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#2730

Are there actual videos where RAIKOV would be beneficial?

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#2731

Go back to something like primal for a few months and build a better foundation. Stop brute forcing

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#2732

There is value in this advice even for me.

Before Khan, master Primal.

Before Emperor, take the Ascension route.

Before Wanted Black, travel the Wanted path.

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#2733

Hardpill in coming.

Khan won’t fix this, It isn’t a magic bullet for manhood. Approaching this intensive sub with a poor sense of self will fuck you up. If you want to run Khan, start by addressing this other issues and learning to forgive yourself.

You’re already a man. Own that and all the shortcomings that come with it. No subliminal is going to make you a man.

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#2734

Foundation building isn’t sexy, but it’s a better use of your time and money than brute forcing through recon or sub hopping when you don’t see result.

Also anti-recon and adaptive scripting aren’t an accuse to skip foundation building. Do I need to explain how these are even better with a solid foundation?

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#2735

Run RAIKOV and binge watch Johny Sins

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#2736

lol he said he was doing no fap

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#2737

I didn’t ask him to fap lol

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#2738

masturbating isn’t that interesting anyway, too much wasted energy, I watch porn for the plot and the comedy
and yeah, watching with RAIKOV would be gold for increasing technique and skills.
though nothing beat practice, it’s hard to learn the nerve ending positions with so much simulation, but one would learn both acting skills, camera techniques, and sexual techniques I guess

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#2739

Sex Mastery X + Limitless: RAIKOV
Then model Johnny Sins :joy:

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#2740

You want something foundational like others have said.

Genesis: Ascension.

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#2741

Coming back to a new Khan+WB custom soon.

I’ll be in a month long field environment doing combat training with no outside telecommunications (no smartphones, computers, headphones).

So I have no choice but to do a 26 day washout and I’m ready because my record is 7 days since starting in 2022. All the subliminal lessons will finally be integrated including everything I’ve done on Khan.

I see this as the best gift from the universe. Finally seeing what’s on the other side of a long washout and what actually happens when all input ceases for a longer time.

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#2742

Wishing you a great training and washout. :muscle: :star:

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#2743

My first loop of stage one had me on the verge of tears and lying in bed for two days. Fast forward a week later, I’m light and at ease. I’m comforting some deeply vulnerable parts of myself that need stengrthing and I’m much better for it.

Great stuff.

Oddly feeling my self drive hitting overtime lately. Funny to see.

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#2744

Thought I’d share this

How would Essence: To Become the prize change a Khan based custom?

Would one still have that strong masculine pursuit?

What about adding her hunt your throne- is that module necessary with Essence: To become the prize?

If it added , how would it further alter/enhance the custom?

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SubliminalClub Support SupportMay 5, 2026 8:35 pm

Hello,

Good questions. Working through them in order.

How ESSENCE: To Become the Prize would change a Khan-based custom

The texture of Khan’s romantic expression would shift from “dominant man whose presence pulls women in” to “centered prize whom women actively pursue.” But this shift is smaller than it might first appear, because Khan’s romantic scripting already leans toward women being drawn to your magnificence rather than active pursuit on your part. Khan’s product copy describes women whose “eyes start glazing over as they witness your regal magnificence” — that’s already a “pulled toward you” dynamic. ESSENCE: To Become the Prize makes explicit and amplifies what Khan already implies.

What changes more concretely: the frame moves from “Will she want me?” to “Is she what I’m looking for?” You stop leaning forward in interactions and settle into a quieter, more selective center. Approaches become her idea. Escalation becomes her initiative. The internal architecture is one of completion-without-validation — and women sense that almost immediately.

Would you still have strong masculine pursuit?

Yes, but it’s worth separating two different things that “masculine pursuit” can mean.

Khan’s masculine drive is primarily about life-conquest, ambition, leadership, dominance, and the relentless willpower to build something earth-shaking. That dimension is untouched by ESSENCE: To Become the Prize — Khan still drives you toward conquest, mastery, status, success, and the strategic/leadership work that creates a Khan. None of that changes.

What does change is the romantic-pursuit dimension specifically. ESSENCE: To Become the Prize redirects the romantic dynamic from “I pursue her” to “she pursues me.” Some users describe this as feeling more masculine, not less, because the centered, abundant, unhurried frame has historically been associated with high-status masculinity. The Khan who doesn’t need to chase is a more powerful Khan than the Khan who does. Genghis didn’t ride to anyone — they came to him.

So if “masculine pursuit” means “ambition, drive, life conquest” — fully preserved.

If “masculine pursuit” means “actively chasing women” — that specifically softens. But what replaces it isn’t passivity; it’s selection. You’re still in command of the dynamic, just from a different angle.

Is Her Hunt, Your Throne necessary alongside ESSENCE: To Become the Prize?

No, it isn’t necessary. The two modules overlap significantly in core function — both are about being-pursued, being the prize, women taking the active role. You’d get the central dynamic from either one alone.

That said, they emphasize different layers of the same dynamic, and there’s a case for including both if you want the full saturation:

ESSENCE: To Become the Prize is more about the internal state — the unshakable center, the abundance frame, the quiet certainty, the absence of grasping. It changes who you are first, and the external behavior follows from that.

