Can you tell us more about the results you are getting from IC?
Never used it
FWIW, I don’t usually begin to feel any effects from any sub till at least min of 2 weeks in.
I know some folks already start reporting results after 1 loop, but for me I usually don’t really “feel” the sub kick in till first washout/start of 2nd cycle.
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Very well said.
Personally, the time it takes for a sub to enter “the next stage” is usually around 3-4 months for me. Some like HeO & DRR3 took me around 6 months until they “clicked” properly.
Everyone’s response duration is different. Take your time.
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can you describe “the next stage” a bit more? Can you give examples of what it meant with subs you used?
Yes, as in the effects are getting deeper.
E.g.
- The first few months of Mogul were alright, i got some extra income but nothing significant, but after crossing that, the wealth effects finally kicked in for real and I started to get significant results.
- LBFH started to deepen its effect exactly when I started cycle 4. It was as if it finally finished chipping a wall, and the healing finally burst in. I was able to love & accept myself more fully from then on.
- HeO’s virtue scripting finally “clicked” a bit later than the others, but the sub went from “this fits me” to “this is the best, most fulfilling sub I’ve ever used”.
And many more.
The last one was DRR3 finally clicking after almost half a year. It’s worth sticking with a sub for long.
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Some additional results sometimes come to the surface too after that long. Like the patience scripting in HeO finally surfacing. The description didn’t even say that this scripting exists, but it was so prominent after I crossed that timeframe that I asked saint if there’s patience scripting in the sub, and he confirmed it.
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this is how you are able to run DRR3 for close to two years haha
Thank you for elaboration!
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Yep, sometimes I forgot that I wasn’t “this way” before some subs like LBFH & HeO. When used long enough, the changes do stay even if you haven’t used the sub again for a long time.
(btw, it’s DRR as a whole for 1y7m, DRR3 itself only 7m, lol)
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Lol for sure, thanks. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t the only one cuz yeah it seems like everyone else has been getting kickass results, whereas I’ve seemingly just been getting recon.
Why not. WDB/ EmpD custom + LotS. 7m each.
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Actually I was allways proud to have very good social skills but Inner Circle shows me a new way of being and bringing value.
For example :today I visited someone, we agreed for a walk,so we go walking wit his dog. We both smoked Oregano and walked.
Before IC you could bring me to the point of checking out mentally after the 3rd time I get asked something and after starting to explain my momentary view the talking partner changes the subject with other questions that has nothing to do with the starter question. I can not even ask a question back and we are allready somwhere else. I get pissed internaly and ramp up the Anger to the point I could scream : if you wanna hear my point, then lisen and stay on topic.
And then the shit don’t calm down, I stay in anger until I go but this time I had the anger state but refused to give in, instead I try to catch him where he is: wordsalat
I figured out that i am pretty good at making a insalata mista and garnish the salad with many toppings and have fun with it.
So I traded serious anger of not getting heard–to-- let’s have fun and a memory that enriches both of our lives.
I loosen up, relax and enjoy the moment with the person I talk to.
Also a urge to better myself socially
I have alot to learn in this department
And somehow the right people find me
Let’s go
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Not seen much in terms of results so far with the lots/wdb/khan black. Its the second week using the custom… In comparison to my wb/asbr stacked with my lots/spartan/khan black which absolutely rocked.
Why do you suggest Emp D ?
Been month on WDB EmpD
I never ran any of these before
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I agree.
With authenticity scripting in WDB, after experience and know your authenticity in seduction and relationship, but “WDB prepares you for WB or even Wanted”? is not correct question.
The correct question and concern are that:
- Is Wanted or Wanted Black the suitable seductive style for me after I know my authenticity from WDB?
- Or another seductive title is much better after I know my authenticity from WDB?
But people are people, all has freewill. After knowing your authenticity, it’s up to your on decision to “acknowledge” and “accept” your authenticity and choose the correct seductive style. This is easy yet the most difficult decision for everyone .
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How is the erectile quality in WDB? Is it on par with PN?
Is there a benefit to adding PN to WDB? Or WDB already include full PN?
Might try Wanted one of these days see how I react to it, I have a bit of an avoidant attachment style.
I get what you are saying.
When I say that “I don’t identify with the WDB archetype”, this is my ego speaking.
Ego is often wrong, the only way to know whether this archetype is really for me or not for me, is to actually run the title and get a personal feeling for it.
Sometimes what when we think “it’s not me”, it is actually me, lol.
Analogy example:
Ego might think that “dancing is not fun and not for me”.
But then actually trying out dancing in real life, you discover that it is actually fun and exactly what I want in life…
Hence, why regardless of what my ego believes about my “true archetype”, the only way to really find out is to try that archetype out.
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I used to be avoidance attachment too.
Most people in cities and modern society are anxious or avoidant, extreme cases will be anxious avoidant and Psychopaths.
Knowing my avoidant attachment, I have been trying hard to overcome and outgrow it.
While listening to Heartsong, I notice I tend to attract anxious girls and sometimes avoidant girls. It so hurtful to realize that I must learn to become secure attachment first before finding relationship.
A long but clear way to go. I try WDB for 2 or 3 cycles to see how it can help me to become more secure.
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I don’t know, I’m 25, my erection is always good 
