Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

@Fire I have to say I agree with this.
Stylistically, the current system looks very attractive, but I do find it clunky to use (on a MacBook Pro, for the record), not as smooth a UI as it could be, and I think a simple drop-down menu system (or similar) would make it much easier to use.

I guess it would also make it easier for you guys to implement functionality such that users can select multiple titles for a stack, or combinations of customs for a stack (which is something I’d love to see!) and get feedback both on the individual combos and additional feedback on how they’d perform together in a stack or as a set of customs within a stack.

Regardless, it’s still a great new option that we didn’t have previously, so I appreciate all the hard work! :pray:t2:

2 Likes

Now I understand. Yes, that would be better solution than all the zooming in and put I was doing.

2 Likes

Its nice to hear tbh

That way i can have a set routine without having to wonder if ill havn to change anything afterwards

Also i’m curious since there is talk of C&C being turbed into a multistager would it be possible for Khan to be turned into a single stager?

Maybe with zpu it’s possible?

ECC is turned into multistager by spreading out current stages into 4 parts, the current single stage version will be combination of 4 stages

with current Khan, ST4 is the combo of previous stages so it’s pretty much the same, just 1 stage less

2 Likes

No need and we aren’t accepting requests of this nature. C&C is a special case. You can see in the C&C thread that we didn’t comment on the ideas until here: Main Idea Thread - Emperor: Crown & Capital - #76 by SaintSovereign

Here, I began to intuitively realize that most people couldn’t handle what they were asking for and threw out the idea that it should be multistage. Scroll down on that thread, look at how many people wanted a single stage. I even held a poll here:

The results were overwhelmingly in favor of a single stage. I should’ve trusted my instincts, since we’ve been doing this for nearly a decade now but I was hopeful that the Adaptive Scripting would help deal with it. For most people, it did. Many are benefitting greatly from it.

Adding a four stage variant is not some admission of C&C being flawed or being a bad upgrade. We created what was asked for, and if there is a mistake, it was us not trusting our instincts in favor of trying to achieve complete consensus. Thus, we are going back and doing what we originally intuited.

Next time our instincts are firing off at us, we will not ignore that. ASBR doesn’t need a multistage and Khan doesn’t need a single stage version.

19 Likes

I can’t imagine Khan as a single stage lol or ASBR as a Multistage
Both concepts are kinda silly IMO

6 Likes

Khan

Teardown and build back up in a single stage. That would be brutal! :wink:

(not to mention highly impractical, lol)

7 Likes

People asking Khan as a single stage must have never ran it.
Maybe they’re looking for a single stage somehow with dominance and highly sexual. Another archétype.

4 Likes

That is probably a fair assessment honestly lol… There is too much in Khan for it to be an actual signle stage … now i think it could be a duo stage lol stage 1 the break you down to hell stage and stage 2(2+3+bits of 4 lol)… At that point your mind would be overwhelmed trying to do stage 2 after stage 1 … it would just be overload i think …

2 Likes

That would be Emperor. We don’t have to complicate things.

5 Likes

Any ETA on Paragon sleep?

2 Likes

Could Genesis Ascension also be an option?

It should arrive next week, possibly with Health Protocol. We have the systems in place where we feel comfortable dropping and supporting multiple titles without people waiting a month for a response from support or dealing with very late customs.

It’s why we’ve avoided upgrading the big titles (like Ascension) and the such. We could no longer tolerate those overly long waiting times.

Now that things are moving smoothly, we’re good with proceeding ahead.

25 Likes

Emperor is one of the best subs created imo. Absolutely love it honestly. I can’t wait to see update. I’ll update custom in a snap of a finger.

5 Likes

Also, feedback for the Stack Explorer should be directed at @Fire to ensure it doesn’t get lost. He is leading that project. I am only providing technical support.

5 Likes

As I understand its paragons then true sell followed by maybe the revelation series.

Do you have an idea where in the order you expect the Khan Black update?

2 Likes

That’s @Fire ’s project. I’ll have to ask him.

3 Likes

It will release with the new build system. I showed some screenshots of it earlier.

7 Likes

It would be cool to have 2 options. One is the Mind Map edition (Current one). And the other is a Basic Edition (drop down menus).

@Fire

EDIT: this is regarding Stack Explorer. Custom Planner too if applicable.

3 Likes