What do you/ did you consider reality?
I’d been doing breathwork solo for years and had taken many solo plant journeys. First time I did group breathwork, I sobbed, laughed, and convulsed for 40 minutes. Never in my life had I experienced anything like it, only now am I beginning to understand how that happened. Wild stuff man.
100% but also “the occult”, my favorite pet interest, has a notorious and deliberate branding problem. It’s intentional gatekeeping by certain people to keep the secrets secret. Truth about real western occultism is that the only stuff that IS of merit and not complete idiocy, is actually completely scientific. You engage in elaborate rituals for one reason, to induce a trance state through ritual, lower the resistance of the conscious mind, and more easily pass your “spells” (affirmations and intentions) into the subconscious. It’s really just an elaborate method of self hypnosis and the foundations of occult practice are actually meditation and visualization, believe it or not, the rituals are just a method of attempting to program your subconscious more easily. Subs make this pretty much null, but it can be fun, same way going to mass can be fun for agnostics like myself.
To put it another way, reality is reality no matter how you wanna dress it up. So if your magic spell works, well, that means that there is a scientific explanation for it, even if the practitioner doesn’t understand it.
Being an occultist or practical magician is really just a question of if you wanna be a Nerd and dive into silly shit and wear robes, there’s really nothing to fear. Which is why I got so silently annoyed when certain claims were being made because the claims themselves came from an ignorance about what occultism actual is. But how can I be mad when you got goths running around talking about human sacrifice and other gobblygook, not to mention Crowley being an utter troll and spewing crap just because he knew that it was an easy way for him to gain attention. Crowleys actual beliefs are pretty much Eastern, and not special, he gives essentially the same info as Alan Watts, just dressed up with pomp and stupid claims.
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That’s a tough one. “Reality” for me was a complex interconnected web of beliefs that seemed like they were facts. I don’t know how to describe it because it’s only really something you see once you’re outside of it. I guess that’s the nature of limiting beliefs, they don’t seem like limiting beliefs. You just take them at face value and assume it’s objective reality for you. There’s really so much we observe about life that’s up for interpretations based on our perceptual filters. Stepping outside of that doesn’t always seem possible as a conscious decision at times.
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Everyone, back on the topic, please. 
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I meant in the context of attracting and dating however, I totally agree with what you said. Maybe now thinking about it, that question is a little personal to ask on a forum. All the best tho man, seems like you’ve been doing great with Genesis 
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Ah gotcha. I’m not opposed to sharing. I’m kind of piecing things together still because I came from a pretty low place. For me it’s a huge jump, for other people they might have already been there. But for a long time my reality with dating and attraction basically amounted to establishing surface level attraction but then having this feeling like it was a countdown until they found out the real me and decided to leave. Mostly ending in a self fulfilling prophecy of me shooting myself in the foot vs how they actually felt. But it’s kind of like growing past those beliefs makes me realize how malleable personal reality is.
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Everything is interconnected. Sexuality and sexual focused subs can be as spiritual as the most spiritual ones, if properly consciously guided and utilized in an appropriate way, by specific people.
Both.
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Most of those claims were made by people who were interested in occultism, but were too afraid to even research it. We know this from the very things they said in public and private.
The lure of power called, but fear stood in the way.
Add in these individuals looking at subliminals on YouTube, where there’s plenty of people adding all kinds of useless gobblygook such as changing their zodiacal attributes and mixing it with occult ideas (this was confirmed by these individuals), and you have a weak mind’s excuse to panic.
So they came to the most stable, authoritative and developed company in the market and proceeded to lash out at us when they experienced profound effects with our programs.
After all, in their inane minds, if the gobblygook YT subliminals had to use all that “super dark stuffs” to achieve some results, then these incredible results must be utilizing the darkest secrets of humanity.
Ridiculous, but that is how the minds of the mentally unstable can work.
It’s honestly quite a sad existence.
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Yeah…it is sad. And like I said man, occultism has a deliberately bad reputation that was created by its own kin. Like, when you got some dude running around saying “666 I’m the beast bleh, fear me, I’m the most evil man who’s ever lived” (Crowley) and you got people like Levey running around founding a “Chruch of Satan” just to piss of Christianity, it’s not really a shocker that the satanic panic would later happen and people would form this natural fear/fascination with the occult.
Pretty much, the occult movement self-canabalized like right after it was born and gained steam, lol. It took me years and years to work up the courage to study occultism in objectivity, and what I found was a lot of bad press and the westernization of old spiritual practices lifted from Hindu mystical schools, Jewish mystical schools, and Greco-Roman mystical schools.
Now this is where it gets kinda funny, speaking of the deliberate bad press. Occultism intentionally gatekeeps because there is this idea that only the worthy student may learn the secrets. Pretty much, if you’re crazy enough to sort through the crap and overcome all the fears and taboo of that world, only then are you ready to learn the true secrets. It’s like the Mr. Miyagi treatment.
The secrets being…meditate and cultivate intense focus, and learn to visualize. 
That’s what’s so funny to me, by the rules of occult tradition, they weren’t allowed into the club because their own fear meant they were unworthy lol.
