I just got a vivid scene whare a an army attempts to storm a castle by headbutting the walls…
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Wow this is amazing news, I’m really excited to try this out but also a little hesitant.
I know I shouldn’t but I tend to leave on the Qv2 loops of AM and WANTED throughout the day in my room and come in and out at various times throughout the day, so I’m probably exposing myself to significantly more than 2 loops and instead of a 1 on/1 off pattern I do more of a 3on/1off pattern that can be inconsistent (sometimes it’ll be 2 on/2 off, 4on/2off, etc.). I know it is said that less is more but if I feel like I could handle it, why not? My experience with Qv2 WANTED has been excellent (the same cannot be said completely for AM Qv2 but I blame myself more for that, though that is another story).
I guess I’ll use the listening program advised in the guide, though I am very tempted to do 2 loops of ZP, rest, 2 loops of Qv2 versus 1. We’ll see how it goes.
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It’s a “self-based” approach, though I understand what you mean. It’s like we were saying: the beauty of Zero Point is its contradictory nature of being both so simplistic and yet complex. If we were to show you the scripts, you would wonder how they are capable of creating such profound results, but the secrets behind how it works is what makes it so complex.
It works so well, and with minimal recon, because the inspiration is being generated from the self, not the subliminal. It’s also why everyone’s results will differ so greatly. You’ll see the clear commonalities – attraction from those that users find attractive, increased respect, overall sense of peace and happiness, etc. – but when you look at the nuances of those results (and the corresponding journeys), you’ll see that each and every one of us are actually walking down differing paths.
It’s why you’re going to see people constantly switching up their stacks and trying new things. You cannot fake authenticity and congruence with Zero Point. If you are running WANTED, but deep down inside, you really just want the perfect mate – a soulmate – you won’t respond like someone who wants to explore and push their sexuality to the extreme.
The traditional affirmation model is exceptionally limiting in this regard because it forces a “one size fits all” approach to everyone. That approach, and those who push it, fail to realize that you’re dealing with overlapping and highly integrated dynamic systems. You are a unique dynamic system, a creative expression of the universe itself. There will be others like you, but there will never be another YOU. How could there be? They say every 10 minutes or so, all of the molecules in your body will be replaced – there will never again (and yes, I know in a continuum of infinite probability, everything is possible) be someone who had those same molecules replaced at the exact same time, molecules that comprised a living, conscious entity.
As dynamic, unique individuals, we create and emanate dynamic systems. Society is one of those systems. We constantly both create and perceive society (as a system), which then influences your mindset (think again of the image of the torus).
Taking all this into consideration, did it ever really make sense to think all people would respond to a script full of static affirmations in the exact same way, and those who failed to respond would be told that they are just fearful of the script?
This is why, with Zero Point, we were bold enough to literally start over from scratch. To sit down, look at all the research we’ve accumulated (and we have YEARS of reports to work from) and just cast aside all of our hard work and say, “maybe we all got it wrong.” We know Qv2 works, and it works well – but what if there were a different way?
Zero Point will demand that same line of critical thought from you. It will relentlessly ask you if what you say you want is REALLY what you want. There’s no way to lie about it, no matter how hard you try, because the subliminal is doing very little. It’s simply an audio file with scripting. YOU are doing the hard work, as your personal reality (and the dynamic reality that emanates from you) is pushed through you, and as the classic lines indicates, it’s not the spoon that bends, it’s you that bends.
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Wow ,I didn’t get into details in my comment . regarding the 2 older people .
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one of them is a successful business man and I really consider him a role model . He opening to me and appreciating me is a stepping stone in our relationship .
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the other one is a father figure , deep inside I longed for his appreciation that’s why I liked he appreciating me sincerely .
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Beautiful. Very encouraging to hear about users switching stacks in this context; its no longer about being indecisive but finding what fits you best. I love that. I’m fascinated to see how that will work with stacking different subliminals; If I’m running multiple subs I suppose I’ll intuitively know which ones are synced with me or not…
I actually realized today after running PS zp for the first time its easy to feel the effects of different subs on this compared to Qv2…with wanted and chosen i felt seductive and warm. today i felt intense/sexual/free and wild. awesome stuff.
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When I tested Wanted ZP and ALZP the most socializing I did was on this forum. Zero desire to be social at all. Freaked a few people out
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I feel the same here. I have had so many coaches during the years, and some even told me I was uncoachable sometimes, I just hated being told what to do even if I paid for it 
I can see this skepticism coming from my moms behavior.
