Main Idea Thread - Emperor: Crown & Capital

Product Discussion
#101

I’m leaning towards a complete single title.

While the value of a multistage approach for exploring multiple topics is fantastic, I wouldn’t want to have to switch different stages to hit all its goals. I love that HOM is so complete as a single sub.

That said the value in 4 titles to explore this topic is a huge addition.

My vote would be Emperor: Crown and Capital as a single title. It is massive but so is Khan, Wanted Black etc.

If there is more to expand on a multistage sequal would be awesome.

Or at least a multistage linear that leads a complete stage 4 but with a title like this it seems running the totality longer would make more sense than only a couple cycles per stage.

Alternatviely there could be a deep dive in different elements but then there would not a complete single sub which is such a value for HOM.

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#102

I would be okay with this title being a multi-stage title. An idea I had is this.

Stage 1 for learning and using basics of business, financial markets, macroeconomics, sales, etc.

Stage 2 more for the business, connections, sales people.

Stage 3 more for the investing/trading/finance crowd.

With Stage 4, I dunno. Mix all 3 stages. It could be like the single title version where everything is in it.

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#103

I’ll be in favor of turning House of Medici into a multi-stage project as long as no new objectives are added.
For instance, if the current version is 20 pages and you divide it into stages of about five pages each, I’d fully support that — since I’m aiming for more focused and well-defined titles.

That said, I’d like to know what will truly set it apart from Ecstasy of Gold — what new element or perspective will this version bring?

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#104

The more I think about it the more I would hate to see this sub split up

If there was a single title HOM/C&C that had 3 advanced stages that be cool or three focused, learning stages that would be cool, but nothing that would take away from a HOM/C&C as a single use title/sub

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#105

:point_up_2: This
If you make it a multistage title, it would be great to have final stage that could replace current HoM in customs without having to decide which stage would be best or having to use multiple stages instead of single HoM.

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#106

Or leave one stage as OG HOM (upgraded) and other stages to explore different of deeper stuff.

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#107

I’m hoping HOM / C&C remains single stage :slight_smile:

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#108

I also really hope HOM stays single stage, or if not the old multistagers with ST4 being the all emcompassing stage.
We should look at our inspiration @Hoppa running the same program for years with amazing results. For me at least, I want the subs to be secondary, not thinking that much about them and helping in the background.
As opposed to (and I am 100% guilty of this in the past), continuously tinkering and adjusting my stack to be “perfect”.
i want to make plans, decide on a suporting sub and focus on my actions for at least 6 months.

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#109

I’d like to receive an HoM upgrade, a multi stager would mean a completely new and separate product. We already have EOG multi stager. HoM OG standalone was quite powerful, I don’t see why it can’t remain a single title.

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#111

I’d prefer single stage. Just fits me and my way of working with the subs better.

Planning on running the updated HOM long term single stack.

As a side note, I’ve run a couple of times the new GLM. Very intense dreams on that one.

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#112

HoM should be a single stage and a title with some money, asset and opportunity magnet. It should be both long term generational wealth with short term day to day improvement in one’s earnings.
Idea generation for wealth multiplication
Complete eradication of limiting wealth generation beliefs
Enhanced cognitive abilities like ASBR
No procrastination wrt wealth generation efforts
Enhanced aura of trust and respect
Better abilities to crack deals and get the beast financial deals possible
The family part as was in previous HoM
Some sort of high level of money attraction / manifestation so that one is able to see results in short term
Looks and calm demeanour so that one can be calm whilst making progress towards wealth generation and the process is very smooth

New wealth experience , new romance experience modules and anti recon script to be added

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#113

Yeah, I’m more single stage minded regarding HoM. It always has been a big sub and people should run it for a longer time to get the full effect.

Now, what is possible to do if you feel inspired, would be to do stage 1-3 as separate subs and stage 4 (complete HoM), closer to the original scripting - some way to keep everyone happy.

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#114

@SaintSovereign

I’ve been pondering this issue for a while because this sub means a lot to me, and I have a question for you:

Would E:CC achieve deeper results per domain if structured as linear stages, or does simultaneous processing of wealth, power, and legacy create synergistic effects that a single stage captures better than stages could?

#115

Ifffff it did go the multi stage direction, my request would be that one of those stages is focused on sales, networking, and marketing skills, to build up Capitol, and that it was kept in the traditional format of multi-stages where stage 4 is essentially the complete title with all of the stages included, just requiring some preparation work with the other titles for best results.

Also, I would prefer no healing in HOM, there are plenty of wealth subs for that, and rather the first stage be a tool for building starting Capitol.

@SaintSovereign definitely open to your ideas on a multi-stage.

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#116

@Chase, what so you mean with sales? I think there is a difference here. I am not interested in sales in the usual sense of chasing or convincing. What I want is the Medici approach building such trust, value and presence that people naturally want to work with you. That is not selling. That is attraction through influence though…

Edit: whoops mean @Niles lol

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#117

? I agree with what you said but I think you tagged the wrong person lol

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#118

Offering products or services in exchange for money, however you want to accomplish that whether it’s through influence, presence, word of mouth, or influence is up to you :man_shrugging:.

In the past, HOM worked extremely well for accomplishing that goal the way you described, rapport, presence, attracting the right people who are ready, able, and willing to buy.

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#119

Official Poll:

Please note that this poll will not absolutely determine what will happen. We are just gauging interest and seeing where everyone is at.

EDIT: Please consider this:

It seems the biggest discussion point is the desire to be able to update past customs. Customers who have built customs around HoM want to be able to update them without having to buy customs for multiple stages, or have to decide what stage to use. This is completely understandable. They are asking for the same experience as before, since they received good results on a single stage version.

  • Crown & Capital Single-stage
  • Crown & Capital Multi-stage

0 voters

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#120

Thanks Niles. That makes sense. What you describe is what I meant with the Medici approach. Less selling, more natural alignment of value.

#121

Although I liked my idea of a multi-stager, I have changed my vote to a single stage.

I think it would be better for the customer to not be bombarded by more choice with the stages from the main title and with customs.

For the customs store, less options is easier for the customer and I assume easier for the tech backend/behind the scenes.

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