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#536

By doing each stage for 1 cycle and repeating you build each stage upon the previous

When you use TB and crumble your traumas you then proceed to build yourself up with TR

After TR you use your new power with TA and then move on to Khan Complete

Then you repeat, heal again, build more, act more and Khan Complete again

Doing more healing and more healing and more healing won’t lead anywhere

The process of doing stage after stage for one cycle each is far more effective and im going to prove it, im already at stage 2 and my confidence is sky high, i feel powerful as if i could take over the world

I only did one cycle of TB so how does stage 2 is working so well for me? :thinking:

If you want to become great you need to act, healing alone is not enough

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#537

Lol, no. But also probably not by running 24 cycles of it either. My point is that it’s better to take time, do some healing, and then take massive action on what comes up and improving your circumstances, in the area’s that you need to work on. Being patient and doing work are two different things.

I can almost guarantee that the person who switches to stage 2, and takes massive action, and gets positive feedback from reference experiences on the area’s of their life they are trying to improve, compared to the other person who is sitting around in recon because they are “healing trauma” is going to be much better off.

Sorry :joy:

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#538

It also specifically says in the instructions, run each stage for a cycle, move on to the next, and then come back to it to learn new things about yourself/experiences. I understand that you have some pretty major trauma’s to overcome, but that is not everybody’s experience, and what has/may work best for you isn’t nessicarily the case for everybody.

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#539

My method is I get as much out of it as I put in the procress. It’s like exercise. I rushed through Khan the first time (1 single cycle of each). Though I’ve had 3 and a half cycles of ST1 (1 cycle new) and over 5 of old ST4.

The results just depend on how each of us train and the discipline.

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#541

Yes exactly, positive experiences from stages 2-4 will change your life and even heal you much more than repeating stage 1 over and over again

When you come back to stage 1 after doing the entirety of the program, the recon will be much less than the last time you did stage 1 and the results will be much more profound

Real world experiences is more valuable than sitting and introspecting about your childhood trauma for 3 cycles of TB

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#542

What we learn here is that you gotta do what you feel is best for you, because your subconsciousness is already guiding you this way. For some, deep internal reflection is the most meaningful and transforming thing to do, for others it is “getting out there”, because these “real world experiences”(everything is filtered through your mind, so what is the ontological difference between things out there and in here?) seem realer to you, so your subconsciousness is more impressed by what happens. Internal reflection doesn’t necessarily mean pointless intellectual masturbation. It just needs to be meaningful for your inner frame to want to change itself. That’s why for some, a highly symbolic and deep dream retains much more emotional and transformative value than some nights out.

What Kronos has so eloquently pointed out is rather important though. Journal after journal, I noticed that quite a few people here had some great initial success, and then it all came crashing down and they went back to something more comfortable, because their foundation wasn’t there. There was no congruence. There is also this pattern where people try to get to Wanted Black and one of the Primal titles as fast as possible, and then they wonder why people are creeped out by them or why they send mixed signals out there. Or in the worst case scenario, they look desperately for IOIs and find none. Again, no deep congruence.
Interestingly, if you go back to 2019 and look at some of the first Khan users, for example, you’ll notice that some people had an immediate lift-off on the first week of Khan Stage 1. Everything just connected for them instantly. Was it because they instantly ran out and approached everything that vaguely resembled the opposite sex? I don’t think so, even though extraverted go-getter types will always get more feedback.
There are clearly journals of people on this forum who have been on some sub or another since 5 years or so, and they still experience less stellar results than these “natural talents” that appear here from time to time. It reminds me of the PUA days, where some instructor tells a shy guy to approach for the first time in his life, and he eventually does, and to his great surprise, he becomes an instant chick magnet without trying much. Meanwhile, there is someone who goes through the same motions but after years, his results are still lackluster. The only conclusion is that their individual makeups are way different, and that the natural talent already had a mostly congruent inner frame that just needed some encouragement to go out.

In the end, it all comes down to knowing who you are and what you need to do to accomplish what you want. This should be prioritized over mindlessly adhering to general instructions.

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#543

Apart fom patience and doing the work, it also requires honesty, and as you can see some people want to lie out there way to St2 by reasoning they don’t need 24 cycles of St1 or that the instruction says 1 cycle or gauge their progress upon how they feel on St 2.

However, it may be one of the classical forms of recon, speaking through them. Playing the lawyer’s game. Another thing is that lots of people simply are satisfied with feeling like Khan and their body language. Psychological maturation at work.

Anyhow, I salute you, future Khans.

Edit:

Who said TB is about doing nothing but sitting and brooding upon your traumas?

Read the sales page to Phoenix. Do you think the main paradigm is any different on TB?

The main paradigm is to go out there, take CONSISTENT action, and experience life.

If you have addressed me here, you clearly don’t understand.

Go on with your lawyer’s game, I don’t mind. REALLY. I wrote it for everyone, not for you only. Don’t flatter yourself, oh Mighty Khan. lol

I absolutely agree. On top of that, the lawyer’s game on recon is the most detrimental. Saint has mentioned that countless times.

