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I’d hate to be the guy being laughed about though… See I’m so nice that I don’t do that, feels mean. What if you’re the guy who “said something ‘weird’”? Now the other guy and girl are laughing about you, how does that feel? Lol :man_shrugging: if someone seems to be “popping the bubble”, it’s cool, just go with it, the bubble with this girl is not important. Caring too much about the “bubble being popped” = scarcity mindset. Just food for thought.

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Something tells me you don’t go around trying to interject when two people are flirting man. :rofl: I’m also nice, and I think bullying or anything that resembles it is low and shitty.

I’ve had this happen to me to me once, I’m talking to a girl in a bar, we’re both vibing, and some dude comes up and tries to “little man” me and steal the girl away by calling her beautiful and asking for her number, it doesn’t work and he ends up getting laughed at by both of us and also people who saw it. About 5 min later dude just leaves.

Was it mean?

Yeah, it was mean, but the dude did something shitty and got humbled.

It was just a random example that came to mind. :upside_down_face:

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valid

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Oh, good point lol.

Ooooh okay, well in this case it’s fair lol. That’s what they used to call “AMOG”-ing in the pickup community, when a guy comes in and tries to steal the girl/“out-alpha” you. But yeah in cases like that, I think laughing about it is the best thing you can do actually.

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Probably a pretty common shit-test manifestation for dudes on these subs. Because low key, it’s just a shit-test from a dude. If you pass, then you look like a hero to that girl that might have been on the fence about you.

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This is from the old PS
I had a lot of IOIs with Wanted just using it for 1 cycle.
The reason I use PS now is to see how it is as a standalone
I don’t want to create Customs before understanding each title by itself
However this guy is not the first to notice Wanted helps with the Attraction but not with pushing things forward.

I don’t want to build a crazy custom with PS PN and Wanted it might be too much lol…
If PS works well for me I’ll use it in a Custom with an Alpha title…
If not Wanted will be needed…

Currently my major titles are KB and Paragon
I’ll Start KB st3 in 2 weeks!
Using KBst3 with PS and Paragon is something I’m looking forward to

Soon will get my Custom Paragon Paragon Sleep and Diamond + Super healing modules inside it
It should be good

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Some people experiencing similar things with Wanted, does not necessarily means thats a Wanted feature or lack of. More often than not those experiences are really speaking about the person having them.
On the other hand people who likes to pursue/seduce or want to learn more about it, have titles like PS, specifically tailored for that. Wanted is for people who like to attract, thats a different style of personality, each title presuppose a different set of skills to be there in order for that sub to yield better results.

Now, the beauty of customs is that you can still make a Wanted custom and consider modules like Panther, Secrets of Seduction, etc.

I used to really vibe with Wanted because it mirrored the idea that I had about myself, later on I realized that Wanted kept me in the comfort zone, helped me attract women, but never pulled the trigger, not because of Wanted, but because of my own issues.
Now Im doing Daredevil and also EmpD and talking to women is no longer an issue for me… What has become an “issue”, yet a good one, is finding one thats worthy of my time.

One of the bigger lessons since I began using SC products was and still is, to be very aware of what it is that I need to learn and develop, in order to achieve what I want and look for a sub that specifically helps with that. Before I was selecting subs that matched what I wanted, but without any awareness of the blind spots in myself, even though I was pretty sure I was very aware of them. :joy: :rofl:

You know Emotions and Ideas vs Evidence and Facts when it comes to make decisions.

What I’m saying is Wanted probably works very well because using it with 2 other titles for only one cycle I felt the attraction from women.
But when I approached most of them nothing much happened, not because of wanted because I need to develop myself further.
So I don’t see why wanted not be a good idea in a more seduction type of custom :slight_smile:

This guy I mentioned had great success with Wanted AND when he added PS and PN the success got much better.

I’m just sharing his experiences and I want to see what happens with me on PS alone I bet I will have some great successes.

I didn’t like the too passive behaviors I had using Wanted but I really liked the IOIs and power I had socially!

It’s a learning curve and I want to stick to what I see easier and fast… Then to build on that
That’s why WB is not a discussion in this reply YET because I didn’t run it for long to see anything happening.
And it’s not a bad thing
It might be a process starting with Primal Or PS or Wanted then to develop to WB - at least if need be.

Primal was awesome for 1 cycle as well
Reason I stopped was to try wanted…
For the reason of building a custom
I hope it makes sense to you
I will update how PS effects me
And I will probably use it for 2 cycles

Its all about learning and moving forwards

Im sure too

Its not a bad idea if you craft it well.

I never meant to imply such a thing, we are all here learning.

