions:

Because of how our micro-loop technology works, we recommend a progressive listening approach: starting with very short exposure times (as little as 15 seconds) and gradually increasing over time based on how well you’re processing the input. This allows you to find your optimal “sweet spot” for exposure—the amount that can produce excellent results with minimal reconciliation.

Take note of the bolded – move through the title gradually. This means that you can move through the title at a very slow pace and still observe profound results and benefits. If you felt good at 15s, prioritize that amount of exposure.

Also, you can always add more rest days if necessary. Going down in exposure is always okay – no need to question it. Going up is where you need to observe your inner state and decide. This decision doesn’t even have to be difficult. It can be “do I feel better today than I did yesterday?” If the answer is no, move down in exposure.

Many of the people on the forum are quite advanced in using subliminal audio and with self-analysis. So, many of them will be able to move through a title much faster, or experiment with listening times more. But, ask them – these same individuals have performed an incredible amount of inner work and worked through some serious issues, allowing them to run more difficult titles at a faster pace because the foundation has been secured.

If you do use Love Bomb for Humanity, start with 5s. I know, sounds unbelievable, but it does indeed work. I say this because the themes in Genesis: The Art of Happiness and Joy overlaps with Love Bomb for Humanity (self-love, authenticity and the such) and if the former gives you issues, the latter may as well.

The biggest difference between the two is that Love Bomb For Humanity has significant nervous system regulation scripting. It literally helps calm the mind and body, which allows for the natural outflow of peace, joy, love, laughter – things like that – without a tense or vigilant nervous system immediately shutting it down.

If you try Love Bomb for Humanity and you do want to invest in future titles (and if you do not, that is okay, thank you for giving us a chance and for providing feedback) take a look at Summertime and Dragon Reborn: Regeneration. These also have nervous system regulation and inner healing with calm inner conditions, which also allow for the natural outflow of joy and the such.

But again and most important – always consider your own mental health first. If the titles are not helping, cease use or dramatically slow down and work through the issues slower.

Remember: less is always okay, more requires a bit of inner insight.

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#9

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I probably got up to three minutes too quickly. I will wait till all the recon has subsided ( how long does that usually take? My anxiety is telling me that I am stuck like this which is probably making my symptoms worse :frowning: ) and then try LBFH or maybe the original one at a slower pace if I am feeling brave. I might try some of the other titles you suggested in the future depending on how this goes. I have been trying to branch out and experiment with other things to improve my mental health. I am discouraged because I have been in traditional therapy for years on and off and it doesn’t seem to be helping. I might be losing my insurance anyways so I may not be able to continue with that either. . I hope my mental health isnt too bad for subliminals but I guess I will try again and see after my 5 plus day break and try again but slower. Thanks again!

#10

Just a few days. Two or three. We’ve all experienced reconciliation and it’s something that the newer titles attempts to very much soften. Take a look at what the instruction manual says about it:

Reconciliation is one of the most misunderstood aspects of subliminal use, yet understanding it precisely is crucial for your success. At its core, reconciliation is the frustration that occurs when your transformed inner state collides with unchanged external circumstances — and you haven’t yet created the pathways for your new internal reality to flow outward into tangible expression. Thus, the two poles that exist within your perception – inner and outer – must be reconciled.

Why Reconciliation Feels the Way It Does:

The frustration of reconciliation is your system’s response to blocked flow:

  • You feel irritable because you have new capabilities with no outlet to express them
  • You feel restless because internal momentum has nowhere to go
  • You feel frustrated with others because your external circumstances (including how people treat you) don’t reflect your new internal state
  • You may self-sabotage as a way to eliminate the discomfort of the gap between inner and outer reality

Reconciliation can manifest in several ways:

Emotional Symptoms:

  • Irritability, frustration, or anger — especially at people or situations that represent the “old” external reality
  • Feeling that everyone else is the problem while you’re “fine” (when you’re actually in the throes of reconciliation and may not realize it)
  • Sadness as old patterns are questioned
  • Restlessness or inability to settle
  • Strong urges to quit listening to the subliminal

