Yeah it’s probably pre-manifestations and learning experiences.
I think with each month it should get better
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When listening to PS, I quickly transform the negative into positive (emotional intelligence).
Unfortunately during the current washout, all results are gone. I think I need to do many cycles until the results become permanent.
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I took about 3 loops to start to kick in
Or at least to start to see the effects unfolding…
PS had the nice status effects Primal has probably the same or less not sure yet but it’s really nice
PS also make me feel a bit more attractive - Because women show a bit more interest than before
Some even chase me
Men treat me with more respect!
People see me as a high value guy these aspects again from Primal are super important to me and cool
Primal and Primal Seduction are really cool to have these status enhancements
Hahaha I can only imagine what it would be like to run Khan lol
3 loops knowing everyone will respect me and see me as a high value guy crazy stuff
Edit update:
One girl looked deeply into my eyes when we both crossed the road don’t remember that even happening once in my life wtf !
Women old and young look at me when I walk by…
I think even on Wanted it didn’t happen (on one cycle of wanted I had enormous amounts of IOIs including girls staring at me while I was in my car)
I love it.
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Enjoy and embrace it my friend
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I don’t go out at night much, but I’ve started noticing the manifestations with this title.
It feels different from Wanted, yet the two seem like they could work well together.
From reading journals, I’ve noticed a common pattern: guys who stick with PN, PS, or Wanted over a long period tend to see the greatest success.
I’ve experienced similar things others mentioned regarding PS — manifestations are happening, like girls showing up.
It feels like this title will build great momentum over time.
With Wanted, many users noticed a specific challenge.
While it attracts women — they stare, they notice — the ability to approach them or move things forward can sometimes be lacking. Wanted on its own, without Primal or a more “alpha” title, was a bit challenging, though still effective in its own right.
It might be something worth considering for @SaintSovereign during a future upgrade to Wanted — maybe adding scripting to help capitalize on the attention women are giving.
That said, perhaps this isn’t needed? Maybe sticking with the title longer will naturally resolve this? It’s hard to say for sure.
Interestingly, with PS, I notice fewer IOIs and less staring compared to Wanted.
I’m not entirely sure why that is. As a newer user, it’s a bit challenging to fully understand the differences between titles.
It would be incredible if @Fire and @SaintSovereign could update the product pages with deeper explanations for each and every title.
While I’ve spent hours reading journals and descriptions, even experienced users sometimes struggle to fully distinguish between them.
That clarity would be hugely helpful, especially for those of us trying to maximize the potential of these titles!
I know PS and PN have long range attracting powers - I read it on the forum.
Does WB have the same? or Maybe Wanted?
I’ve decided to continue with PS just because I want to gain momentum.
So I’ve ordered my second Custom:
Genesis: Mogul
Primal Seduction
APS: Hair
APS: Torso
Equilibrium
Synergy: Beyond Seduction
Synergy: Perfection Manifestation
Synergy: Voice is the Law
Synergy: Divine Dominion - manifestations
Approachability Aura
Synergy: Primordial Aura
Fortune’s Favorite
Sultan
Financial Success Reality Shifter
Sacred Words
Submodel Alpha
Transcendental Connection
Power Talk
King’s Radiance
Synergy: Apollon Unbound
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That’s great progress tho man. A few months ago you were getting such intense recon it was crazy.
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I felt the same by using only Asc. My aura became mysterious, I got lot’s of IOI’s, but I never had the courage to approach, and that’s why I switched to PS.
Anyway it looks like the Asc results became permanent, as I still get the IOI’s (even more IOI’s with PS than when I was using Asc), and because I can keep being mysterious when I want to (normally that’s my default mode - I only switch to playful and fun if I see the woman respects me and can keep up a conversation with me).
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This title is a gem in my eyes.
It takes time to understand it…
But the way it develops is amazing.
I’ve yet to understand WB so I cannot compare WB might be stronger or different in a great way I don’t know.
I do know it took me about 1 cycle to just start to see what PS is doing.
And it’s doing a lot.
TIPS for an awesome PS experience:
- Visualize what you want
- Go out at night! Unfortunately at least before this title gains a lot of momentum in your life it will be difficult to enjoy this one on the day versus the night.
- Go out with positive people who Approach women!
- Approach women
You will see the big difference yourself
It’s like whatever you do - they love it
Whatever you say - is the best
Reactions? - they fall in love
Some will not want you some will like you some will fall in love
The reactions are stronger with each week
You have to experience it yourself.
ONLY once you start to get it , that women will actually love you and will be attracted…
Only then you can let yourself go and approach more of them with great results!
Let PS to do it’s thing.
It’s similar to Primal
But… different
I can’t explain it fully.
Primal feels more like status and what you want to do, and women will still love you and fall for you
But PS is more about when you approach them it’s 10 times stronger
I think 1 cycle of PS is like 2-3 cycles on Prime when we only look at Seduction!!
