Main Disc. Thread - Zero Point Custom Build Questions

[Athanaxos]

@bombayduck

All of the ZP titles use the Solace mask

Perfect. Thanks for the clarification!

[Lion]

Would recommend replacing Jupiter with The Architect since the latter is a Result Enhancement module that is better suited for physical shifting.

[Athanaxos]

@Lion

The Architect

I’ll look into this one! Although am hesitant about removing Jupiter as I also want some sort of manifestation module in there. Perhaps I should omit Energetic Development in favor of The Architect?

[Invictus]

@Athanaxos

Although am hesitant about removing Jupiter as I also want some sort of manifestation module in there.

You have a ZP manifestation booster that can be used as an extra to your stack, once a week, as well as the inherent manifestation powers of ZP.

Do you really think you need it ?

[Lion]

@Athanaxos

am hesitant about removing Jupiter as I also want some sort of manifestation module in there

What about removing Blue Skies? Must admit it seems a bit off in your custom. Any reason for including it?

[bombayduck]

The latest update to my tentative custom (yes I still haven’t purchased it yet, I try to be meticulous with my plans):

Cores:
Muay Thai Mastery X
Mind’s Eye

Subliminal/Stack booster:
Deus
Unlimiter (remove skill-based limits)
Carpe Diem Ascended (motivation & happiness)
Berserker (fighting stack booster)
Fortune’s Favorite (manifestation of luck)

Physical shifting:
APS: Legs
Serum X
Harmonic Singularity (relaxation of tensions in body, directly impacts physical and mental)
Elegance (graceful movement)

Mental skills:
Extreme Exercise Motivation
Ego Adsum (shifting focus into the present moment)
Submodel alpha (machine-learning approach to training using imagination)

Technical skills:
All-Seeing (sharper senses & perception)
Master’s Coordination (hand-eye coordination)

Physical skills:
Equilibrium (flexibility, agility, balance)
Inexhaustible (stamina)
Blink (speed)
Thunder (reflexes)

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Any thoughts/feedback would be appreciated, as always.

[AlexanderGraves]

@Athanaxos

Diamond Core
Mind’s eye Core
SPS: Endocrine System
SPS: Reproductive System
Male Enhancement
Epigenetics & DNA Modulator
Deus
Tyrant
Mountain breaker
Inner gasoline
Starfilled night
Blue skies
Whispered power
Depths of love
Mosaïc
Faith unweilding

Damn I am digging the idea of maximising sexual energy but then transmuting it. You plan on journalling on the forum? Would love to read that!

[Floridianninja]

@JayFlex

I kept forgetting to reply to this. I can’t speak for UA in a ZP custom, but I can for RM. So far it’s been incredible.

• My creativity feels off the charts. I’m constantly coming up with new ideas for my blog, ways to improve my book, and ways to improve my marketing.
• The custom is tailored towards writing, copywriting, and spoken communication. I would say all those areas are shining.
• Besides the creativity my self expression and interpersonal communication have improved. I’m finding myself asking better questions and having deeper more meaningful conversations.

The reason I went with RM over UA is because I didn’t want the sole focus on just writing. I wanted the focus on writing as a business. After reading through both sales descriptions on the main store I knew that RM was the right choice for me. @Floridianninja look at your goals and see which one aligns the most with you. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you so much

This has helped me figure out my main cores next is the modules… my custom is going to be a kitchen sink sadly lol

[SaintSovereign]

@Martin

Could people running ZP custom with a few healing modules confirm or infirm the idea that healing modules overtake other effects?

Having a bunch of emotional healing doesn’t really “overtake” other effects, per se. You just end up with a lot of recon, which clouds your ability to see the other positive changes. Those who run titles like this usually notices the improves during the washout.

[SaintSovereign]

@Invictus

Like let’s say in the custom I wanna make, if I swapped PCC for the Executive core, then would it be the Ultima core or ZP core?

Your order would go on hold. The ones that haven’t been converted aren’t even in the Q software right now.

[Trader]

Did you get an answer to this yet?

I’ve got 3 cores I’m considering asking about for a custom

[BLACKICE]

Not yet…

I also haven’t submitted a ticket yet though, as I was hoping to get a response from @SaintSovereign as he is likely to be more familiar with me personally than the support person. Unless they hired the support person from the forum, but that’s less likely.

To reiterate:

I accept that a random newbie probably wouldn’t do well with 3 cores in a ZP custom, my question was if I could handle it, with 2+ years of sub use under my belt, and virtually no recon to speak of.

