So heartstrong and RM fall within the same semantically similar vector space? Interesting hint 
@SaintSovereign You’ve spoken about the creativity aspects of New RM, but will it also have the same dreaming spirit, relentless self expression, and shattering the blocks on self expression aspects that the current RM has?
Plunging yourself into beauty in all forms? Pure intensity and zest for life coalesced into the form of a man or woman?
Right now, we are exploring the idea of two stages – similar to Heartsong. Stage 1 focuses intensely on creativity in a new and novel way. Stage 2, like VIBES is an ASBR style stage for marketing your work, romance, etc.
I do not want to compromise the creative part for the elements that you can get stacking another title.
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So stage 2 is RM black? Lol
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Artistic Alpha is the way Saint once described it. Gives you a lot of the ‘alpha’ identity scripting without losing out on the creativity.
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When you can make feelings into art, or see things and let it inspire creating a piece of art, and the art that you create gives vibes (hopefully positive but not necessarily) that are unique and undeniably there. In any case, the creation of things that enrich the experience of life. The making of things that inspire.
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And AI Mastery
I personally do not want anything remotely AI related in this title.
AI is not creativity. It’s the lack of creativity. AI is not art. It’s an abomination of art if you ask me.
Sorry if I’m shooting down your idea, Warrior, but that’s how strongly I feel about AI.
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I am assuming with AI you mean LLMs. Since prompting is language-related and needs good self-expression there is no need for anything specifically related to “AI mastery”. Just as there is no need for “Rust mastery” or “Japanese mastery”.
If you do ultimately decide to do that, could you make it a 3 Stage Title? Stage 1 and 2 would be what you described, and Stage 3 would be both stages combined. Similar to how KB Stage 4 is the sum of the 3 previous stages.
Plus an Essence
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Ok, Saint. The Renaissance is upon us, and you’re next up to bat. Can you go into any detail on how New RM will produce creativity in a new and novel way?
Too difficult to explain in a post like this. I’ll give a hint – think about how Beyond Limitless works by helping the individual see across different aspects of life and reality and then synergize those insights into a unique offering.
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Beyond Limitless was giving me a major creativity boost music-wise. Looking forward to it
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Idea thread
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No idea how far along this is.
But the current rabbit hole I am feels somewhat related to RM. Expertise acceleration, mental models, and cognitive skills.
In short:
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What makes experts better or fundamentally different than regular practitioners?
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Can you actually extract and learn “this” from them?
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How do you improve your internal mental models to speed up expertise? (i.e., How do you upgrade the pathways you use to orient and solve problems faster/better?)
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Can you take this mental wiring from Area 1 and transfer it to Area 2?
In broad strokes, yes you can—though transfer is tricky.
If you want resources without reading an essay: look up Cedric Chin (commoncog.com) and Gary Klein (Cognitive Task Analysis / Naturalistic Decision Making).
The rest is too spread out for a single source, but the gist is:
Experts look at situations with a completely different perceptual filter, and you can teach people to see through that filter.
This is basically what Warren Buffett did with Katharine Graham. It’s also how top-tier 1-on-1 mentorship works through case studies:
You analyze a problem (or a company), make a thesis, and get ripped apart by your mentor for ignoring XYZ while fixating on ABC. Over time, you learn why XYZ actually matters. You start seeing the world through new glasses. Your brain adopts a new pathway for breaking down the problem.
(The catch: your mentor actually needs to be competent. If they aren’t, you’re just wearing broken glasses and learning to misread the cues.)
What about far transfer?
Cognitive science usually says far transfer is nearly impossible because expertise is domain-specific. But when people do pull it off, it usually comes down to moving between vertical abstraction and horizontal connections.
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Fixing a pipe and fixing electrical wiring are both physical, hands-on tasks—horizontal to each other at the same level of abstraction.
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Marketing lives at a much higher level of abstraction (abstract strategy vs. physical wrench-turning).
Yet you can use a “funnel” model across all of them. The funnel is an abstract concept: in plumbing, it’s volume/flow; in electrical, it’s wire gauge and amp throughput (overload the funnel and the house burns down); in marketing, it’s lead conversion. The skill isn’t just knowing the model, but having the judgment to know when that abstraction fits and when it breaks.
While this drifts into the edge of Raikov / Limitless territory, it’s fascinating and doesn’t feel that distant from RM either.
The hardest part seems to be: How do you develop the cognitive flexibility to avoid treating every problem with the same hammer? That’s where a polymath actually shines—having the abstraction capability to borrow the right frame from one domain and map it cleanly to another.
(Cleaned up post with AI, ideas etc are mine)
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Will it go well with Index Gate?
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that is exactly what I want an expect from the new RM….I just want it to be versatile and broad so I could apply it to multiple facets of my life… 
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I think, at times, that Renaissance Man may be crucially important for me.
The Inner, Meaning, Ontological, ‘Spiritual’ side of life has always come more easily to me than other parts of life. I’ve had numerous humbling learnings around this throughout life. And I’m grateful for what I’ve experienced.
An ongoing ‘challenge’ is to bridge the divide between Inner and Outer. To find ways of protecting, cultivating, and harnessing that root of BEING in the form of expressions in the world. I know where my deepest allegiances lay, but that does not mean there is anything wrong with being expressive and productive in the world.
So far, part of the approach has been Ecstasy of Gold and Mogul with a WHOLE LOT of conscious guidance. It’s slow going but growth continually happens. It seems, sometimes, that there might be a program that could meet me closer to where I am. Fledgling, beginning expression in the world on top of a solid foundation of inner growth.
Like an intuitive or ‘right-brained’ Emperor or Emperor Reforged. Embodying a calm confidence in one’s iconoclasm. Not struggling desperately to prove oneself or one’s worth. Just a simple, grounded willingness to take seriously one’s own ideas, experiences, and dreams.
I’m an INFP. The Introverted Feeling corresponds to the ‘spiritual’ ontological foundation: Revelation of Spirit, Alchemist, Alchemist Royal.
But the other side of the INFP, the strategy for navigation of the world is Extraverted Intuition. Seeing patterns, connections, creative syntheses and possibilities. Vision Quest and Vision Expression.
Is this the Renaissance?
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