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[FoxDie]

So according to the premises made by you in the previous posts on the archetypes, if I am an archetype x (e.g. attractor) and I wanted to become y (e.g. seducer), I cannot become one because inside myself I don’t believe in it enough? Or does it not resonate with me?

Or, if I consciously wanted to become a seducer using Wanted Black, but my subconscious feels like it’s more of an attractor, I won’t be able to use WB and will be forced to use something like SSX because it’s closest to what my subconscious most thinks it is?

But if I consciously didn’t agree with my subconscious and was determined to become a seducer with WB, instead of an attractor, what would happen?

[whatevermore]

Both WB and S&S work for me. But then again, I don’t believe in the whole archetype thing.

[SaintSovereign]

@FoxDie

So according to the premises made by you in the previous posts on the archetypes, if I am an archetype x (e.g. attractor) and I wanted to become y (e.g. seducer), I cannot become one because inside myself I don’t believe in it enough? Or does it not resonate with me?

That’s not the case. It’s more like, you have a natural skill that you can optimize or you can learn a new skill. Optimization is easier because you’re building upon where already exists, where learning a new skill means starting from new — which could bring in recon. Ultimately, it’s about what you want.

[Plutus]

@SaintSovereign

Optimization is easier because you’re building upon where already exists, where learning a new skill means starting from new — which could bring in recon

Yeah this is what I mean @FoxDie. You can because either just one will be easier to become than the other. The one your not use to or is new to you might cause recon.

[Fractal_Explorer]

Gotta be careful not to use the archetype thing as an excuse to run from subs too. Change inherently feels different, I’ve caught myself saying “I don’t think this is me” but its really just recon.

[WinglissStark]

Since I don’t have the skill of seduction yet, am I supposed to drop WB, or if I keep going, the sub will take care of it ?

[Plutus]

To be clear on my point, when I’m talking about archetype and to how I see it is an archetype is someone you resonate with and want to become in the future. For example: Using Hero: Origins or Chosen even tho you don’t resonate with their archetype and don’t want to be the archetype they would help achieve. You can still run them either way and get results but you may or may not get recon while using it and it may be a harder road to follow so to speak.

If (I will use Wanted Black as an example) if you resonate even a little bit with the Wanted Black and want to be similar to the Wanted Black archetype in the future then recon may or may not be less and results could be better.

Another good example is running Stark even tho your introverted, don’t want to be famous, don’t want to be social and only wants to build a business and do it alone without anyone helping. This doesn’t resonate with the Stark archetype and since it’s not a archetype you want to be similar to in the future you will probably experience harsh recon or less results compared to someone who is congruent and resonate with the Stark archetype which is a social charismatic genius playboy leader who loves to meet new people and work as a team and loves the fame aka Tony Stark.

[Plutus]

Keep WB but with NRE in S&S X might be worth giving those two together a try until NRE is in WB as well.

[Deadpool]

Or he could just wait for WB to get NRE + NWE.

[unusualfellow]

I’ve been running WB/ SSX/ Khan for a week- getting acclimated… I’ll upgrade the custom at least once (if not twice) for the Khan and WB upgrades

[ABC333]

To me it seems that the new advances in scripting will allow for smoother transitions. Let’s say a particular archetype doesn’t resonate with you.

The scripting from what I recall has always been about bringing your version of that into your reality.

One person may have this particular defined definition of what a seducer, or alpha, or entrepreneur is, and from what I can tell and my own experience is that it’s just making the transition smoother, less recon, and it’s not going to make you this or that, it’ll work with your own ideals, which I think has always been in some of the sales copy.

[AlexanderGraves]

Y’all are making this too complicated.

Try a few different romance titles. See which one works best with you.

Unless you definitely want to become a certain someone. Then run that sub but be ready for more recon

[SubliminalUser]

Me reading this thread:

This is all too complicated. Let me run SSX with WB and see what happens.

I think the two can synergize well in an unexpected way.

[Detective_L]

WB is getting NRE treatment for sure, but have they stated it that it will also get NWE treatment?

[Trader]

@Detective_L

but have they stated it that it will also get NWE treatment?

Saint did

[Malkuth]

@whatevermore

I don’t believe in the whole archetype thing.

This statement begs for unpacking. (When you have time.)

Is it that you don’t believe that narratives are organized around patterns of genre and trope?

Or is it that you don’t believe that human minds are organized around narratives?

Or is it something else entirely?

[whatevermore]

It is meant fairly narrowly: I don’t think what the subs do is push you towards sone archetype. The objectives of WB for example are what they are, they are not turn someone into James abond or John Wingliss. I prefer this theory of subs:

A simple skills-based Subliminals perspective

Subliminal programs are Messaging and Stimulation Systems that help you to develop skills, abilities, and capacities. These skills can be related to how you think and perceive, how you feel and handle feelings, and how you behave. Action refers to participating in situations that require the use of the skills that the subliminals are helping to develop. So here’s a simplified approach: identify the skill (or skills) that you wish to develop select and play the subliminal program that will p…

[Malkuth]

Got it.

So how I read this is:

1. You prefer to pragmatically focus on specific developmental objectives and to leave the rest of the picture to sort itself out; and

2. When it comes to archetypes, you reject the notion of conforming to Static, Fixed, Ready-Made formulae that are externally imposed upon one’s mind by the subliminal program.

This relationship to Archetype seems to be well-aligned with the Unfolding, Free-will approach that increasingly characterizes the programs here.

It seems, to me, less a disbelief in Archetype than an affirmation of the immanence and internally-generated aspects of Archetype.

(But that’s also me translating things into my preferred terms.)

[whatevermore]

I guess you refer to things like Jungian archetypes. I don’t know enough about that to form a solid opinion.

Irrespective of that, I think the subs allow for much more individuality snd variety than they offen receive credit for.

[Malkuth]

@whatevermore

I guess you refer to things like Jungian archetypes.

(or at least a mechanism of effect similar to that described by Jung. In other words, archetypes as comprising the structural latticework around which my personality and our social forms develop.)

@whatevermore

Irrespective of that, I think the subs allow for much more individuality snd variety than they offen receive credit for.

and, again,

I agree

(I suspect that, in general, a person’ll be allotted just as much individual freedom and variety as they insist upon. One who abdicates personal choice and freedom will always find tons of voices ready to provide ‘answers’ and who are quite happy to make the decisions one has opted to avoid.)