Have a blast!! I´ll be happy to read about it

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Thanks for the encouragement!
For how long have you used PS for?
And for how long Wanted?

Share the results and experiences you had on each

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True this :point_up:t4: I have these and more in Wanted (Black) customs.

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Between Wanted and Wanted Black? I dont know… maybe 9 or 10 cycles… maybe more…

Here’s one of many posts about it.

PS not as much anymore, I have to dig for that answer.
I found out that the perfect blend for me is something like Daredevil for the social awareness and something like Primal Nights for the sexual edge.
Today I listened to EmpD and PN… Not gonna go into details, but let just say the girl I visited today woke up really early, feeling like I was already inside. PN is some serious shit!!.
After a whole day of pleasing her daddy, we are going out to have more fun, you know… daddy has love for her friends too.

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I think some women flirt with me more at work (clients) as the results of using PS only twice…
Most are not very attractive some are…

After only 2 loops I actually didn’t expect it, I expected the bubble of reality to start showing itself and to have better interaction when I approach which hasn’t manifested yet

However it is a very good indication in the right direction to have unexpected IOIs so that’s very good so I’m happy

I can’t comprehend what will happen after 2 cycles lol
It’s gonna be big!

Yes I feel you very well.

Interesting how the subconscious works and the book you mention. I’ll take a look at it.

Nice that I met another intelligent and knowledgeable guy in the forum :wink:

Since the 10th of November 2024, but @praisetheurdtree already explained very well that the bubble is an evolving process.

Yeah it’s probably pre-manifestations and learning experiences.
I think with each month it should get better

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When listening to PS, I quickly transform the negative into positive (emotional intelligence).

Unfortunately during the current washout, all results are gone. I think I need to do many cycles until the results become permanent.

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I took about 3 loops to start to kick in
Or at least to start to see the effects unfolding…

PS had the nice status effects Primal has probably the same or less not sure yet but it’s really nice

PS also make me feel a bit more attractive - Because women show a bit more interest than before
Some even chase me

Men treat me with more respect!
People see me as a high value guy these aspects again from Primal are super important to me and cool

Primal and Primal Seduction are really cool to have these status enhancements

Hahaha I can only imagine what it would be like to run Khan lol

3 loops knowing everyone will respect me and see me as a high value guy crazy stuff

Edit update:
One girl looked deeply into my eyes when we both crossed the road don’t remember that even happening once in my life wtf !
Women old and young look at me when I walk by…
I think even on Wanted it didn’t happen (on one cycle of wanted I had enormous amounts of IOIs including girls staring at me while I was in my car)

I love it.

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Enjoy and embrace it my friend

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I don’t go out at night much, but I’ve started noticing the manifestations with this title.

It feels different from Wanted, yet the two seem like they could work well together.
From reading journals, I’ve noticed a common pattern: guys who stick with PN, PS, or Wanted over a long period tend to see the greatest success.

I’ve experienced similar things others mentioned regarding PS — manifestations are happening, like girls showing up.
It feels like this title will build great momentum over time.

With Wanted, many users noticed a specific challenge.
While it attracts women — they stare, they notice — the ability to approach them or move things forward can sometimes be lacking. Wanted on its own, without Primal or a more “alpha” title, was a bit challenging, though still effective in its own right.

It might be something worth considering for @SaintSovereign during a future upgrade to Wanted — maybe adding scripting to help capitalize on the attention women are giving.
That said, perhaps this isn’t needed? Maybe sticking with the title longer will naturally resolve this? It’s hard to say for sure.

Interestingly, with PS, I notice fewer IOIs and less staring compared to Wanted.
I’m not entirely sure why that is. As a newer user, it’s a bit challenging to fully understand the differences between titles.

It would be incredible if @Fire and @SaintSovereign could update the product pages with deeper explanations for each and every title.
While I’ve spent hours reading journals and descriptions, even experienced users sometimes struggle to fully distinguish between them.

That clarity would be hugely helpful, especially for those of us trying to maximize the potential of these titles!

I know PS and PN have long range attracting powers - I read it on the forum.
Does WB have the same? or Maybe Wanted?

I’ve decided to continue with PS just because I want to gain momentum.
So I’ve ordered my second Custom:
Genesis: Mogul
Primal Seduction
APS: Hair
APS: Torso
Equilibrium

Synergy: Beyond Seduction
Synergy: Perfection Manifestation
Synergy: Voice is the Law
Synergy: Divine Dominion - manifestations
Approachability Aura

Synergy: Primordial Aura
Fortune’s Favorite
Sultan
Financial Success Reality Shifter
Sacred Words

Submodel Alpha
Transcendental Connection
Power Talk
King’s Radiance
Synergy: Apollon Unbound

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