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Sounds like a MLM scam
Well, it low key can be. But hey, that’s life. There’s a lesson in everything and a way to creatively tie it back to a deeper understanding of stuff. Bad ideas can be a very useful way to spent your time and can teach you a lot about seemingly disconnected aspects of human nature. Lol
Back on the topic of WB, some results. On washout from v1 and a striking feature I’ve noticed is a continual “remembrance” of old aspects of myself that had fallen to the wayside, like my love of writing. Childhood memories, it’s interesting. Sometimes super uncomfortable, but it feels like the self love part of the script pushing me to remember and love those aspects of myself that I buried.
Also, I feel pretty strongly that WB is pushing me to push myself to pursue actual fame. This result came a couple days ago where my fear of fame vanished and I realized that the benefits of fame far outweigh the dangers. Especially if you wanna help people, as I do. I used to think I just wanted to be a faceless rich dude, but now I see that with money and fame combined, my ability to help people has gone up 1000 fold.
In line with this fame thing, I’ve also had synchronicities around a certain American celebrity dancing around my life sphere. Dude legit messaged my mom online after I had a vision of hanging out with him. Now I keep seeing the dude pop up everywhere and if rumors are correct, this dude had a house an hour away from me, so it’s actually possible that I could run into him. Idk, it could just be random stuff from ME, but it’s a thing.
One strange aspect is that my self-esteem has gone from sky high to tanking more than once. This is probably the over exposure because both times I ran this title, I bungled exposure. This most recent cycle I actually kept my shit together, so I seem to be getting better at running it lol.
Can’t wait to try V2, but that’s not gonna be until the 24th, gotta let my mind process all the changes.
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To answer the question and share my most recent experiences:
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been using this new version over 4 loops now， the difference that I notice is that NSE/NRE scripting is bringing back the feel of the deep inner exploration from the previous ZP V1 version….
I remember that the zp v1 had a more overall general focus on the development of one‘s inner landscape due to the fact that it has higher percentage of “primer” scriptings…as of result ，I experienced a lot of mental shift that was quite profound yet not directly related to the specific titles that I was using…that strong inner focus pushed me to examine a lot…
the ZP v2 has a less percentage of the “primer” more of scripting of the specific title…so the feel of each titles could be really unique…what I feel from the WB ZP v2 is a lot more than the coquette archetype…something bigger…I personally will describe it as Dark Angel …it consists of the darkness/the shadow side also something strong and powerful….unlike the OG wanted…it has a stronger feeling of masculinity and I feel more aggressive ，forward，self assured ，self love （quite narcissistic sometimes ）….I will say the feeling of it is quite unique and obvious dark…
this new version with NSE/NRE ，it has what I
mentioned above and pluses more …it brings back that deep inward focus …but unlike that zpv1 version which might dilute a bit the main focus of the title. it feels a bit like RoM…but Rom is intuitive and sharp…see through the surface，dive deep into the core….NSE/NRE is another story……without get into too much details，the other day ，I was contemplating certain past events then I just realised I am much of a coquette/dark angel than I think I am…in fact ，all along ，I have exhibited those characteristics…I couldn’t even remember there was a time that I was not like this….with NSE ，I am not changing into something new，but realise that I am like this all along…long before I even realise it…the thing is I am always like this…I just didn’t see it clear，I just forget it…it is right in front of me….it just feels so natural …like what I will expect from the module Naturalizer will produce….
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this is not an ethical and healthy way to treat a girl though.
This is yet another example of the phenomenon explained in the words “you can’t lie to ZP” where the tech removes unauthentic layers of your “persona” so that your real self can re-emerge and that helps us unlock our true potential instead of trying to force on us potentialities that are not congruent with our core like the old tech did.
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Actually managed to keep up with WB this time round since the update.
The recon is alleviated way more in this version I feel. I feel better on this than I did before. Will continue it in my stack for now. See what else it can uncover.
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Hey Fire, regarding that topic
in SSX title page , it is recommended to stack SSX with WB, as its can aid in the guiding of sexual appeal and verbal mastery.
What i’m trying to wrap my head around, if WB is the center of all attention and mystery, does SSX Complement its charm and mysterious vibe, while still not giving away the vibe of “neediness” ?
as SSX aid a lot in verbal fluency and seduction , yet hopefully does not change the inner state of the wanted man to start to chase instead of being chased.
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Reaching a level with WB that’s beyond beyond. I used to rely on IOI and now I don’t even. Like I know if a woman doesn’t look at me she still want me. Weird right?
Imagine a girl that crave for this hot guy from high school that all girls want but she doesn’t want to appear like she is like other girls. So she acts like she is not into him.
That’s what I am experiencing right now, like a lesson. I pulled a 10, that was so high on bitch shield with everyone. Like Rihanna entering the barber shop where A$AP ROCKY was getting his hair cut for those who’ve seen the video. I don’t know, 10 minutes later we were kissing in the cab and she told me I am hot. And I think I am hot. We are talking about a girl most guy would shy away from because she is a go getter, confident, with a great career.
I am on a washout. I was feeling recon during the day but went out anyway and pulled this beauty.
I don’t know how I do it. “I just do it like Jordan or Ewing, or Shaquille or Kobe and no one can stop me”
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That’s level is Subclub new logo: “Legend”.
I have been bombarding myself with this song: Awful Beast. I know that I’m becoming Awful Beast - Legend as days gone by.