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#544

Who else noticing their discipline and decision-making reach new levels?

I’ve been doing things I don’t even wanna do consistently, fighting against my feelings and emotions…

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#545

The opening phase is important, once the mind will become comfortable with the title you will be able to see the difference right away.

It is like riding a bicycle for the first time, scary but when you finally get the feel of it, it will become comfortable. The fear itself will not go away but you are better prepared.

By default we are aligned with human reasons for safety, only when we experienced the changed that we are more motivated to move forward.

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#546

I did the math. If done concurrently that would be 687 days

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#547

My diet and gym are on point hahaha

And I’m still on stage 1. I feel stage 2 I’ll reach new levels!

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#548

Yeah stage 2 is incredible man.

Willpower, focus, discipline… But the biggest thing is this aspect of conscious congruency. I’ve been in such direct alignment with what I should be doing at all times. You know that feeling when you say what your going to do and then achieve it? Thats what I’m talking about. Like doing the right things regardless of how you feel… Thats the best feeling of dominance and power ever.

Its literally like an internal David Goggins being built up rn.

I’m putting in Limitless Executive… Shit gonna turn me into Kobe Bryant

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#549

Bro…

I legit dont care at all for girls rn. This is so weird cause last time I ran khan all I thought about was girls and dating but this one is just freaking perfect. Its like Im getting the focus of Emperor with the results of Khan… Perfect. Man.

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#550

Ran my first 5 minutes of the new Khan Total Breakdown three days ago.

The recon is definitely there but most of the time it is more subtle and at times comes with short severe emotional peaks and outbursts. The outbursts only last between 5 and 20 minutes on average. During these outburst one is confronted with the deepest emotions that have to do with certain topics and that were previously surpressed deep in one’s subconscious mind.

Anyways, this is much better than the old Total Breakdown, because it is easier to be productive when the overall recon is more subtle and not like a fist beating you straight in your face 24/7.

And when the recon is over, one can feel that one has reached a new level of self esteem, self confidence and internal status.

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#551

@James you running Khan with indexgate ?

#552

Still, the action you will be able to take while running 1-4 for one cycle each will be much greater and will yield more profound results compared to taking action with 4 cycles of TB

Thanks to stage 2-4 you will acquire new skills, new power, new drive which stage 1 alone won’t give you, with the new found abilities you will possess on stages 2-4 you will be able to progress much faster

After all of the progression, going back to stage 1 will be easy, less recon and more results, it’s easier to keep on healing with stage 1 after you proved yourself with stages 2-4

If a person needs more than one cycle of stage 1 before he can actually get results from stage 2 then he clearly is not ready for Khan and needs to use a lighter healing title paired with a lighter alpha title

If you think you need 6 cycles of TB, you should run first 6 cycles of Ascension + Regeneration

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#555

I too want people to see other perspectives, im not fighting you im just presenting an alternative for people which i think will be more effective

@IRON i did one cycle of TB with great results, anxiety and fear reduced greatly, i have become calmer and i worry less, i have stronger control over my vices and addiction and i procrastinate less

Now im doing stage 2 and the confidence and power im feeling is much stronger than the previous stage, i feel as if the power os an energy running through my veins, i feel a stronger drive to achieve my goals and procrastination is almost non existent, first i finish all that i need to do and only then i consider eating and resting

My speech as improved greatly and so is my strategic thinking, im starting to see it not only in chess but also in real life

I have much more results to tell about but I don’t feel like writing everything, anyways, moving to stage 2 was the right call, i will finish the cycle and move on to stage 3 and 4 and repeat

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#556

perfect : ) Sounds fire!
Im glad to be on this Khan train with you all and seeing everyone getting Khanny here : )

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#557

More effective than what?

I didn’t say to run 24 cycles of TB in a row like it was exaggerated or counted in days. I just said that there should be much more exposure to TB than one or two cycles since pretty much all of us have a lot of societal programming to get rid of, and a lot of “beta” experiences to override.

Mind that I said that “passive” healing is limited, and we need positive experiences in order to overcome some issues very long time ago. I don’t think you were here to remember that.

Another point I made was that TB is not supposed to be considered as “passive” healing. The paradigm has shifted, now healing is “active”, even if it’s just introspecting.

:v:

Edit:

Here’s what I mean:

Edit2:

I don’t, mate. I’m just sharing my perspectives, experiences and insights like the one above or the one on Phoenix way above in this thread.

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#558

What a better way to override those “beta”
experiences than to have some “alpha” experiences with stages 2-4?

Of course stage 1 is important, but one cycle alone will clear some traumas and limiting beliefs and then the next stages will build upon the previous TB stage as much as possible, since one cycle already reduced the trauma and limiting beliefs the next stages can activate to some capacity

When you repeat the entire process and do TB again, the next stage 2-4 will act even better because you are even more healed and with even more positive experiences and repeat and repeat

As i said before, if you need 3 cycles of TB in a row before your subconscious mind can even think of allowing the scripting of stage 2 to manifest than you are not ready for Khan and you need a smaller healing title stacked with a smaller alpha title

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