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I remember with the old khan it was pretty obvious there was Daredevil in it, is this still the case? Is Daredevil flavor mixed in this delicious cocktail?

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I never ran dare devil… just khan… with wanted/black… curious about dare devil and revamped nse dare devil especially

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Not now, I don’t see any daredevil mixed in this.

This version of Khan for me is closer to emperor.

Very dominant, strong willed, etc.

Keep in mind I haven’t started st3 yet.

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I started Khan Stage 3 and stacked with my ZP Standard custom built with:

  • Emperor Core
  • Emperor: The Will To Power Core
  • Godlike Masculinity: The Commander Core

The recon is not terrible. Could be worse for me (Wanted Black :smirk:; which I cherish).

This is the vibe, this is me:

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Could you describe it in words bro :joy:

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lol curious about what you look for or get in each core.
I just admit i can imagine what GLMTC and Khan would do but anything more :scream:

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The best way to describe the experience is through describing my personality it amplifies.

Disclaimer: This is not scientific. Take this as a tool for self-knowledge.

enneagram

"The Type Eight is referred to as ā€œThe Challenger ā€˜ā€™ of the Enneagram system because they are not afraid to buck societal rules in pursuit of justice. They believe it is their job to combat oppression and stand up for those weaker than themselves. Type Eights make strong leaders who are assertive, goal-oriented, and resilient.

Key Personality Traits of the 8

  • Independent and self-sufficient
  • Fierce and confident look
  • Determination and stamina
  • Very energetic and busy
  • Fiery passions and power
  • Stubborn and headstrong
  • Serious about control over environment

Eights are defined by their desire to be powerful and to avoid any vulnerability. They present a confident, assertive, and decisive image to others. Eights can be argumentative and intimidating; it is important to them to stand up for what they believe in and to protect those who are weaker than themselves.

Deepest Fear: Eights fear being vulnerable and powerless more than anything, and cope with this fear by always being strong and in control.

Core Motivations: Eights are motivated by their desire to be independent and in control. They resist appearing or feeling weak and reject any authority that restricts them.

Enneagram Type 8 In Depth

Goal-oriented and self-competent, Challengers trail blaze boldly through all walks of life and take great pride in their independence and sharp minds. They hold their heads up high and will pick themselves right back up after each stumble — stronger than before.

Eights rebel against the rules of society. The opinions of others will have absolutely no effect on their standings upon an issue, as they pride themselves on being fully capable and self-sufficient.

Strong advocates for others, Eights are concerned with justice, combating oppression, and protecting the weak. They view the world as made up of ā€œstrongā€ and ā€œweakā€ people — they are strong and, therefore, are responsible for protecting those who are not.

Eights are energetic and direct. This type is not shy when it comes to taking the lead and making tough decisions. They have no fear of conflict and they are not always concerned with limits or boundaries. They typically take charge during group projects or meetings and find themselves at ease in leadership positions.

As children, they may have been called ā€˜bossy’ by peers. Many Eights grow up in a conflict-heavy environment, and feel like they have to adopt a strong personality early in life to survive.

Challengers are part of the ā€œbody-basedā€ triad, along with Type One and Type Nine. The core emotion experienced by this triad is anger. While Ones and Nines more or less repress or ignore their anger, Eights have no problem accessing their anger, often expressing it impulsively.

Healthy Eights are brave and charismatic leaders who stand up for themselves and others. Less healthy Eights may ruin relationships on their path toward power and authority. Eights grow when they learn to access their vulnerability and weaknesses.

Enneagram 8 Wings

8w7: The Eight wing Seven type is an Eight who shares many characteristics with the Type Seven. This type is energetic, enthusiastic and may appear more combative than other Eights. Common jobs for this type include entrepreneur, politician, and lawyer.

8w9: The Eight wing Nine type is an Eight who has similar features as the Type Nine Peacemaker. They are confident, calm, and generally more patient than other Eights. Popular jobs for the 8w9 include activist, professor, counselor, and judge.

Core Values of Enneagram 8s

  • Competence, influence, power and control — Challengers crave respect as opposed to status or being liked by the group.
  • Challengers are set to make an impact, and won’t back down. They pride themselves on their strength, honesty and the truth.
  • Challengers also possess an extremely strong inner sense of justice. Loyalty also plays a major role in the Challenger’s value system. They’re devoted to those who have proven themselves over time and will stand by them until the end—through hell or high water.
  • When danger comes and their loved ones are in trouble, the Challenger will confidently stretch their wings to protect them.

