Main Idea Thread - The New Renaissance Man

[Golgo13]

I think you’re missing the point of what I’m saying. It’s not about being confused with the creative process. I’m saying that when most people come up with an idea, they’re not attributing that idea to a higher power. When that lightbulb or eureka moment happens they’re not saying to themselves, “Thank you Universe. I am but a mere vessel and I owe it all to you.”. You may do this, but most people do not.

This feature would make it absolutely clear and obvious that a higher power is working though them because the idea they receive is so beyond them, so transcendent, that they would question how they even came up with it in the first place.

If you believe this to be the way the creative process works anyway then this feature would make everyone who runs New RM aware of it as well.

[Antares]

Life as art.

[Golgo13]

I like that. It could be an NSE feature.

[Haru]

That’s too much religious mumbo jumbo. Pair it with RoM, RoS or Alchemist if you want to feel as if you are a tool of a higher somethingsomething.

edit: I don’t mean that as a personal attack or anything. I would just like to keep the script free of any religious connotations.

[whatevermore]

I’m not sure what point I am supposed to have missed.

[Golgo13]

No offense taken. SC always says that they don’t use religion in their subs.

It wasn’t meant to be religious. Thats why I said.

@Golgo13

God, the universe, whatever you prefer

I don’t care if people are religious or not. I’m not saying to believe in an old man sitting on a thrown in the clouds. I’m saying that there is something bigger than you or I governing this world. This universe. Whether that’s God, the Universe itself, Source Energy, a collective energy like The Force in Star Wars, whatever it is… there is something bigger than us. Things aren’t just the way they are with no rhyme or reason. I’m just suggesting that we tap into whatever that power is that gives great artists their creativity like the ones I mentioned early. And tap into it in such a way that we are literally gobsmacked that it came out of us.

@SaintSovereign

The Wonder is where every breakthrough begins. It is the hidden current beneath every great work. And he trusted it.

In his words, “My brain is only a receiver. In the Universe, there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, and inspiration.” He lived from that core. He anchored in the unseen — and because he did, the world was changed.

We already have a similar feature in Beyond Limitless. Tesla, Tarantino, Michael, they were receivers.

[Golgo13]

I misread it. I thought when you said…

@whatevermore

For someone who thinks that the idea actually came from the artist

I thought the someone you were referring to was people in general. I didn’t realize you were speaking about yourself.

[Golgo13]

The tagline of Subliminal Club is “Become Legendary”. When you think of a Renaissance Man you think of Leonardo da Vinci. da Vinci became legendary. His name and his works have lived on centuries after him.

It would be great to have a Legendary Feature in New RM. Something that allows us to not only become creative, but become a Visionary, Icon, Genius, Trailblazer, Groundbreaker, Mind Bender, and Innovator that creates works that live on for all time. A feature that allows us to create transcendent art that becomes even bigger than the very medium we create that art in.

[Golgo13]

I mentioned before that New RM should have New Fame Experience, but it doesn’t have to be on the level of Stark or ASBR.

Instead of automatically being a household name, the fame scripting can focus on finding your unique fan base. Just like Taylor Swift has her Swifties and Beyoncé has her BeyHive, New RM would give you your very own fan base that worships at the altar of your talent and art.

Again, you don’t need to have global fame. Only the real ones, the ones who really value your creativity, the ones who really get it, would be apart of this unique fan base. Although unique, this fan base alone would be more than enough to support your financial prosperity in your creative endeavors.

With this feature there should also be love for humanity (fan base) scripting that lets you connect harmoniously with your fan base and allow you to reciprocate the love and show them your appreciation.

[HeroicDragon]

Effortless Superiority… what he does and how he does always says… I’m better than you…

[driller]

+1 for this idea. I think there’s a huge audience of non-forum members who are struggling actors or artists and are looking into these subs. The major block they face is financial—many of them don’t have the financial backing to pursue their work.

I would say a sub that helps them monetize their work could lead to a perpetual cycle of creativity, similar to the concept of EOG. While running EOG, the hard work comes from the motivation created by past work and its rewards. Here, the reward could instead be perpetual creativity, wealth, and happiness, balanced in a way that allows an artist to avoid doing some soulless job just to survive.

Yeah, it’s delusional, but that delusion can have pragmatic, intangible utility: it can create the drive to make art and give the masses a glimpse of the light they themselves can’t reach because they’re trapped in soulless jobs.

[Antares]

[Golgo13]

@SaintSovereign Since New RM is your next title, is there any update or sneak peak you can give us?

[SaintSovereign]

@Golgo13

@SaintSovereign Since New RM is your next title, is there any update or sneak peak you can give us?

Hmmm… well, I think people need to remember that ultimately, this is a title about creativity. The nature of creativity and how to channel your creativity into meaningful action. It is the absolute core of this title, designed to help you transform into a creative force of nature.

[SaintSovereign]

To help with the conversation, let me pose a few questions: What is “creativity” anyway? What is the nature of creativity? What is the source of creativity?

Everyone is going to have a different answer. That’s what makes this title difficult to create. It’s like Heartsong in that regard, where everyone’s idea of a soulmate differs. The best way to get your idea included is by illustrating what results you’d like to see after a six month run.