Her Hunt, Your Throne is more about the external behavioral mechanic — she takes the active role, makes the first moves, escalates contact, while you remain calm and receptive. Each action she takes reinforces your value in her eyes. It’s more behaviorally specific.

If added on top of ESSENCE: To Become the Prize

Adding Her Hunt, Your Throne would deepen and accelerate the being-pursued dynamic by reinforcing it from two directions at once: the internal state shift from ESSENCE: To Become the Prize plus the external behavioral pattern from Her Hunt, Your Throne. Practically, this might show up as faster expression of the dynamic, more obvious approach behavior from women, and a stronger sense of “playful tension” in interactions where she’s clearly investing.

The trade-off is that it uses a module slot. With a Khan-based custom, you’re already running a dense build, and adding two modules that cover similar ground when one might be enough is a question of priority. If the dynamic comes through well with just ESSENCE: To Become the Prize alone, you’ve saved a slot for something that adds a different dimension. If you want to drive the being-pursued frame as deeply as possible, both can work together.

My honest take: start with just ESSENCE: To Become the Prize. It’s distilled from WANTED, which is the entire major title built around this dynamic, so the module carries serious weight on its own. If after running the custom you feel the dynamic isn’t expressing strongly enough or you want to push it further, you can always add Her Hunt, Your Throne in a future revision. That’s a more efficient use of slots than committing both upfront.

Best regards,

Support Team

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#2745

So glad I waited before trying Khan. ST1 has given me the worst recon of my life. I’m talking lying in bed dealing with heart break. Yet its shown my exactly what a healthy attachment looks like and what I need from a a partner.

Recon isnt the enemy but its the worst friend ive ever met lol. Only 39 days to go.

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#2746

I can’t remember if I asked this

For sex- Khan (which stage?) or Wanted Black better? (like experience while having it)

For attracting someone inspired by people who are ambitious and on top of their game, getting sexual - Khan or Wanted Black? (Or Wanted Dream Boy if people find that for seduction good. I love a lot of the effects -but have not seen its seduction side as strongly as Khan or WB )

#2747

Khan’s the best bet here. The end goal is to make you an ambitious person who’s on top of your game. Once that’s apart of your baseline, you’re naturally attracting people who resonate with that.

I figure dedicated seduction titles (Black and Dream Boy) are better here since they have more room for sexual experience enhancement scripting. Ive heard seduction titles have some sexual mastery in them too.

Dream boy is incredible for seduction once you’ve developed your signature presence and style. That’s the dirty work of person development and inner work. Dream boy’s taking me to my fuckboy era and I owe it to figure my shit out. I’m looking forward to Dream boy and Khan S4 at the end of the year.

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#2748

Thanks

I figured, and that’s been my experience so far, but I went into doubt with a certain situation.

So you find Dream Boy great in the bedroom as well? That’s good to hear. Khan has sexual mastery in it as well, in later stages, I believe, but it might shine through more in smaller, focused titles. WB is amazing in the bedroom. My experience while running Khan is less. Khan Stage 2 was decent. Emperor Daddy was really good as well.

Love it. My experience on it from my runs has been fantastic for social and connections, definitely romantic tones, but I didn’t get the same physical escalation as quickly with WB. But I can see great potential sexually with it as well when I hit a certain groove, just have not gotten my angle on that fully yet. Have you run WDB with Khan any of the stages at all yet?

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#2749

Oh yea, Saint confirmed this from the get go. Folks were worried about it being too ‘soft’ lol. Some fun sexual experiences with dream boy:

  • Best friend steals me from a my date (“I’m stealing your date” their words), drags me to their place and insists I sleep in their bed naked.

  • 5 minutes into a movie, valentine’s date started masturbating on my couch. I went down on her and we hade marathon sex before our reservations.

  • Spontaneous threesome at a sex club the next day.

  • Long time friend and party hostess squeezes past me in a crowd only to grab two hand fulls of my waist and grope my hips.

  • Ex girlfriend recently invited herself into my bed after a night of club, slid her hand up my shit then grabbed my cock. She asked “why’s it so hard” when I asked what she meant, she squeezed again, then kissed me goodnight.

Sounds about right. Think I’ll give sexual mastery a chance early next year and see how it stacks up

Yup. I plan on starting a recap jounral this week.

I’m 21 days into a 60 day cycle of stage one. Dream Boy helps smooth the Khan’s rough edges. I’m glad I stick with dream boy for so long. Seeing DWB’s successes resonate, even at the worst of Khan’s recon, helps with processing and moving forward.

My goal is to to cultivate the benevolent ruler archetype/presence. Loved > fear; the late stage depiction of Genghis Khan for you history fans. Khan offers grounding, ambitious and presence. Dream Boy offers that magnetic, dreamy presence you find in a Kennedy. It’s all super-charged by Main Character Energy (in dream boy) and rounded off by Stabilizer.

All that aside, ST4 Khan with my eventual Dream Boy Custom will take my fuckboy era to new heights. I’ve ready done the harem thing (pre subs). Excited to see what comes next.

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