Same here
Really hoping for a single stage
But I’ll adjust based on answer
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Whatever is in Emperor Reforged, would love to have some or all of that along with Beyond Limitless and Mind’s Eye.
Also the ability to read people, situations and plan strategically.
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Why are you against 2 stages though? that is an amazing feature… and you could always stack them.
@SaintSovereign never read this thread before now, but suddenly got a strong ping to go through it and make a suggestion immediately. So here’s mine and I hope this isn’t late.
Specialization
With the specificity with which you guys have been creating subs, and, the still increasing amount of offerings, I think it’s alright to take this one as niche as possible I.e Embracing Life as Grand Art
Now, I’m not saying this has to be a “revelation” style sub, but think of something like BL. So fundamental and very unique, which turns out to have quite a lot of virtues and adaptability. An underlying filter of being/perception that builds the foundation.
Not another do it all sub that just happens to be designed with career artists in mind. Renaissance men/women/people exist in all fields of life, not just specifically in the arts 
Why?
Quite a bit of what has been mentioned in this thread can either take its own form through the unique concept of RM (two suggestions in the next tab) OR be cultivated through stacking (I mean that’s why there’s so many offerings available right?).
- This ties into the nature of the new ZPU, giving users more agency for conscious guidance.
- This will help users create better stacks/use case regardless of whether they’re an artist looking for deep focus, an entrepreneur trying to expand their perceptive filter or even a regular person just looking for a different experience.
*Also with specialized RM subs like VIBES (which I’m guessing there will be more) that are multistaged having the full set of skills (fame, monetization, skill work, sensory development) I don’t think it’s necessary in RM. Stack and consciously guide your sub use.
Feature suggestions
A Philosophy of Passion
Crafting a personal philosophy through deep exploration of your world and what passion and freedom means to you. And living through it. Think of a bridge between Philosophies for the Everyday from BL and The Final Authority from GLM.
If there’s a framework for building your life as an artist around, most of the other issues that come with being an artist can be dissolved—fame, popularity, losing yourself to your art, inflexibility, frame, resilience, freedom, resonance and even certainty/confidence in actions.
This can look like resilience and ease in expression from knowing who you are (nervous system scripting can even come in here). Experiences/encounters that deeply move you (resonance, certainty and opportunity recognition etc)
There’s even more applications I can think of.
The Paradox of Expression
This lends to Expression and Execution. Think of a bridge between Wanted Execution of WANTED and The Wonder is Practical of BL
- Makes it easier to express your art in whatever form, stage or whatever scale.
- Along with translation to any other field of life.
- Shifts it from becoming a reforged title.
- And I’m guessing this will handle quite a bit of inaction and creativity/style (inspired vs learned dichotomy) recon.
In creativity, this can look like feeling your world fully, building a framework vision based on what you already have (knowledge, experience, emotions, people etc) and when required move into your external reality to find inspiration. Or flipping the process the other way around.
I’m execution, this can look like a seamless transition between focused exploration/refinement of craft/self and periods of external expansion (communication, empathy, collaboration, leadership, public activities etc)
EDIT: On Second thoughts, this looks like a sub that might give me quite a bit of recon.
However, I gotta advocate for the non career artists too😮💨
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To answer these questions, practically
Creativity is awareness both to the inner world and the outer. This includes emotions, logic, visuals, patterns, sounds, memory etc.
The reason why I said this is that there is actually quite a bit of deep modeling/sampling/cross-referencing done in the subconscious and we receive “pings” of the next likely thing that matches an intended expression.
The interesting part is that the “intended expression” also updates as if that in itself is also sampled by the subconscious mind. And can also be empty, then the subconscious throws darts till it finds a pattern, then uses that pattern as a sort of intended expression, that’s the point where we step into uncharted territory.
You can see this same thing play out both in whatever form of experimentation (free flow or framework) OR inspiration (subconscious structures are triggered—>associated pings arise—>then get refined—>then expressed in one form —>cycle continues).
Source of Creativity?
There’s no source.
Better stilll, how do people create conclusions?
Frame of perception—>experience—>inference—>frame of perception
Still the same subconscious sampling, as long as there’s something to synthesize, there’s a source of creativity. Maybe unless we collapse back into a singularity, then I don’t know.
@SaintSovereign The actual question I’d like to ask is about the depth of creativity? What makes something impactful, vivid, rich or even riveting?