Behavioral Patterns:

  • Lashing out at others who haven’t done anything wrong
  • Withdrawing from situations that no longer align with your new internal state
  • Impulsive decisions driven by frustration rather than wisdom
  • Self-sabotage behaviors that unconsciously eliminate the tension

The Solution: A Two-Step Approach

When experiencing reconciliation, address it through this two-step process:

Step 1: Immediately Decrease Exposure

Your first response to reconciliation should be to reduce your listening exposure right away. This is not a failure or setback—it’s an intelligent adjustment to your processing capacity. Experiencing reconciliation often indicates you’ve encountered a deeper pattern that requires more integration time.

Lower your exposure in accordance with the listening guidance provided in Section 2.4:

  • Drop down to a shorter microloop interval (e.g., from 7 minutes back to 3 minutes or even 15 seconds)
  • Add extra rest days between listening sessions
  • Continue at this reduced level until reconciliation clears during rest days

Step 2: Create Pathways of Expression and Manifestation

Once you’ve adjusted your listening, the second critical step is to create pathways for your new internal state to flow outward through action.

When you take actions aligned with your transformation—even small ones—you create channels for the built-up energy to release and manifest:

  • Internal shift toward confidence + Action (speaking up in a meeting) = Energy flows into expression, reconciliation eases
  • Internal shift toward wealth mindset + Action (researching business ideas) = Energy flows into manifestation, reconciliation eases
  • Internal shift toward social mastery + Action (initiating conversation) = Energy flows into results, reconciliation eases

The action doesn’t need to be large. It needs to be genuine—a real-world expression of your new internal state that gives your transformation somewhere to go.

Practical Strategies for Moving Through Reconciliation:

1. Take Action (Most Important)

  • Identify one small action that aligns with your transformation goal
  • Take it today, even if it feels uncomfortable
  • This can create a pathway for internal pressure to release into external results

2. Physical Energy Release

  • Intense exercise is highly effective: running, heavy bag work, weightlifting
  • Physical exertion discharges the nervous, pent-up energy that fuels emotional symptoms
  • Follow with meditation or relaxation to integrate

3. Rest and Integration

  • Sleep allows your brain to process and integrate the changes
  • Take a day off from listening if reconciliation is intense
  • Trust that integration continues even during rest

4. Journaling

  • Write about what you’re experiencing
  • This can create awareness and help prevent unconscious lashing out
  • Helps you recognize reconciliation for what it is

5. Avoid Reactive Behaviors

  • Don’t make major decisions during reconciliation
  • Avoid arguments or confrontations when possible
  • Practice restraint with communication that could damage relationships

6. Adjust Listening if Needed

  • If reconciliation is severe, reduce listening time (use shorter microloops)
  • Add extra rest days
  • Remember: With Zero Point, less can be more effective

The Broader Perspective:

Reconciliation exists because change is challenging in any form. When you transform your internal reality through subliminals, there will be friction as that new reality seeks expression in your external life. This friction is not a design flaw — it’s a feature of genuine transformation.

Our subliminals are designed to question and challenge your subconscious rather than forcefully override it. This approach creates far less reconciliation than traditional methods, but it doesn’t eliminate the natural discomfort of growth. What you’re experiencing is your evolution—uncomfortable at times, but profoundly worthwhile.

Remember: The subliminal isn’t doing the work FOR you; it’s providing tools for you to do the work. Reconciliation is your signal to engage actively with your transformation through action, creating the pathways through which your new internal reality can manifest externally.

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#11

Thank you, I should probably look more at the instruction manual :woman_facepalming:t4:

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#12

Follow the manual to the T and most likely you will be fine

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#13

I am starting to feel a little bit better now as I am taking my extended break. In reflection I think I probably increased my listening time too soon. I don’t think I necessarily came in with the right understanding or in some aspects even the right mindset. I probably should have stayed at 30 seconds for longer and I didn’t journal at all which probably didn’t help. I was never planning on journaling because it’s not something I necessarily enjoy but I am now debating on starting up even if I don’t do subs. Arguing with myself about it lol

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