Main Idea Thread - Emperor: Crown & Capital

Not sure if this has been answered already but will the HoM owners get this as a free upgrade or will this be a completely separate product like Wanted/Wanted Black?

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Free upgrade.

I’ve been so excited reading about all these ideas and remembering my results with HoM. I’ve decided to try the ZP2 version, which I only ever tryed when the update came out mixed with KB (which gave me crazy recon mixed with HoM).

Very eager to see this update! One of the great and unique titles here.

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I’d like E:CC to be beginners friendly. In other words it is suitable to a person who builds legacy from scratch.

One of my favorite parts of HoM is like other described the ability to be the best at networking so I hope that stays. I’m going to test out HoM again this week to get a refresher on it and what else to add.

What I hope that is not added and ideally ignored is scripting relating to building a legacy romance wise. Some people just want to either enjoy wealth by themselves or with their life partner but not have any new members if that makes sense. I think the sub should focus on building wealth for the purpose of wealth and not have romance scripting that could cause recon and problems for people who never want that type of life in the first place.

Having HoM focused on wealth but if the user wants to use that wealth to share the legacy to others they can through conscious guidance but not through the main scripting please please. That was one of the biggest reasons people had recon in the past but I think people with high flow factor on the sub can get rid of this but not others.

Completely free.

Or romance as well. HoM is about a sub building more wealth than anyone can imagine and being able to enjoy it with the people you love or sharing it to the people who need it not passing it down to generations if that’s not your desire or goal to be honest. Side tangent but I though I’d rant a bit after seeing some of the ideas shared here.

I partially agree but I also think HoM should be a sub that is perfect not just for entrepreneurs but people like Intrapreneurs and sales careers wheres the potential to make a huge amount of wealth is limitless.

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I think it if it was focused more on conscious guidance then having dedicated scripting to that it would be better. Like for people who don’t want that but want to take care of their partner and parents then they make so much wealth that their able to achieve it instead of passing it down/legacy which in my opinion would dilute and reduce the effectiveness of what makes HoM so good.

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What about for people who don’t want to have a wife or a family and instead want to make wealth to provide to their parents and relatives. I think that makes more sense than finding xyz since it would dilute the scripting when it’s a wealth focused sub.

I think the better way is find a partner who would help in making wealth. Irrelevant of if you want a legacy or not which some don’t care or want.

I think it’s a great idea as long as it doesn’t impacting your health or relationship that you care/love.

Not only in Bill Ackman a world class investor, he also wields world class influence.

After taking a large position in CP rail, he was able to pressure the company to implement several of his recommendations, including a new CEO and a streamlined operational model.

Artisan titles are known for pushing things to the max. I would like to see Influence and building strategic alliances pushed to the Max. The Trascendental Connection module pushed to the Max as well.

I’d like to see The Voice of Desire module from Wanted modified to fit the goals of Emp:C&C.

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For me, HoM was always the Dynasty sub.
Building wealth, yes.
But that’s also the goal of so many other subs.

What set HoM apart from them was the Dynasty scripting. Not building wealth on your own, for yourself and to share it.
But incorporating your whole family into this endeavor.
Not simply giving a share of your wealth to your parents or family, but building a dynasty like the Medici.
That means a lot of your relatives gets involved. It’s a family business. And not one like running a 7/11.
It’s not about sharing wealth, but forming a name that isn’t forgotten soon after your death. That still shines bright a few centuries later because it wasn’t just you that was making money, but your whole family, including future generations, is shining like the sun.

Bezos and Zuckerberg are fine examples foraybe titles like ASBR or Emperor.
But when I hear HoM, I’d rather think of names like Trump, Soros, Rothschild, Mars, Walton, Al Saud, Rockefeller, Fugger, Ambani, DuPont whatever.
Where there wasn’t one single spectacular rich guy, but where the whole family is involved and the future generations keep the fire burning, the glory of family name alive.

That’s the big point that sets HoM apart from Emperor, True Sell, Stark, Stark Black, EoG l, Roch Trader etc.
Everything else could be build custom wise.

Simply use conscious guidance to ignore said scripting.

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Sales capacity like crazy for all different fields, business development, B2B, B2B- the best of True Sell with high income-generating sales potential. Better to have this like a conscious mode/bubble than the baseline, though. That could compromise the HOM flavor.

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Yes honestly, HOM currently covers nearly everything I want it too already. I don’t see a huge need for additions of seperate objectives, but rather improvements of the mechanisms. NWE, implement the skill based features for the current objectives (markets, sales, networking, relationship building), but enhance the scripting through the skill based format, and maxed out tech and I’d be happy.

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HOM would be a stellar sub with simply upgrades and new tech-especially for sales and solid networking

I’ve made customs with it with NWE, which helps

I’ve been on and off running it, not just for sales but in finance -capital raising and investing in private companies, for years, and definitely find it’s could use some umph on the elements to create its intended goals- legacy wealth etc. HOM was the billionaire sub- it’s Medici the most wealthy and influential family of their time (Of course, that’s on me too, but just saying I don’t see it giving the support and overdrive in its intended goals or even getting close to that path the way I do with other subs and conscious action- sales, working out, romance, etc. )

Even with ASBR I get so much support for an solo endevour I try and quick attention online and in person when looking to make something new happen.

That’s not to say it’s not a great sub with a lot of great elements, that I find very valuable, (I’ve run it in a custom for almost a year now) but for me personally, I would like to see it be more of creating the path to legacy wealth now, sub.

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Could you elaborate on what you mean by this? I think I get the idea, just want to make sure I understand.

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Yes definitely, but will circle back for it

I’m just going to throw this out there, no decisions or anything have been made. For those who have run HoM, what would you think about it being a multistage title?

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Like the new EoG, covering more ground/different areas, or linear like Khan is rn?

Personally I´d like to keep it stackable/fit for a custom as one major/core.

Honestly, with a title like this, the linear method would probably be mildly more effective. However, the new multistage method would work well also.

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I´d run CaC as “endgame” title anyways for the foreseeable future once the updated version is out.

Whatever you do with it, I´d really appreciate at least one comprehensive stage that ties everything together, so I can just run that one as a single major/build a longterm custom around it, bc density doesn´t seem to be an issue for me anymore.

I am sure it´ll be legendary either way.

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@SaintSovereign as someone who ran it for over a year in the past, I think it would be easier to run as a single title instead of a multistage title if it’s just the current title but upgrade and the scripting is pushed to the max but if a lot of new features are added then it makes sense to have it as a multistage title.