[jelly]

I think creativity is the ability to, consciously or unconsciously, apply a unique or novel perspective or way of thinking to some kind of process. Connecting concepts across disciplines apply since it would be novel to the domain that the current activity is being done in. That would mean that inherently, creativity doesn’t necessarily need to be for what’s traditionally required as art, since life is just a collection of domains.

Ideally for me, I’d like to see myself become an embodiment of creativity and innovation in my day-to-day, even outside of traditionally artistic endeavors. It also makes the title seem more generalizable to the typical Renaissance Man label given to people in history. Embody the creativity to every aspect of your life. Maybe some kind of cognitive enhancement similar to Beyond Limitless in concept but ASBR in application in how it relates to the title would fit.

I’d also like to echo from a previous suggestion that I think a dedicated fame and no fame version should be made. ASBR feels like the big fame title right now without any counterparts. The super famous CEO archetype is nice, but what about the arguably greater number of famous artists that exist right now?

[Malkuth]

I think that creativity, practiced effectively in the world, is a multi-level phenomenon. That’s what makes it tricky to conceptualize.

On some levels, it looks like vagueness, openness, high-flexibility.

On other levels, it can look like intense focus, rigor, even highly strict proceduralization and solution-focus.

There’s a science fiction trope with which most people are familiar:

A mysterious craft, pod, or organic vessel floats down quietly and lands (or crashes) somewhere on planet Earth. A being of some sort emerges. It is fluid, amorphous, possibly amoeba-like. Then, depending on who or what it first encounters (within some threshold of acceptability criteria), the being adapts, takes a form, and mimics or copies the appearance, behaviors, language, and mannersism of some particular sub-group/sub-type of human being. At that point, the story changes (depending on the genre), and we have a sci-fi comedy, sci-fi horror, classical sci-fi, or what haver you. In any case, the being expresses high competency in learning and mastering life among the humans.

This to me is a good metaphor of the creativity and focused effective flexibility of the Renaissance Person.

• Frame Sensitivity and Context Flexibilty - like a kaleidoscope or a rubik’s cube, the mind can smoothly shift the same elements into multiple iterative configurations. A kind of Paradigmatic Multi-lingualism

• Ontological/Epistemological Humility - Not overly attaching to one way fo being, or one way of knowing as ‘THE RIGHT WAY’. Recognizing such ‘confidence’ as the prison it potentially is

• High Intelligence, Pattern Recognition, Pattern Improvisation -

• Synthesis and Integration Across (seemingly) Disparate Paradigms

• So-called Inductive and Deductive Reasoning Skills

• Transcendence of simplistic or conventional hierarchies of evaluation - A true genius can learn from the chants of children as easily as from the lectures of academics. The pattern is EVERYWHERE to be observed and studied.

Those are more on the levels of intellect and contextual frame

But equally compelling (and often much less recognized and discussed) are the HEART and MOTIVATION of the Renaissance Person.

• Field fluency: The ability to and enjoyment of diving into the WORLD of an individual, a group, a tradition—for its own sake. Not to “win” or to “defeat” someone, but out of skillful, deft love of the patterns themselves.

Remember the lines from Sting in Shape of My Heart:

He deals the cards as a meditation
And those he plays never suspect
He doesn’t play for the money he wins
He doesn’t play for respect

He deals the cards to find the answer
The sacred geometry of chance
The hidden law of a probable outcome
The numbers lead a dance

Those lines are describing how a Renaissance Man plays poker.

And then, there’s also a deep and abiding love and capacity of love that coexists with the obvious intellectual gifts of the Renaissance Person. Modern mythologies would have us believe that the renaissance man exists in a vacuum of self-made aloofness. Not true. Not true. There is a deep heart and capacity for connection that grounds the Renaissance Person. It may not be the conventionally narrow projection of attachment onto an Idealized Other, but it is vital, grounding, and extremely important nonetheless.

The Renaissance Person loves humanity, loves beings, and loves specific individuals. They just do so without sacrificing their ongoing engagement with exploring Reality itself. That love actually fuels and grounds their process and makes it sustainable. The love gives their genius a meaningful context within which to unfold. By love, I do not mean idealizing and depending others, or emotionally imprisoining and binding oneself or others. I mean maintaining an openhearted, openminded engagement with the reality of who and what is ‘Beyond Me’. Emotionally-integrative ego-transcendence. In short: Getting Over Oneself.

There’s much more to say here, but need to get back to the day job.

[Sebastian_Po]

@SaintSovereign

what results you’d like to see

years ago，if I remember correctly，at the time ，my stack was RM，RM：UWX and RoM。I was writing my novel that day，suddenly ，I felt like someone whispered something into my ears…murmuring something so vague that I barely discriminate the words，yet，clear enough to provoke an emotional reaction。So I captured it and transformed it into a passage，it is something so unique that I never write anything like that before and after。this experience I dont know what to make out of it，call it inspired by the inner muses ？possessed by the inner creativity ？whatever it is ，I just want to experience it more consistently…every time I do my creative project。

[Michel]

Trust in the creative downloads from above and the willingness and ease in making them into form.

Sacral energy, generation and the ability for it to be life and practice sustaining. A lot like the Ascension Stabiliser.

“Dominate” through sheer presence, self satisfaction and zero need to please anyone (judges, critics, naysayers, trolls)

[Haru]

I have always found the wikipedia entry for creativity to be very illuminating. It showcases just how vast a field creativity is and how there are many different approaches to understand, classify, and describe it.