My Next Stack - EF + Khan

[SuperSaiyan]

Hi everyone,

I’m planning on a new stack and looking for some opinions.

Basically my focus from now on will be on two main things: looking for a job (going to interviews and prepare for and do technical tests) while at the same time focus on building a very good body with lots of muscular mass and improving my CrossFit PR’s (Personal Records).

I already practice CrossFit for 2 years with proper technique, and my nutrition is a good one.

As a secondary goal, I like to spend some time approaching women at my new CrossFit box (I just registered on a new one), or being approached if possible. It’s important for me to find a new girlfriend, but work and fitness come first.

I think running EF is mandatory for the body and CrossFit goals, and I was thinking about adding Khan for the career and relationship goals.

Even though I have never run Genesis and I would like to, first I need to put the basics of my life together, before spending some time trying to figure out my life purpose.

I also considered Emperor, but it contains modules to build your own business, and at the moment it’s also not wise to invest time on that. I think before running Emperor, I should run Genesis.

Emperor Black was another possibility, but by the description I got the impression that I would not open myself to be approached or to approach, because it talks about the user going into isolation/retreat mode.

Now the questions:

1. What do you think of this stack?
2. I posted questions specific about EF here Main Disc. Thread - Emperor Fitness ZP - #216 by SuperSaiyan and here Main Disc. Thread - Emperor Fitness ZP - #217 by SuperSaiyan to keep it more organized and so that the answers can be found and reused easily by other EF users.
3. Questions specific to Khan were posted here Main Disc. Thread -- The New KHAN: Love and War (Now Available! Free upgrade!) - #1999 by SuperSaiyan for the reasons stated in the previous point.
4. Since it looks I only need stage 3 of EF and it’s a title more expensive than usual, can I make a custom just with stage 3 blended with Khan at a lower price than buying the 2 titles?
5. Using this stack, what would be the advantages or would it even make sense running EF SUPREME instead of EF?
6. Stage 1 of Khan “destroys” the users and it looks like a demanding title for every stage, so is it too much for the brain to process by adding EF to the mix?

Thanks,
Super Saiyan

[Parsifal]

@SuperSaiyan

What do you think of this stack?

I’d say it’s to overambitious.

Khan is amongst the hardest titles in here. It says that you should prepare yourself for Khan by running a entry level like Ascension or Genesis for half a year, then a harder title like Emperor for another six months and then you could go for Khan.

[Edit: I was sure this was official recommendation, but it isn’t.]

I don’t know how you felt on Ascension at then end, but I wouldn’t run Khan as long as I’m not comfortable with Ascension.

Secondly you say you need to put the basics of your life together first before you can run Genesis.
Genesis is basically the sub for this task. It has purpose scripting to identify a field you want to work in, it has a lot of financial scripting, confidence, attraction, romance, charisma, drive, etc.

So basically anything you need to put your life together.

For EF, did you ever look into Spartan? It’s a single stage sub and probably the most used fitness subs in here.

@SuperSaiyan

Since it looks I only need stage 3 of EF and it’s a title more expensive than usual, can I make a custom just with stage 3 blended with Khan at a lower price than buying the 2 titles?

Probably not. For a custom you need 10 modules (15$ each =150$) plus 100$ for the build and 30$ for the mask you know from main store titles. So you need to pay at least 250$ for a custom.

Plus, you can only use one stage of Khan in a custom, so you would need 4 customs or you’d need to buy Khan separately.

Customs aren’t an option to save money.

@SuperSaiyan

Using this stack, what would be the advantages or would it even make sense running EF SUPREME instead of EF?

AFAIK, EF supreme contains the Beast subs for workout.
If you’re looking for that, get it.
If you’re wanting a very good sub for training in general, I’d go for Spartan instead.

@SuperSaiyan

Stage 1 of Khan “destroys” the users and it looks like a demanding title for every stage, so is it too much for the brain to process by adding EF to the mix?

I can’t tell how demanding EF is, but as long as you’re not comfortable with Ascension/Genesis I would not touch Khan.

I think @Saiyan4Blue had a very interesting thread on Khan. Despite being a very experienced user he described Khan 1 as a walk through hell (paraphrasing), IIRC.

