Main Disc. Thread - Wanted Black: Seduce Reality (Now Available!) (Custom Core Available)

[Sub.Zero]

Whatever, mate.

[RockyHandsome]

@SaintSovereign

But be warned, must people’s minds are so conditioned to hide their shadow and project it instead that it can be EXTREMELY difficult to go very deep.

My limited understanding of the shadows is it represent facets of your authentic self that you refuse to acknowledge right which stems from fear ?. I think I know this because I felt that initially when running ASBR. However when I coupled this with BL and TB its been much easier to resonate with ASBR.

Why is that ?

[Sub.Zero]

@SaintSovereign

We tell people that the potentials that helps Zero Point brings out is already within them, and they refuse to believe it.

I see it clearly on Primal and SSX. I’ve always known that I had all it takes to be an ultra social and political “animal”, charmer and seducer, and this is what Primal, TWTP and SSX unlocked almost instantly by widening the doorway between my mind and my reality. Now I’ve been seeing only gradual progress in the aforementioned aspects.

I intuit that what unlocked those potentialities was a powerful subconscious focus aimed at unlocking them, the scripting caused that, of course.

The greatest thing is I can finally tap into those potentialities, and even expand them. I see it every day now.

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Thank you… I’m grateful to you, guys, for that amazing tech.

[Sub.Zero]

@SaintSovereign

Helping you “just be yourself” is the main mechanism of Zero Point.

@SaintSovereign

The issue is that most of you don’t know who the hell you even are.

Well, of course, I don’t know the mechanism nor do I attempt to make any guess, and I’m not referring to that mechanism right now, but I’m just doing philosophies (Ontology, to be precise) mixed with classical logic to say that the nature of “just being” is passive (inherently inactive “physically”, and limited to self-awareness and subjective epistemology) and entirely succumbs to changes imposed on it by external influences/events, filtered by its subjective epistemology (an individual way of experiencing and understanding). However, that “state” of being is never static nor permanent but is in fact a process, the never-ending process of becoming something else than it is right here and right now, in this moment.

How it applies to ZP?

As, I said I don’t know the mechanics and I can base my conclusion on my individual subliminal experience only, yet I can tell that ZP aids you in becoming towards yourself (towards your perfect/ideal self, someone you’re meant to be, towards your “destiny”) which is a perpetual transformation highly based on self-discovery (discovering your perfect/ideal self, someone you’re meant to be, your “destiny”) which is also a never-ending process. On top of that, there’re also “intellectual, volitive, and physical movements” (aka action) which are strongly aided by ZP and constitute the transformation. That’s how I experience the very core of ZP.

I wonder if it was more “practical” if the focus of ZP was more on becoming than being. That’s the whole point I’m making criticizing the idea of “just being”. And again, maybe ZP is already optimized in its focus on becoming as I don’t know the mechanics. I’m just sharing, as always.

[RVconsultant]

@Fire

If someone wants to run Wanted Black and is not ready for it, they need to take a gradual, step by step approach: Genesis/Ascension → Emperor → Wanted/Khan → Wanted Black.

@AnswerGroup

Requesting more decision trees such as this. Perhaps a support article.

[Malkuth]

@Sub.Zero

I’m just doing philosophies (Ontology, to be precise) mixed with classical logic to say that the nature of “just being” is passive (inherently inactive “physically”, and limited to self-awareness and subjective epistemology) and entirely succumbs to changes imposed on it by external influences/events, filtered by its subjective epistemology (an individual way of experiencing and understanding). However, that “state” of being is never static nor permanent but is in fact a process, the never-ending process of becoming something else than it is right here and right now, in this moment.

How it applies to ZP?

I see it differently.

Granted, terms like ‘Just being’ can potentially be interpreted in many, many different ways, but if we’re getting practical about this, I would say that, in the context of this discussion, it does not really refer to a ‘passive ontological state of no action’.

The person who is stuck and who needs help discovering ‘who they really are’ is not necessarily ‘taking no action’ or being inactive.

The person may be taking copious action. The problem is their action is out of INTEGRITY.

Try thinking less unitively about human ontology and epistemology.

In other words, don’t think of one person as equaling ‘one thing’.

We are much more like ‘committees’ than like pure individuals. One person is like a group of many forces and parts that are striving for coordination.

And typically to achieve that sense of coordination, we take many shortcuts. Rather than doing the work of figuring out how to healthily include a given part of ourself, we take the shortcut of just ignoring that part and pretending it’s not even there.

That’s how we’re, typically, ‘Not being ourselves’. And the truth is, this ‘not being oneself’ takes a whole lot of energy (and ‘Action’) to do.

The payoff however is that it’s simpler and faster to achieve and also it creates a convincing illusion of Certainty. That’s pretty seductive in itself. Which is why it’s so normal to do it.

Enter Zero Point.

Zero Point is like a coach or diplomat who ‘handshakes’ with and is friendly to all 100, 200, or 300 members that make up this Committee of You.

It encourages them to take the time and to do the necessary creative work to include more of their voices, their attributes, and their priorities into that final picture that receives the label of ‘Me’.

