I seem to get less recon from longer loops. Is it possible I was getting “recon” from microloops because I subconsciously felt I wasn’t getting enough scripting?..
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This seems like it would have been great in WDB as a normal part.
NPSE I ran in a custom with Hero: Earth previously and SPS
It really does change my experience of my body. It was the first time I started to feel really good about it and really feel it was possible to shift.
Wanted Black helps that a lot as well. I have had incredible strength gains and muscle gain on Beast, Heracles, but in terms of feeling, I look good, NPSE, and Wanted Black helped the most. That’s also where I see the most body fat composition changes.
Yea, I wish they just said penis- I know its not but it just lands like plausible deniability to me in th copy and when talked about.
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Yes
Other than less recon what are the results on longer loops for you like?
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Since folks asked results that are more than just “breadcrumbs of interest”, here’s how I went from zero plans this weekend to bar-hopping and rolling up with a date to a sex-club / nude-spa party:
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Saw a post about the sex-club event on Sunday. I don’t usually go out Sundays, but it’s a long weekend, so my interest was peaked.
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A friend posted she was going. I sent her a teasing text about following through on some “rough” fantasies we planned. She dared me to try. I accepted the challenge.
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Got invited into a Discord full of her friends who are going. Now I know more people, and the whole thing feels a lot more appealing.
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Saw another post about a bar event that same day. it’s in the same neighborhood and friends RSVP’ed. Here’s the real game changer. Now I can unwind, socialize and pregame before the big event.
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Before bed I post an open invite: bar first, nude hot tub after. Wake up to multiple replies.
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Suddenly my Sunday is stacked.
Saint talked about opportunities, synchronicity and patterns a lot, but you don’t get how powerful they are until you actually take action. WDB hits hardest when I act outside my comfort zone:
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I ask women out I hit a 9/10 average this year
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I slide into my crush’s DM and turns out he’s in town next week. Wants to meet up
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I saw openings and act on them. Now I’ve got a full damn weekend
Tldr; WDB will manifest so many opportunities. It’s up to you to recognize and act on them.
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Maybe just proximity and feeling like women are comfortable around me. But yeah ZERO urge to approach, so maybe that means approaching is actually out of character for me/not my style, or maybe I just don’t give af anymore (or at this moment anyway). Like I haven’t been focused on going out and “gaming” this cycle.
^This seems to be true, I haven’t been acting on anything though. I feel “too good” for it or something lol.
Oh, this may or may not be relevant, but in the last two weeks I’ve deleted and am actively avoiding all forms of porn.
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Feel I should elaborate. I feel some folks aren’t hitting their stride with Dream Boy or even New Wanted because they’re waiting for something to happen. The idea that being ‘wanted’ means women should be approaching you. Period. That can certainly happen. But when all you’re doing is waiting for something to happen, you loss any control over those circumstances. Recognizing opportunities and acting on them, no matter how small, builds momentum towards the outcome you want.
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I think you’re touching on something crucial here.
I’ve actually found that I get significantly better and more consistent results since I started focusing on my conscious affirmations and speaking patterns, rather than just passively relying on the sub. I’m not saying the sub doesn’t work, but it needs ‘Conscious Alignment.’
Think about it: if the sub is trying to build a ‘Dream Boy’ vibe, but your daily internal monologue or the way you talk to your friends about women is still stuck in the old ‘gaming’ or ‘struggle’ mindset—you’re basically driving with the handbrake on.
I noticed that when I stopped over-analyzing the input and simply changed my conscious thoughts and speech patterns, women started gravitating towards me naturally. Flirting didn’t feel like a ‘tactic’ anymore; it just happened.
We create our reality both Consciously and Subconsciously. If your conscious mind is going against what you’re trying to manifest, it creates that ‘zero urge’ or friction you’re feeling. Maybe try to audit your self-talk for a few days and see if it matches the ‘New You’ you’re trying to build.
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I agree 100% with what you said.
When I was using R.I.C.H: Trader, I became very aware of certain situations and patterns. But I realized that awareness alone wasn’t enough, my subconscious needed alignment through my conscious thoughts and reactions.
Instead of just passively listening, I started guiding my state deliberately. I would reflect, meditate on the shifts, and adjust my self-talk accordingly. A few hours later, everything felt calm, grounded, and deeply aligned, and the results were honestly surreal.
That’s when I understood that the sub is powerful, but conscious alignment accelerates everything.
In a few months I’ll probably start WDB as well. It seems like a solid sub, especially if paired with intentional mindset work.
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I found this made it much easier for me to ask people out. I’d built up so much internal validation and resilience that I felt detached from the outcome. It didn’t matter if they said yes or no, I was gonna have a great time regardless. They knew they’d be missing out.
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I like to subtly flirt or if they are really invested then more openly, and get them to a point of them wanting to ask for more contact, or finding a subtle way of asking.
I absolutely hate pumping someone elses ego so i will never openly give them that chance for it.
