I probably use to do more loops than this when i was running all at the same time but that was crazy.
I wish you the best hope it does mess with your progress also make me wonder how long this will take to process fully
You know how it goes - this is something beyond our recommendations so it is fully on you.
Make sure to journal even more meticulously, it will help you notice the underlying process occurring. And not just on the first day, but also the days afterwards.
If need be, stop. Safety first and be careful.
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hehe. this thread escalated too fast and away from my personal record.
is this in response to my personal record attempt, or something else in this thread?
if it’s in regard to my personal record attempt,
This makes me anxious
Bro, why in the “self sabotage” would you inflict 14 loops on yourself? 
Just be careful. It’s a marathon not a sprint!!!
That’s possible. But I just am uncertain about it at this point.
To your experiment, yes.
Good, means you’ll be more careful. 
Going into high loops can be unpredictable. Some few can stomach it and get good results, others will simply stonewall and yet others will feel like they are going insane.
I keep having to remind people in private messages - these really aren’t toys. It’s not about little tingles of energy or short-term boosts of confidence (though you likely will experience both).
You are dealing with incredibly potent tools of self-development that help evolve you from your deepest, innermost core of existence. They will not just help you become who you desire to be but help you to become even greater than the most profound vision of yourself, over and over again.
So it’s important to be wise. Of course, you can experiment, we encourage it, but be mindful and careful.
You’d be surprised how often we get people inquiring about our warnings, like on the Dragon Reborn page, asking us whether it’s just marketing.
It’s not.
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I can testify to that!
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I do take off days, but not because I feel like I need them. I’m experimenting with the amount.
What I run is heavily wealth focused, and my mindset was already pretty good regarding that.
The results are great. Business keeps growing fast. I have extremely clear goals and I simply know how to achieve them.
It also helps that I tell others what needs to be done and they make it happen. I didn’t have that earlier. I built a team after I started listening to SC subs. I also happened to find awesome people for my team.
I’m in a really good place, mentally and results.
On the results front, we had our best day of sales yesterday with an email campaign, 25,6k €. The best thing about it was that I didn’t have to do anything for that to happen. Not even to tell them to run it.
However, I’m open to testing different methods of listening. And I would not recommend my approach to anyone else either. Test at your own risk, as @Fire mentioned
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Let’s see how I wake up tomorrow
@Fire in your experience and recommendation, what is the amount of loops an ‘average’ user can reasonably expect to work up to before experiencing stonewalling/insanity or adverse effects?
Hi fire
Question is how are you able to come up with all these potent subs.
Given you are not able to share your propierty methods
Where did you come from?
I know Saint is a writer but you both know a hell lot of things from vast areas of the spectrum.
Your origins story would be interesting.
I would also love to know what subs @Fire is currently running as well or if it’s a completely original custom if it has a base or similarity to anything we’d be familiar with.
Personally, and only my opinion, is that after using subs for years now, I’ve realized that they can be like sitting down to a really big meal (like 4 or more course) and as you sit there and start consuming, you take in the scents, the flavours, the mouthfeel, the aftertaste etc of the first course, however before you can really digest what you just ate, another plateful is placed before you and you’re now taking in all the scents, flavours, mouthfeel, aftertaste etc of that course, now subsequently mixed with the last course. You start to feel a little full and like you could probably take a break to digest, but yep, you guessed it, another plate is placed before you and because you signed up for this dinner, you just grin and bare it, knowing that all this consumption is most likely going to cause you pain and distress later even so. You’re onto the last course, and you are almost bursting (think the Monty Python Facts of Life sketch) but of course, you continue because you’ve convinced yourself that if you just shove it all down, that it will all have time to digest and do it’s thing once you’ve finished cramming essentially. Here lies the problem with that digestion though. You’re now trying to digest everything you’ve eaten. There were no bathroom breaks, no breathing exercises, no palette cleansers - just a big mishmash that you barely had time to appreciate. The consequences of this will most likely be evacuation in its most horrible forms.
So, now think of the subs in the same light. Especially superior SubClub subs (say that 10x fast lol) - they’re plates that are filled to the brim and take time to really digest properly, not to mention they all have particular scents/tastes & mouthfeels etc and if you’re just shoving it all in as fast as possible so you get results quickly, I think you’re going to hit the reconciliation wall pretty damn hard (as I did) and sadly start to think that subs just aren’t for you (again, as I did).
It was really only when I was forced to take a break from them (honestly, because I was sick for a few weeks and any form of subs at that time was just grating) and amazingly, in that time, the digestion time, all the reconciliation dissipated, my clarity of where to go next was overwhelming & even which subs were working & which just weren’t for me was clearly presented. I truly believe that I wouldn’t have realized any of this if I hadn’t taken the “bathroom break” that was desperately needed from the mass consumption I thought was the right track.
Anyway, to each their own of course, but this was my journey to a really easy schedule with the subs (max 3hrs a day & a few overnight… and like, that’s MAX with multiple subs) Any more than this and so many issues arise again, so I know it was my overcomsumption.
Hope this enlightens some that may need it. Love & light.
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It’s a very good analogy but sadly and as I’ve personally come to experience with my subconscious, doesn’t work that way for everyone. Hence why I’m assuming SC encourages to experiment when it comes to listening patterns and loops, they do have a guideline for it but if it doesn’t work why keep doing the same thing? That would be insane would it not?
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100%
And I will say that when I first started with the subs (here and some “lighter” ones elsewhere) I could listen to them all day. Once things moved to U & Q etc, that’s when I had to start limiting. Isn’t insanity realizing something is wrong but still doing it anyway - or something like that… so I definitely love the experimental notion that SC encourages. It led me to find what worked for me, which is why I shared 
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Your vocabulary is amazing. If I didn’t know you were from a Scandinavian country, I would think English is your first language.
I know you would like a specific number, but this is highly dependent on the user and the build in question. For example, we had an individual experience time loops and constantly repeating dreams within dreams when overloaded on a Terminus subliminal. Not really a negative effect, but a weird one, courtesy of a different build method.
Practically speaking, the 1-2 loops a day recommendation is more than enough to have stable, consistent progress. Beyond that, it is best to see for yourself - carefully and with journaling.
I would love to answer your question, but it will have to be at a later date.
Recently I had a bit of time to stop constantly running and testing experimental technology, so I created for myself an original custom subliminal.
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Yeah big up fire
This clarifies exactly what I was really looking for. Thank you
Excited to hear this one day.
probably totally original 
I would have guessed something similar to Alchemist and/or Emperor tailored for innovation in nature
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