This requires more initial work, but leads ultimately to a much more satisfying result, because it better reflects MORE of who you are, MORE of the potential that was always laying, immanent and unused, within you.

Zero Point improves the teamwork—the creative communication and effective coordination—between the parts that make up what and who you are

So it’s not a case of Action versus No Action; it’s a case of Higher-quality Action vs. Lower-quality Action.

(Of course, all of this is opinion.)

[Sub.Zero]

@Malkuth

We are much more like ‘committees’ than like pure individuals. One person is like a group of many forces and parts that are striving for coordination.

And typically to achieve that sense of coordination, we take many shortcuts. Rather than doing the work of figuring out how to healthily include a given part of ourself, we take the shortcut of just ignoring that part and pretending it’s not even there.

That’s how we’re, typically, ‘Not being ourselves’. And the truth is, this ‘not being oneself’ takes a whole lot of energy (and ‘Action’) to do.

The payoff however is that it’s simpler and faster to achieve and also it creates a convincing illusion of Certainty. That’s pretty seductive in itself. Which is why it’s so normal to do it.

That’s the single best insight I’ve ever read on the forums and it has really profound practical implications for working with ZP.

Our mind is not a singular stream but a vast ocean of our unique plurality that is always craving, and striving for singularity. However, often it’s satisfied with the feel of singularity, attained through self-deception.

The task for ZP would be working with that vast plurality, beyond the self-deception, in order to facilitate the movement towards the singularity, or, using your nomenclature, the movement towards the higher levels of coordination.

Our job is to identify those elements that would need support in that movement, target them with ZP, and work on them.

Just my understanding.

[NatureDad]

“Given that Wanted Black’s aura is very much one of “I’m just trying to smash,” between that and the free will scripting, there’s no need to be deceitful when engaging in a sexual relationship.”

I’m wondering about this part of the description, on one hand, I love the whole “just be the best version of yourself” description, along with pretty much 95% of the description (charisma, fun, intimacy, unforgettable etc.), on the other hand, I’m a certified hopeless romantic and do not want to give off fuckboy vibes… Stacking with heartsong in hope to turn this to the aura of a long lasting lover.

Maybe primal will do the trick, hmm…

[Prioritas]

@NatureDad

I’m a certified hopeless romantic and do not want to give off fuckboy vibes…

So am I, and it is certainly tricky when this sub brings out that fuckboy side of you that you know you have but think you shouldn’t have, and then trying to balance that with people-pleasing/romantic tendencies

At least it was tricky for me lol

[NatureDad]

I think I’ll just get primal, everything about the description seems to fit me most, honestly even two years ago primal was the one that intruiged me most, back when the subs didn’t budge me…

So I guess now that it’s upgraded with the new NSE it’s time for me to finally get it and replace WB… which means my triple stack after the washout days will be stark black, primal and heartsong. excited

[Prioritas]

@NatureDad

stark black, primal and heartsong.

That sounds like an incredible stack man! Enjoy

[NatureDad]

thanks man

[unusualfellow]

It’s all about how we think about and define reality in our brain… even the term “f*ckboy,” it could be a pejorative term or simply a man who loves and is loved by women… and physically so… I choose to define my world through that lens and I am a long term & constant user of Wanted/Black.

[NatureDad]

While true, I still think that after reading primal’s description, there’s a solid chance it’ll fit me better Already bought it so I may aswell give it a shot… gonna do that right after my washout days end this weekend.

[unusualfellow]

Primal sounds awesome. I would love to try it but my “plate” is full

[Sub.Zero]

@Sub.Zero

In the face of the recent shifts related to my sexuality I feel I need a spiritual title related to romance, sex and seduction to embrace that whole magnificent transformation, and to foster it, naturally. There’s no better sub for the job than WB that offers a really wide array of internal and external growth, the kind of growth I feel I need the most right now, and for the foreseeable future. On top of that, since WB got released I’ve known that it was my ultimate sub, addressing ultra accurately my way of being->seducing reality.

My stack is WB+SSX+TB from now on.

Stay tuned, guys, it’s going to be an amazing journey. I just know it!

[NatureDad]

heyo, saw you used primal previously, now WB, I’m wondering, how do you compare the two? I’ll probably switch WB to primal in my stack after washout days (stark black, heartsong, wb → primal)

Do you think primal and WB stack well together? (if you tried, had hard times finding people that stacked em)

[Sub.Zero]

@NatureDad

saw you used primal previously, now WB, I’m wondering, how do you compare the two?

I’ve just run the very first loop of WB so I cannot tell just yet.

@NatureDad

Do you think primal and WB stack well together?

I’m sorry but I gave up on advising people. I share my experiences and insights only. Please, submit a ticket with your inquiry.

[SwagKing]

Chiming in a little. You have a wellspring of knowledge @Sub.Zero . Continue to share it. Disagreements and argument happen. I mean, we are a bunch of dudes running things like Khan. The friction is good.

[Sub.Zero]

Thank you.

The reason is that I’ve arrived at a new framework that makes advising people and recommending titles irrelevant. Yet, I’m open to discussing my experiences and insights into them.