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You’re posts about hard gainers is connecting a lot of dots for me, I totally sound like what you describe too. Social media is also one I’ve never really cared for, always felt more like “social engineering” to me lol.
I don’t know how common this trait is for other hard gainers but I find that I will do deep dives into topics that catch my interest, it could be anything. Like say a movie or TV series I like, I’ll research the director, how it’s inception happened, the cinematography etc. But when I’m in this mode, I find that the ideas or people I’m researching will have a large impact on me. This reminded me of your gate keeper metaphor, it’s like doing the deep dive opened that gate up. Now I can’t say what it is that triggered the deep dive other than whatever it was just interested me. Maybe it just aligned with a preexisting thing I wanted or a belief.
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I saw aha, I used it the second it came out 
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Thank you for always thinking of me!
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Holy Goalie.
I’m glad I read this thread even though I’m not running WANTED.
That was some serious food for thought.
Also makes me wonder about the correlation between "Hypnotizability’ and openness to subliminal programs.
I can say though that even before the arrival of ZP, my openness has been increasing over the 1.5-2 years of working with Sub Club subliminals. In September, I was a subject in a hypnosis partner exercise, and I experienced an unmistakeable state change. That was amazing to me. Usually, I’d just sit and listen to what the person was saying, and maybe attempt to try to make it real.
3 days ago in my morning meditation, without any stimulus other than music playing, I felt myself easily transition into a light trance, and again felt ‘Hmm…that’s interesting’, which didn’t break the trance.
So exposure over time and willingness to have the experience also will have their effects.
And now ZP may hopefully make the process even easier.
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Was about to ask the same.
@SaintSovereign would you say that a person who isn’t suggestible to hypnosis and not a great subject is more likely to be a hardgainer in terms of subs?
I’ll be honest and say that this is something in me that I really needs to be addressed.
11 minutes in WANTED. Feeling sensations down there, my jaw is hurting a little (physical shifting?) and spine hurts a little in a positive way. Happy about this 
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Yeah, we had similar effects during the test. Jaw, nose, muscles like abs, bones, el cajones. Drink and eat well then get some good rest.
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I listened to Wanted today in the morning (about 10 hours ago), and during the track a voice in my head suddenly went “I am Wanted”.
This cute staff at the clinic that I am working in as a locum told me at the end of the day to stay put as a locum and not go to another country to work.
A patient requested to see me next week because she felt incredible from the first session we had 2 days ago. (this was before I listened to Wanted, but still an interesting observation)
And the Solace mask sounds so much better than the classic masked water droplets.
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I just “wanted” to say: Welcome back, remember you from many months ago. Nice new avatar.
And to stay on topic: Yes, I enjoy the “Solace mask” also better than the old sounds.
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Thank you very much. I remember you too 
One of the things that made me stray from using subliminals is the duration of them. Q and Qv2 subs were an hour long, so I found it very hard to stick to a 3 title stack lasting 3 hours. and that’s not even considering the recon.
Now that Saint and Fire have done such an incredible job cutting each ZP title to 15 mins, it makes listening so much easier.
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Awesome thread!
so i have a report on wanted ZP first use yesterday before a date with a woman im seeing.
The resturaunts agents offered us a free first meal And a free dessert just like that.
and my date offered to pay 90% of the meal with a cupon she has. which was mind blowing
she also called me very sexy while we were waiting for the food.
later we made out in my car and she whispered in my ear “if i wasnt in this time of the month i would rape you in your place” 
I was both surprised and shocked hahha anyways
so far so good, its just my first loop
im gonna stack it with Paragon ZP and report more
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Today was amazing! Oh boy where to start :), I had an amazing day with my father full of fun times and banter. We went out drinking coffee and had a good talk. I helped him out with some stuff then at home I noticed that I don’t find myself really having coquettish behavior, I always thought of myself as kind of bland/dry.
I started wondering what coquettish behavior is and the game of hot and cold. After sending out some dm’s and youtube(shared this in emperor lounge) I started to notice within myself that I was more playful and sometimes my humor was teasing and I noticed more laughter(which I am happy about!). Then when someone called I noticed that my conversation would go from teasing to connecting to indifference. This seems to be developing( I am still afraid that my jokes won’t land well) and I am happy about the progress, I wonder how much better I will get at this.
Also, I have noticed that I haven’t watched porn ever since I started ZP, neither did I have the desire to do so. Overall a good day full of progress.
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