Main Disc. Thread - Zero Point Custom Build Questions

[SubliminalUser]

Has anyone had success running customs which feature Khan ST4 + another core on ZP?

[SaintSovereign]

@BLACKICE

I also haven’t submitted a ticket yet though, as I was hoping to get a response from @SaintSovereign as he is likely to be more familiar with me personally than the support person. Unless they hired the support person from the forum, but that’s less likely.

Guys, I’m reluctant to recommend 3 cores to anyone, as they can be very dense. Here’s the issue: the 3 core custom will feel really good at first, when it’s getting that initial hit of amazing scripting. As time goes by, however, and the healing stuff starts kicking in, you’re looking at a triple whammy of recon. That’s why we recommend staying away from too many cores. Gives you more space. Many of you are using customs to try and run five titles (three in the custom, two majors). This is ALOT of change at once. Be careful.

[AlexanderGraves]

@SaintSovereign

Having a bunch of emotional healing doesn’t really “overtake” other effects, per se. You just end up with a lot of recon, which clouds your ability to see the other positive changes. Those who run titles like this usually notices the improves during the washout.

Thanks for clearing that up!

Very important imo.

[AlexanderGraves]

@SaintSovereign

As time goes by, however, and the healing stuff starts kicking in, you’re looking at a triple whammy of recon.

I KNEW this was how it operates but I wasn’t sure.

I always felt initially the sub feels really good, right to external results. But after a few weeks, I get recon. Well, to me, it’s not so much recon as literally HEALING.
But anyway, that makes sense!

@SaintSovereign

Many of you are using customs to try and run five titles (three in the custom, two majors). This is ALOT of change at once. Be careful.

That’s me lol
Looking forward to that recon setting in next week, haha

In all seriousness, recon is good because after it’s done you feel SUPERgreat. But I did realise that some people manage to glide on a “sub-high” by constantly exposing themselves to the subs. (Some people being me) and once you get off it, you get hit HARD.
Or, after a week of washout and the recon sets in you get right back into the subs to get that “high” again.

Which is why I think what you told me in DM to once a year or something run a 4, or even 6-week washout is very helpful to finally give the subconscious time to work through all of it!

[BLACKICE]

Thanks @SaintSovereign! I guess that means AEM ZP would have only Emperor and EoG4 as cores then, removing RICH and IC.

Is Sultan a good enough swap for RICH, with EoG4 as a core?

[Malkuth]

Seems like there would be Hardware Recon and also Software Recon

Hardware recon : basic physical challenges of adapting to exposure to ANY subliminal

Software recon: challenges of adapting to the specific messages of a particular subliminal

Someone creates a script that says “Water is wet”.

They then use that script to create a ZP Terminus³ strength subliminal.

Hardware recon will be the result of the sheer intensity and power of the build strength.

Software recon (or Message recon), on the other hand, will be almost zero because of how easy it is to integrate the message of ‘Water is wet’.

Is this framing accurate, @SaintSovereign?

[Athanaxos]

@Invictus

Do you really think you need it ?

Well… maybe not - when you put it that way

I suppose it’s an emotional attachment to the idea I guess, since I dreamed about this sub after making a petition to Jove/Jupiter - and I kinda got stuck on it. I’ll give it some deeper thought. Although, I could use the help of being more focused and conscious (deliberate?) about my manifestation process, and the Jupiter module seems to help with that?

@Lion

What about removing Blue Skies? Must admit it seems a bit off in your custom. Any reason for including it?

Ah, I can see how it would seem like it, but I’m aiming for a manifestation custom and I think its a neat touch to it. First of all I didn’t want to change @Melior initial build since it seems to be working great for manifestation purposes. Secondly it’s a “love” module which is the energy I want to transmute. And in the description of it also mentions “push growth continuously”, and “to take the user’s cognitive, artistic/creative and spiritual abilities to the next level.” - So I think it has a role to fill

@AlexanderGraves

Damn I am digging the idea of maximising sexual energy but then transmuting it. You plan on journalling on the forum? Would love to read that!

Yeah I had the idea a while back but didn’t think more about how, and then reading about ItsSymphonie’s success with manifesting with his custom I figured it would be perfect for the job. I’ll write about it for sure (in black) but I won’t be getting it for another couple of months.