Uh…My crush just slide into my DMs and asked me out to dinner on Valentine’s Day.
Ask me to pick the location.
They’re coming out to see me.
Mad horny. Calling me daddy.
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That’s some cool results right here!
Looks like WDB is delivering to you more with each cycle.
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I love everything that makes a woman truly woman…
Last night we were messaging, and she said: You’re in love
I asked: Is that a question… or a statement?
She replied: A statement.
I didn’t deny it. Why would I? its true.
Every time I’m with her, time slows to a hush. We sink into each other timeless, effortless, wrapped in that space where nothing else exists but us.
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I’ll do a full write up later cause the date isn’t over yet. Here’s what tou really wanna know
We’re two hours late for our reservation…for reasons
Edit: we kept having sex. I has to spell this out for my kink friends lol
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I’m seeing a lot of results here!
Remember that every one is at different stages here. This is an international forum, with people from different levels of experiences with all areas of life.
For WDB, some men are going to be thrilled to notice that women are looking at them and smiling. For others, it’s going to be that one women is finally talking excitedly to them. Other men are going to be having more dates.
So please, don’t hand wave away your results. And don’t hand wave away other men’s results.
We all start some where. Keep posting your results, whatever they might be.
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This is the “step up” some were looking for. It took a lot of IOIs, getting comfortable with being desired, feeling chill and practising “the space before…” to jump into that massive step.
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Wouldnt the endgame of a romance title be peak romance experience with ideal women and sex being part of that experience but not the endgame, theres plenty sex subs that are specifically oriented to having as much sex as possible.
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I have been super attractive at times using law of attraction without subliminals
Creating experiences few men would ever experience.
So that’s hard to describe what I mean and expect from the subliminal titles.
How would I describe and explain something most men would never experience?
If we do go there I’ll need a lot of time to think and tell some of the stories I had in my life which were like a movie.
And no - not like a “dream boy character” I’m talking about a raw movie like from Entourage as the main character…
Think about women literally say “I was watching you for an hour and wanted to talk to you” and you know, you don’t think, you don’t second guess, you KNOW you will have sex or at least she wants you like NOW.
No guessing not much to say or flirt about even though flirting will just happens naturally and you take you time.
You might talk or drink or have fun.
You don’t even need to say much. She will do most of the talking.
If you say something somehow and you don’t even know how it was the right thing to say.
It’s either funny, smart or interesting
SHE wants to follow YOU on Instagram. Then she takes you phone writes her number and calls herself just so she would have your number too.
She’s actually one of the most beautiful girls around (bar, club whatever)
Yes you needed to approach or at least start a conversation first.
But you knew she wanted you to - you saw her looking at you and you read her mind again and again even when you talk.
Her eyes and yours just connect. It’s not a surprise to you - it’s not even that exciting because it happened to you before.
Last week with another one.
They all see that moment as special.
For you it’s just a Friday night or a Monday morning.
Some will not like you at all.
Some will not give their number so easily.
With some you don’t even know if they want you at all. But some will actually talk with their friends in front of you like you can’t hear it and say “He’s hot right?!” You know you’re not necessarily that hot.
You know you’re not that muscular or handsome. But they see you differently. You don’t even know why.but they think you’ve always been that way.
Another story I had: two women, sisters.
Both married - because, well, you are not attractive just to young girls or women but also to older women too. The more attractive one flirts, I mean , a lot! She actually says she’s free to do as she pleases with you even though she’s married.
She says that she like you. Later while you talk to the sister she says “you like my sister more don’t you? I bet you do! They all do! All men prefer her over me” while you didn’t even say anything sexual or weird just had a normal conversation.
Time passes THEY offer YOU drinks. Yes you are the prize… No need to buy or pay for anything. You know you could have her just there and then but you chose not to…
So sorry for my long answer, when you had such experiences you don’t really care for some “IOIs” because you experienced them all the time. And when you didn’t and you happen to talk to some girls they would say things you never imagined even in your dreams without doing anything.
So that’s what I’m looking for in a subliminal.
Not just IOIS but being the guy I know I can be when I just affirm my reality as such a guy.
Why do I want it from a title or a subliminal? Because programing your conscious/subconscious mind takes time and effort.
I’d rather play a 1 minute subliminal.
However not such a program gave me even 20% of what I experienced with something else YET.
And I hope I will experience it.
For now micro loops go better with law of attraction exercises for me now rather than using full loops.
Hope I answered your question.
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The endgame is when you decide you don’t need the sub anymore.
If sex was my endgame, I would’ve stopped dream boy last night. If desirablity was my endgame, I would’ve stopped after my first single. If physical shifting was my endgame I was stopped 2 weeks ago. My endgame is self improvement. Everyday I’m making major milestones. When I feel that i can’t develop any further or what I need is beyond the scope of the sub, then I’ve hit the endgame.
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Has anyone had results where women comment on your natural scent?
@SaintSovereign Does WDB have one scent?