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Hope this makes it into New RM even though it’s describing RM Black.
@SaintSovereign and @Fire
Breath between spiritual practice, art and science.
Many of us have a well conceived notion of what an “Ultimate Artist” is, however it is much more difficult to fully comprehend the depth and scope out of which a Renaissance Man works. Many “artists” see themselves as creators, but the Renaissance Man works in concert with creation, the forces of evolution.
Imagine Renaissance Man as an apex title, one that stands above all of the other titles in your catalogue. It is more than just the ultimate synthesis of everything you have been working on, it realizes the very heart and nature of human capacity.
I’m hesitant to say more because I think that what I’m envisioning is an artisan title, or possibly a title to be unlocked by advanced users, or even something never to be released at all. The level of responsibility and the stakes are high.
We breath in, and we breath out.
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@SaintSovereign probably too late now lol; I only finally just got around to posting here.
But my primary concern is that for me, my understanding of a classic Renaissance Man has always been someone who bridged science/engineering/invention with art, creative writing and other artistic things.
For me, engineering, science and invention generally are creative endeavours of the highest order.
I was hoping for a sub that would contain modules along the lines of being able to quickly learn and master science, engineering and technology, along with BL: ITW style scripting for abstract genius in applying those things in novel ways and coming up with unique ideas in a way that is suited to the personality and background of the creator.
I also love the whole BL: ITW concept of being a kind of conductor of ideas.
Also the scripting about visualisation on a whole higher level, including being protoype things in one’s own mind.
And all this alongside artistic and literature-based creativity and innovation, and the genius that comes from having skill and mastery across these areas and the understanding and ability to bridge separate disciplines and gain novel insights in the process.
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@SaintSovereign for stage 2, having some scripting that utilizes existing connections/pathways of manifestation for people who are already established like you were discussing with RICH might be nice. Don’t know too much of the technical aspects, but the way ASBR goes about it works well.
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There are many ideas from Beyond Limitless , I would love to see jn RM and UWX.
But one really good feature is ESSENCE: The Wonder and the Mystery which “In practical terms, this means enhanced intuition. Creative breakthroughs that arrive sideways. The capacity to hold complexity without collapsing it into false simplicity.
But beneath the practical lies something more essential—a remembering. That you are not separate from the mystery observing it through glass. You are the mystery, aware of itself, reaching toward what it has not yet become.
The wonder was never out there. It was the eyes you forgot you had.”
To be inspired and be able to translate the wonder snd mystery into our cognitive and creative endeavors no matter what art or science we are passionate about. And to be able to generate thoughts and creations out of the ether and by observation of the things around us would come in handy in our own work and play.
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Agreed. I referenced this feature earlier when speaking about how Tarantino is a receiver.
Saint said this about how the creativity will work.
I might do a New RM Stage 1 / RM: UWX name embed. The creativity from New RM Stage 1 would probably send the RM: UWX scripting into overdrive.
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@SaintSovereign Will the ESSENCE modules for New Renaissance Man Stage 1 and 2 drop with or soon after New RM? Like how there was a 2 day difference between Heartsong and its ESSENCE modules.
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Maybe, considering this quote.
Yes, they will. We’re doing this intentionally, partially due to @Jouissance 's idea he mentioned with Genesis: Ascension. Additionally, Stage 2 of Renaissance Man has the ESSENCE of Stage 1 built directly into it.
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Interesting.
So does that mean The ESSENCE of Stage 2 will have a lighter or smaller version of the ESSENCE of Stage 1 built directly into it?
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It does not. Stage 1 is the Creative Engine. It is focused on that and that alone. If we include romance and the such in both stages, people who just want to work on their creativity will have to contend with manifesting partners and the such. With this title, the split is specifically designed for the individual to choose what they want to prioritize. Since Stage 2 is the “take your creativity into the world,” that’s where the romance scripting is. We included the ESSENCE of Stage 1 so that individuals can still maintain and develop their creativity.
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I know.
I’m asking if the creativity ESSENCE (Stage 1) will also be included in ESSENCE Stage 2, but to a lesser extent. Not the other way around where there would definitely be the conflict of romance scripting like you described.
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My mistake.
Yes, it will. It’ll be distilled versions of the entire core, so ESSENCE Stage 2 will contain elements of what you’d find in Stage 1, but it’s still an ESSENCE, so everything is distilled.
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So is RM launching today or tomorrow? lol
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