I guess I could just order the sub and see if it passes the check… but, getting questions answered is nice lol.

[bombayduck]

@BLACKICE

I also haven’t submitted a ticket yet though, as I was hoping to get a response from @SaintSovereign as he is likely to be more familiar with me personally than the support person

Try a DM maybe? I’m pretty sure Saint gets @'ed 10 times a day so it could be easy to miss a few.

[SubliminalUser]

Has anyone had success running customs which feature Khan ST4 + another core on ZP?

[SaintSovereign]

@BLACKICE

I also haven’t submitted a ticket yet though, as I was hoping to get a response from @SaintSovereign as he is likely to be more familiar with me personally than the support person. Unless they hired the support person from the forum, but that’s less likely.

Guys, I’m reluctant to recommend 3 cores to anyone, as they can be very dense. Here’s the issue: the 3 core custom will feel really good at first, when it’s getting that initial hit of amazing scripting. As time goes by, however, and the healing stuff starts kicking in, you’re looking at a triple whammy of recon. That’s why we recommend staying away from too many cores. Gives you more space. Many of you are using customs to try and run five titles (three in the custom, two majors). This is ALOT of change at once. Be careful.

[AlexanderGraves]

@SaintSovereign

Having a bunch of emotional healing doesn’t really “overtake” other effects, per se. You just end up with a lot of recon, which clouds your ability to see the other positive changes. Those who run titles like this usually notices the improves during the washout.

Thanks for clearing that up!

Very important imo.

[AlexanderGraves]

@SaintSovereign

As time goes by, however, and the healing stuff starts kicking in, you’re looking at a triple whammy of recon.

I KNEW this was how it operates but I wasn’t sure.

I always felt initially the sub feels really good, right to external results. But after a few weeks, I get recon. Well, to me, it’s not so much recon as literally HEALING.
But anyway, that makes sense!

@SaintSovereign

Many of you are using customs to try and run five titles (three in the custom, two majors). This is ALOT of change at once. Be careful.

That’s me lol
Looking forward to that recon setting in next week, haha

In all seriousness, recon is good because after it’s done you feel SUPERgreat. But I did realise that some people manage to glide on a “sub-high” by constantly exposing themselves to the subs. (Some people being me) and once you get off it, you get hit HARD.
Or, after a week of washout and the recon sets in you get right back into the subs to get that “high” again.

Which is why I think what you told me in DM to once a year or something run a 4, or even 6-week washout is very helpful to finally give the subconscious time to work through all of it!

[BLACKICE]

Thanks @SaintSovereign! I guess that means AEM ZP would have only Emperor and EoG4 as cores then, removing RICH and IC.

Is Sultan a good enough swap for RICH, with EoG4 as a core?

[Malkuth]

Seems like there would be Hardware Recon and also Software Recon

Hardware recon : basic physical challenges of adapting to exposure to ANY subliminal

Software recon: challenges of adapting to the specific messages of a particular subliminal

Someone creates a script that says “Water is wet”.

They then use that script to create a ZP Terminus³ strength subliminal.

Hardware recon will be the result of the sheer intensity and power of the build strength.

Software recon (or Message recon), on the other hand, will be almost zero because of how easy it is to integrate the message of ‘Water is wet’.

Is this framing accurate, @SaintSovereign?

[Athanaxos]

@Invictus

Do you really think you need it ?

Well… maybe not - when you put it that way

I suppose it’s an emotional attachment to the idea I guess, since I dreamed about this sub after making a petition to Jove/Jupiter - and I kinda got stuck on it. I’ll give it some deeper thought. Although, I could use the help of being more focused and conscious (deliberate?) about my manifestation process, and the Jupiter module seems to help with that?

@Lion

What about removing Blue Skies? Must admit it seems a bit off in your custom. Any reason for including it?

Ah, I can see how it would seem like it, but I’m aiming for a manifestation custom and I think its a neat touch to it. First of all I didn’t want to change @Melior initial build since it seems to be working great for manifestation purposes. Secondly it’s a “love” module which is the energy I want to transmute. And in the description of it also mentions “push growth continuously”, and “to take the user’s cognitive, artistic/creative and spiritual abilities to the next level.” - So I think it has a role to fill

@AlexanderGraves

Damn I am digging the idea of maximising sexual energy but then transmuting it. You plan on journalling on the forum? Would love to read that!

Yeah I had the idea a while back but didn’t think more about how, and then reading about ItsSymphonie’s success with manifesting with his custom I figured it would be perfect for the job. I’ll write about it for sure (in black) but I won’t be getting it for another couple of months.