So Primal has other areas in it of course.
If you want women PS is one of the best titles to go with.
I do want to inform I use KB and Diamond as well
But what I see as reactions reminds me of Primal that’s why I don’t think it’s Diamond doing the attraction
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Totally agree , when I ran previous version s of this for a year plus around 2019 I got mad results , running this version just recently and put in the work and results come eventually…could be weeks or months but they come !
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Your journey inspired me a lot!
I haven’t updated my journal yet - but a lot is happening
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I was once walking down the street after listening to PS and i looked into her eyes without saying a word she giggled and said “I am so sorry I in a relationship”
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Haha now thats clever 
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Holy shit, lol. I’ve been out the loop, I need to catch up on here.
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And you can be sure it’s not an easy title…
Takes few weeks and you need to approach a lot to see it’s effects…
I’m trying stark with wanted for now
But PS has a lot of potential I think
For now I’m trying a different approach
I’ll just say, primal is easier
And if you use PS try using PN with it…
The attention is cool and results are better
After few weeks on PS every girl you approach will open much more easily
You don’t really need to do anything special
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I gave the older version of PS a 10/10 review.
Since they made it even better, I can boost it to an 11/10.
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Did you write about these experiences here?
I probably have some scattered around, lol.
I’ll give you a quick breakdown off the top:
PSZP
Primal Seduction is extremely straightforward to me.
You run the subliminal and consistently put yourself out there to interact with women.
Run subliminal → interact with women → processing/learning/recon → repeat.
Over time you will gradually become better at seducing them. Much of this is automatic, subtle, and “I just got better”. You’ll simply know what to say and what to do.
I’ve heard “sorry I have a boyfriend” many times. I’ve been rejected. As I developed with PS (and WANTED), that decreased in frequency to the point of becoming practically non-existent.
I follow very strict philosophies and protocols. For one, I’ve never approached a woman who wasn’t giving me strong IOI’s. I think otherwise is weird for many different reasons, but mostly female friends of mine getting followed, harassed and annoyed by needy men and then telling me about it. I improved my IOI frequency with WANTED in the beginning, which is arguably the master at eliciting IOI’s. Well now, it’s probably WB, which I’ve never run.
One thing about Primal Seduction + WANTED that I won’t forget, is the women manifestation. Countless amount of times, I would be at the grocery store getting watermelons, restaurant getting takeout, bank to make a deposit, walking to my car from the gym… and a very attractive women just happened to be there, giving me IOI’s and who I felt the jalapeno-electric pull to. It’s as if the subliminal “spawns” targets. When you keep taking action, growing with the subliminal, having new experiences, doing the work, transitioning through the recon, reconciling the blockages holding you back, and so forth… your reality will just reflect the new baseline of where you’re at in the progression.
I’ve used Primal Seduction for 4 months consistently with insane amounts of action (I have very high flow factor and very strong processing foundation, meaning I often steamroll through growth) and sporadically for increased development and exploration somewhere around… at this point, almost a year. On paper, I have almost a year of running Primal Seduction.
One thing which I think is vital for success that separates me from other men - I don’t watch porn or do all of that weird crap, which 9/10 men do. It destroys your self-worth, confidence, and magnetism. I have “NoFap” on unconscious competence.
After getting really good with women on Primal Seduction, I transitioned into Khan.
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Spot on breakdown on how to use PS or any seduction subs, you put in the work in and results will follow …could take weeks or months but they do cone . And yes the no fap thing etc is beneficial especially when out meeting women !
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I’ve experimented with these titles separately over time—first Wanted, then Primal then Primal Seduction, and now back to Wanted. I’ve never tried combining them, but currently, I’m running Wanted with Stark.
How long have you used Wanted alongside PS?
I agree, Wanted definitely increased the attention I received from women. As for PS, it’s a bit more nuanced.
At first it did nothing for even few weeks.
Later on women reactions got better as I approached them.
At one point, even though I didn’t get much IOIs, when I approached them, things seemed to flow more smoothly and improve week by week. That said, I still faced my fair share of rejections, of course.
The uncertainty comes from a week when I added PN into the mix(few loops). Started to get IOIs, I couldn’t tell if the increased attention was due to the cumulative effects of using PS consistently for several weeks or if it was PN making the difference.
Later, I switched to a custom that included a mix of seduction and wealth modules, with PS and GM as cores. Unfortunately, I noticed the effects I’d been experiencing completely vanished—even after giving it a few weeks to work.
Now, I’ve gone back to Wanted with Stark. I’ve thought about revisiting the custom alongside Wanted, or pairing Wanted with the original PS, but for now, I’m not planning to change anything.
In your experience, how long did you use Wanted with PS? I’m convinced it’s a powerful combination for seduction!