How to Recognize an Enneagram 8

Naturally accustomed to leadership roles, the Challenger makes their presence known and carries an aura of confidence and self-assuredness in their speech and walk.

They typically believe in the mantra of creating your own luck and work very hard to make things happen, no questions asked. Challengers are ruthlessly independent and are unafraid of confrontation, which can get them into major trouble at times.

They naturally butt heads with authority, especially when met with the classic, ā€œYou must do this, because I told you so.ā€ Respect is earned through reason and competency, and not through age or status."

Source : Enneagram Type 8: The Challenger

For SC: I don’t know if linking that blog is against the rules. Apologies if so. Trying to give credit for the description above. Feel free to remove if so. I won’t take that personal.

  • Emperor as a revamped standalone Major Title with the New Subliminal/Status Experience has a strong guiding hand. Reminds me of the descriptions of Intuition Enhancer, Information Releaser, Merger of Worlds, Informaticon, Wayfinder, Cosmic Navigator and the ROI related modules. Think of an advisor to the Emperor, because the NSE is showing you the Emperor you already are.
  • Will To Power takes this a step further by assisting with the assimilation of power dynamics and cultivating power. The guiding hand of Emperor is reinforced and it helps cultivate presence
  • Godlike Masculinity The Commander also aids in power dynamics, and focuses on a strong presence.

For the sake of convention and decorum I’ve had to turn a lot of my natural self down. It’s also for my protection because I have no problem challenging an entire group of people alone, and that’s the thing that needs to be refined.

On this stack, these words come to mind: Justice, power to the people, revolution, power, enterprise, empire, business, building, negotiation, deals, finance, industry, monopoly.

To sum it up.

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Been in a very introspective state for the past few cycle.

Currently doing my second cycle of Khan st2.

Two more weeks before I can jump into st3.

I’ve underestimated the introspection, not that it’s overwhelming or anything… But committing to months of introspection wasn’t what I was expecting.

I was expecting more external focus rather than internal.

Hopefully stage 3 will help me get my focus externally.

I want to feel fully present on chart, I want to be in the moment… Yet it’s a bit hard to do it, I’ve been pulled inward for the past weeks.

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That seems entirely natural, though. Khan Stage 1 bulldozes your beliefs and Khan Stage 2 builds on a new foundation, which gets questioned over and over until you’re sure of what you want and who you will be in life. That has to happen through intense introspection, right?

Are you putting yourself in lots of social situations then? If you’re mainly focused on trading well, and your girlfriend already takes care of you, you might not notice the external changes as much as someone who is aggressive about pursuing women, for example.

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That’s actually true. I don’t necessarily see them.

But it’s a good point. I’m giving training in harassment at work and I’m more able to put people back to their place at the risk of being cancelled hahaha

So now that I think about it I do have external results. It’s just my focus, I’m looking inside and missing outside.

I wanna try ASBR in custom with Wanted Black… but I don’t know how much better it really will be over Wanted Black & Khan with Gloryseeker and auric overdrive etc…

I’m still getting some status challenges on Khan, which I never got on previous Khan…

Sometimes, I let it go; other times I call them out… just seeing how to handle it lol

I want to talk less and just BE
Carry Khan vibe

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Well, I’ve decided.

I’m joining both Khan and Khan Black families :slight_smile:

Wish me luck!

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The khan recon is something fierce sweet Jesus.

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I think I had some recon this past month too lol

Strong medicine

New Khan ST4 probably is making me more grounded than I’ve ever been

Hahahhaa

Yeah tbh I was expecting a softer ride, more of a mix between Emperor, daredevil and PS.

Now it’s a real crucible.

It’s cool because we get growth…But I was used to run Khan long term and stay on st4. Will I be able to do this now?

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Yeah without going into details things are hitting me like a ton of bricks but last time this happened i ran away from what was being asked of me instead of pushing through . i am kind of dreading stage 4 but i made a commitment to this

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Then I doubt it’s my imagination or coincidence
New Khan ST4 is some rough shii lol

Peaceful quiet workplace not so peaceful or quiet

The drama :boom: :boom: :boom:

New Emperor didn’t feel like this

And I ran Old Khan ST4 straight all last year

I’m gonna keep on through the storm

:cloud_with_lightning_and_rain:
:horse_racing:

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I would encourage you to consider that you pick ONE of those 2 to start with, start with micro-loops, and notice what happens.

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wohoooo!!! Will there be a journal too? : )

One thing I need to figure out is how to identify quickly my needs.

Often time I am not even aware of my needs and I get these emotions I can’t understand where they come from.

One of my main goal will be and try to be more aware of what I need.

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