@Saiyan4Blue

With each passing day things got worse and worse which further highlighted obsticle within. I was losing control and myself quickly enough i started walking around with nothing but pain and examining each and every single beliefe, mental structure and saftey net that ever existed within.

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To put it in a nutshell:

Run Genesis and Spartan.

It has all the basics to get your life together and get an incredible body.

Plus it’s cheaper than Khan or EF.

Also it’s a good preparation for a later Khan run.

[WorldOvertaker]

@Parsifal

Khan is amongst the hardest titles in here. It says that you should prepare yourself for Khan by running a entry level like Ascension or Genesis for half a year, then a harder title like Emperor for another six months and then you could go for Khan.

would you please point out where it is said? I’ve been eyeing Khan for a while for my future plans. I’m currently running AM, was running Emperor for quite some time before but honestly I like AM much more.

[Parsifal]

Do you know this moments when claim something, being sure 100%, only finding out later that you remembered wrong?

I was sure this was on the product page. Mandela effect? Or perhaps this is just a warning here in the forum? Or it is just something someone adviced once, and I took it as official recommendation?

Still, even though it isn’t an official recommendation, I’d guess it would be my recommendation nevertheless.
Running some basic Alpha title first and depending on trauma perhaps some healing.
Not because Khan couldn’t do it, but to get a general understanding of how subs feel and work before starting the serious stuff.

[anon34983076]

@Parsifal

Running some basic Alpha title first and depending on trauma perhaps some healing.

Khan stage 1

[Parsifal]

And to prepare for a marathon, you’re running a marathon.

[SuperSaiyan]

@Parsifal

I don’t know how you felt on Ascension at then end, but I wouldn’t run Khan as long as I’m not comfortable with Ascension

Main Disc. Thread - Ascension ZP v2

Older results: Newer results: I’ve been using Ascension on a continuous cycle from the 20th September till the 25th October inclusive with 1s-2s loops. I listened Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, and took the weekends as breaks. These 3 days of the week are also the days I go to the gym, so I listen a few hours before going to the gym, so that I arrive there fully confident in front of Women, as the gym is my main place of interaction with Women. My main result, which is for granted and …

@Parsifal

Secondly you say you need to put the basics of your life together first before you can run Genesis.
Genesis is basically the sub for this task. It has purpose scripting to identify a field you want to work in, it has a lot of financial scripting, confidence, attraction, romance, charisma, drive, etc.

The problem will be to dismiss the urges about finding my life purpose, or about building my own business, as for now I would like to just get a job, as I’m happy with my career. That’s why I also didn’t consider Emperor. And for Emperor Black the explanation is on the first post.

If you don’t understand what I’m talking about when I talk about dismissing the urges, then read the following topics:

Is users free will really being respected?

When using Asc I felt an urge to go to a high class clothes shop, I didn’t want to go, because I have planned to do that only in a few months and it is not a priority, but I couldn’t resist. I felt forced to look at and analyze the clothes, but fortunately I was able to resist buying them. Anyway I wasted my time. When using Asc, I looked up for new places to eat in my area (and it felt forced), even though I already know there are no more good places around to eat. In the end it was time waste…

Are we still in control? Or is what all we do just an expression of the subs

Although my stack has gotten thicker and im still using subs more than ever albeit with microloops. I have recently wondered how much of what we do, say and think is because of our innate desires and not just because of the subliminals influence. In the journals and reviews we often see people , including myself, saying things like the sub makes me do so and so… makes me think this and that … If only i had this in my stack I would …etc etc and recently i realized i’d still like to maintain fu…

About Khan: it might be too demanding, you’re right, but imagine I run Genesis and I’m later on at work and in a relationship. At some stage I’ll have to run Khan, as I have lots of trauma to process, so the question is wouldn’t it then disrupt my life, forcing me to take lots of sick days and making me lose my job? Or loosing control of my emotions and make me loose my girlfriend?

So wouldn’t it be better to run Khan now that I’m not working and then go for a stable job and relationship?

I already bought EF Supreme as I’m a very demanding fitness person and I’m very experienced in fitness. I got too disruptive recon from stage 1, but I run it for 5 seconds, when I normally just run any title for 2 seconds.

Tomorrow I’ll run stage 3 for 2 seconds, as I don’t need stage 1 nor stage 2, as mentioned here: Main Disc. Thread - Emperor Fitness ZP - #223 by Uber_Elysium