[Invictus]

@Athanaxos

but I’m aiming for a manifestation custom

Then you should look at the proposed custom I posted before called reality breaker

Here:

Main Disc. Thread - Zero Point Custom Build Questions

Strength: ZPT or maybe T^2 Name: Reality Breaker Purpose: once a week booster. Mind’s Eye core AsC core All-Seeing Awakened Perception Blue skies Chosen of Venus Everpresent* Inner Gasoline The Flow Carpe Diem Ascended* Current Invoker Deep Sleep DEUS Divine Will* Energetic Development XI Intuition Enhancer Joie de Vivre* Jupiter Omnidimensional Overdrive Pragya The ones with “*” are subject to change, with things like Yggdrasil, fortune’s favorite, or others you guys think that would fit h…

[Athanaxos]

@Invictus

reality breaker

Thank you! I’ll look into it for sure!

[Brandon]

Finished finalising my manifestation custom that friends here helped me make I just now have to make it. I left in the possibilities section for you just incase there’s stuff there for you (and others).

I checked with support to see if this was good to go for my situation and apparently it is.

CORES:

AsC
Minds Eye

MODULES:

Remembrance
Ebon Maneuver
Jupiter
Yggdrasil
Untouchable
Mountain Breaker
Current Invoker
Divine Will
Tyrant
Divine Self Image
Dominion
Mosaic
Inner Voice
Negativity Displacer
Natural Winner
Omnidimensional
Faith Unyielding
Unlimiter

Possibilities:

Gratitude Embodiment
Courage Reclaimed
Energetic Development
Awakened Perception
Attachment Destroyer
Februus
Faith Unyielding
The Merger of Worlds
Negativity Displacer
Praygya
Informaticon
Blue Skies

Edit: Forgot Chosen of Love is in there

[GoldenTiger]

I would go for the modules list you have, possibilities I would not look too much into it. I feel like it might dilute your custom.

[Invictus]

I could have sworn there was a post from @SaintSovereign about having the same modules in more than one custom, in the same stack, could cause recon due to overexposure, and yet I can’t find it anymore.

What is going on here

[Seeker]

I took look after you tagged me in your journal but I didn’t find anything. Do you remember any unique, wording from the post? Were any specific modules mentioned, was a specific topic mentioned?

[Invictus]

From what I remember, someone asked about having the same results enhancers in 2 custom subs (I think tyrant, omnidimensional, or Jupiter), and if it would cause any overload.

But just like you, not only was I searching in both custom threads and with the search feature, but I also went to Saint’s profile and checked all of his recent posts, all the way back to January, but guess what?
I couldn’t find it.

The only explanations I have are:

1- it was a vision that I saw and couldn’t differentiate it from reality (happened before when I thought Saint sent me a link to something, but he never did),

Or

2- it was a dream,

Or

3- I shifted to a reality where that post was never made yet

[bombayduck]

I was the one who initially asked that question here:

Main Disc. Thread - Zero Point Custom Build Questions

I’ve got a question regarding using 2 ZP customs: Is there a point in using the same module (let’s say Elegance) in 2 different ZP customs with differing goals, since ZP scripts are written from the “ground-up”? Or would I be getting the benefit of that module in one of the customs, and adding it in a 2nd custom would be redundant?

Never received an answer from Saint to my recollection, but perhaps scroll down and see what you can find.

[Invictus]

So I wasn’t dreaming

But I do remember a reply, but after scrolling all the way down (from your post), I couldn’t find anything from Saint

[Brandon]

I was replying to the person above me, I’ve already finalised my custom.

[Brandon]

I remember something like that also, I think it was a long while ago but don’t remember when. Pretty sure around the time customs first came out.

[Trader]

@Invictus

I could have sworn there was a post from @SaintSovereign about having the same modules in more than one custom, in the same stack, could cause recon due to overexposure, and yet I can’t find it anymore

This may be it

Main Disc. Thread - Zero Point Customs NOW LIVE

Theoretically, yes. But, I wouldn’t – just in case it proves to be too much. The Q store version is really for those who are running just ONE subliminal. No majors, nothing, just the custom. In your use case, it would be best if you run Ascension Chamber on the side.

[Invictus]

@Trader

This may be it

Hmmm

The weird thing is that I remember it being about modules (non core), and not the ascension chamber core.

Either way, I realized that it would probably be a good thing since they’re not major modules.