I got the talks of it from my girl way before it, and I used to tell Saint privately about how many are interested and I am juggling.
I mean my bday alone, I got blowjobs back to back from girls, was only WDB 
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I can personally say that on WB I still could approach, like I’d just walk up and talk. On WDB, I feel like doing cold approach is out of the question. Maybe that’s “authentic” for me?
On Dream Boy women seem more comfortable around me, like women approaching me at the gym and asking how many sets I have left (which doesn’t usually happen), but I don’t think I see much in terms of attraction. On WB I got looks almost everywhere I went and just felt like the sexiest guy in the room everywhere, but I do actually feel more “authentic” on Dream Boy, like I’m more just doing my thing and being myself, but not really getting attraction (or maybe I am, idk)… Very different vibes to me.
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I realise I’ve been spamming this thread with IOI reports out of excitement and thought they would be useful to read, but I guess you’re right - sex is the end goal when you boil it down and until that happens then maybe move the IOI reports off this thread.
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I disagree. I feel it’s a narrow way of seeing things that disregards personal development, healing and growth.
If all I wanted was sex, I could get that today with no sub attached. Hell, I’ve turned down more people than I slept with since starting dream boy. I run this sub to overcome issues with external validation, heal relationship trauma and understand what is it that supermodels, descendents of dethroned royalty and millionaire heiress saw in me. Sex is the easy part. Healing and shadow work is tough.
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I think WDB is THE MOST foundational title in the store.
So if u want to call it a beginner, go ahead, because it could start you at a beginner level and be applicable all the way until mastery and beyond.
But I think it’s a foundational title because before you put on an archetype, you should spend time just 100% being yourself with WDB to see which parts of “you” are most natural for you in seduction and which you want to modify.
Kind of like getting a natural fitness assessment to see what to work on, before training isolated elements of your performance
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I know one heiress from a very wealthy fortune 500 company, the guy shes with is among the lowest possible value for men xd so much so her family forbid her to marry him despite having kids.
Regardless of position in life girls are girls like any many other whether poor or rich could behave the same, the high tier character development is what matters and more rare to find.
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Is this just like a canon event we’ve all had? Rofl
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WDB does indeed feel unexpectedly foundational.
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Not what I was getting at but fair enough.
Well, Wanted and Wanted Black are also authentic and being yourself, also Crown and Capital have foundational elements (the crown).
So I don’t think it’s absolutely necessary to start with WDB, although it may be beneficial.
I ran WDB for some time and I really love the just being myself, but today I started a new cycle and I’m doing WB instead of WDB.
Edit:
I do feelore ready for WB after running WDB, I’m still starting at 15s, I did WB in the past with good results at full loops but the recon was too much.
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Since WB is mainly aura and WDB is a bit more well rounded, i really see them being stackable. Much less exposure to WB timed specifically when you want the auras, before nights out etc, while having an ongoing WDB presence
Didn’t know that.
Thank you for clarifying.
I thought it has to do with your custom now I see it’s probably WDB.
@Michel you input has been great help in this thread! And I love reading your reports.
I’m always curious to understand if what you experience is also the open road for Sex and being a fuckboy. Having sex made easy…
IOIs are/could be the prerequisitrs for life full of sex with many women. However it doesn’t promise it because attracting IOIs not necessarily make a guy “sex worthy”.
That’s why I wrote it.
Feel free to write about what ever you want don’t change yourself for me or anyone else man do what you feel is right.
And report back on the end goal as well it could help us as well.
There’s only one reason I would run any “romance” titles and the reason is to be the guy who could easily choose the girls he can be with.
Basically creating abundance reality.
Example: I know a guy who when we talks to women they just want him here and now.
He doesn’t look better than the average guy but he has this aure to him.
For some people shadow work comes easily and sex might not be so of an easy part.
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dude @Invictus would get this on any sub /sub stack attraction related.
It’s his reality and worldview. He ran Wanted and Wanted Black and Khan for a long time. He also has a strong career focus. All these subs can created results it’s just finding a groove, and sticking with something long enough to transform and see it. This is generic advice not to you specifically.
Actually that’s the greatest gift of subs to me, breaking into a new worldview or reality. It’s hard to go back from there no matter what subs you run or don’t
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WB is not only aura, also a lot of inner work.
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Well, I thought of commenting on this previously. IOI’s are DEFINITELY results. And so is inner growth and healing, and feeling more confident and all that good stuf. So I wouldn’t discount that, but yes, at the end of the day, wealth subs make money, and Romance subs lead to sex/relationships. I think having that orientation is important as a result if that is why you are running that sub
I agree here as well, hearing, noticing, and accounting the positive things this helps (even outside of IOIs) .
@Michel For me personally, I would love to hear about where you had results moving things forward, or where you risked something and ‘failed’/ it didn’t work. Asking someone out, going for a kiss, etc. (taking an approriate next step where it feels right or you’ve been less comfortable venturing there before)I think that is just as important as something working out. So please feel free to report that as well! Who knows, you may surprise yourself with more positive reports as well 
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Not @Michel (sorry that you’re getting so many tags) but I had a nice result today. I was talking with a customer and she was super open and comfortable. When I left and let my female coworker take over for a bit, she became more closed off and stone faced with her arms crossed. After I came back and started talking she lit up again and opened up immediately.
My long-term goal isn’t sex, so naturally my results are going to express differently than what other people want, and that’s fine. But a result’s a result.
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Same. I focus on connection and personal development.
And if you look at the new instructions, @Michel’s on point. He’s noticing patterns, leaning into them and taking actions. We’re seeing steady progress unfold, which is bound to last.
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Agree, IOI reports are valid.
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The first 2 weeks on wdb:
- I have a fun and relaxed vibe with everyone that I meet.
- I’m just more social overall with all of my old friends, even random strangers we just have an instant connection vibe
- women and men just calm down and relax in my presence like their guard is down
- there were a few instances of attraction here in there, but as it was not in my face like in new wanted or wanted black, I didn’t notice it properly.
- I have become a lot closer with my friends, my family, even my office colleagues, people just share a lot of really deep, personal stuff about their lives and I always have an appropriate response for it.
- i also have a fun playful vibe with random strangers , it’s like I’m in the game or something
Ever since the third week:
- a lot more blatant stares of attraction, I believe it was because I was able to resolve an internal misunderstanding, about just being myself and then the results started kicking in.
- I also more consciously relax now like I could just feel the relaxation in my nerves and my posture, it that has helped a lot with the vibe
- some of my colleagues even said like bro I’m sure you have a girlfriend. When are you gonna get married?
- people also open up a lot about their problems in their relationships and lives . I just offer a gentle comforting ear. No need for responses. Just relax and go with the flow.
- haven’t gone to too many social situations since I’m busy with work, but right now I can almost date anyone at work who’s single cause i have such a fun and relaxed Vibe with all the girls.
- and a girl at work casually asked if I’m looking for a relationship.
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Perfect point , the end game is what matters not little breadcrumbs of interest lol
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