Wishing you a great training and washout. 
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My first loop of stage one had me on the verge of tears and lying in bed for two days. Fast forward a week later, I’m light and at ease. I’m comforting some deeply vulnerable parts of myself that need stengrthing and I’m much better for it.
Great stuff.
Oddly feeling my self drive hitting overtime lately. Funny to see.
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Thought I’d share this
How would Essence: To Become the prize change a Khan based custom?
Would one still have that strong masculine pursuit?
What about adding her hunt your throne- is that module necessary with Essence: To become the prize?
If it added , how would it further alter/enhance the custom?
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SubliminalClub Support SupportMay 5, 2026 8:35 pm
Hello,
Good questions. Working through them in order.
How ESSENCE: To Become the Prize would change a Khan-based custom
The texture of Khan’s romantic expression would shift from “dominant man whose presence pulls women in” to “centered prize whom women actively pursue.” But this shift is smaller than it might first appear, because Khan’s romantic scripting already leans toward women being drawn to your magnificence rather than active pursuit on your part. Khan’s product copy describes women whose “eyes start glazing over as they witness your regal magnificence” — that’s already a “pulled toward you” dynamic. ESSENCE: To Become the Prize makes explicit and amplifies what Khan already implies.
What changes more concretely: the frame moves from “Will she want me?” to “Is she what I’m looking for?” You stop leaning forward in interactions and settle into a quieter, more selective center. Approaches become her idea. Escalation becomes her initiative. The internal architecture is one of completion-without-validation — and women sense that almost immediately.
Would you still have strong masculine pursuit?
Yes, but it’s worth separating two different things that “masculine pursuit” can mean.
Khan’s masculine drive is primarily about life-conquest, ambition, leadership, dominance, and the relentless willpower to build something earth-shaking. That dimension is untouched by ESSENCE: To Become the Prize — Khan still drives you toward conquest, mastery, status, success, and the strategic/leadership work that creates a Khan. None of that changes.
What does change is the romantic-pursuit dimension specifically. ESSENCE: To Become the Prize redirects the romantic dynamic from “I pursue her” to “she pursues me.” Some users describe this as feeling more masculine, not less, because the centered, abundant, unhurried frame has historically been associated with high-status masculinity. The Khan who doesn’t need to chase is a more powerful Khan than the Khan who does. Genghis didn’t ride to anyone — they came to him.
So if “masculine pursuit” means “ambition, drive, life conquest” — fully preserved.
If “masculine pursuit” means “actively chasing women” — that specifically softens. But what replaces it isn’t passivity; it’s selection. You’re still in command of the dynamic, just from a different angle.
Is Her Hunt, Your Throne necessary alongside ESSENCE: To Become the Prize?
No, it isn’t necessary. The two modules overlap significantly in core function — both are about being-pursued, being the prize, women taking the active role. You’d get the central dynamic from either one alone.
That said, they emphasize different layers of the same dynamic, and there’s a case for including both if you want the full saturation:
ESSENCE: To Become the Prize is more about the internal state — the unshakable center, the abundance frame, the quiet certainty, the absence of grasping. It changes who you are first, and the external behavior follows from that.
Her Hunt, Your Throne is more about the external behavioral mechanic — she takes the active role, makes the first moves, escalates contact, while you remain calm and receptive. Each action she takes reinforces your value in her eyes. It’s more behaviorally specific.
If added on top of ESSENCE: To Become the Prize
Adding Her Hunt, Your Throne would deepen and accelerate the being-pursued dynamic by reinforcing it from two directions at once: the internal state shift from ESSENCE: To Become the Prize plus the external behavioral pattern from Her Hunt, Your Throne. Practically, this might show up as faster expression of the dynamic, more obvious approach behavior from women, and a stronger sense of “playful tension” in interactions where she’s clearly investing.
The trade-off is that it uses a module slot. With a Khan-based custom, you’re already running a dense build, and adding two modules that cover similar ground when one might be enough is a question of priority. If the dynamic comes through well with just ESSENCE: To Become the Prize alone, you’ve saved a slot for something that adds a different dimension. If you want to drive the being-pursued frame as deeply as possible, both can work together.
My honest take: start with just ESSENCE: To Become the Prize. It’s distilled from WANTED, which is the entire major title built around this dynamic, so the module carries serious weight on its own. If after running the custom you feel the dynamic isn’t expressing strongly enough or you want to push it further, you can always add Her Hunt, Your Throne in a future revision. That’s a more efficient use of slots than committing both upfront.
Best regards,
Support Team
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So glad I waited before trying Khan. ST1 has given me the worst recon of my life. I’m talking lying in bed dealing with heart break. Yet its shown my exactly what a healthy attachment looks like and what I need from a a partner.
Recon isnt the enemy but its the worst friend ive ever met lol. Only 39 days to go.
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I can’t remember if I asked this
For sex- Khan (which stage?) or Wanted Black better? (like experience while having it)
For attracting someone inspired by people who are ambitious and on top of their game, getting sexual - Khan or Wanted Black? (Or Wanted Dream Boy if people find that for seduction good. I love a lot of the effects -but have not seen its seduction side as strongly as Khan or WB )
Khan’s the best bet here. The end goal is to make you an ambitious person who’s on top of your game. Once that’s apart of your baseline, you’re naturally attracting people who resonate with that.
I figure dedicated seduction titles (Black and Dream Boy) are better here since they have more room for sexual experience enhancement scripting. Ive heard seduction titles have some sexual mastery in them too.
Dream boy is incredible for seduction once you’ve developed your signature presence and style. That’s the dirty work of person development and inner work. Dream boy’s taking me to my fuckboy era and I owe it to figure my shit out. I’m looking forward to Dream boy and Khan S4 at the end of the year.
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Thanks
I figured, and that’s been my experience so far, but I went into doubt with a certain situation.
So you find Dream Boy great in the bedroom as well? That’s good to hear. Khan has sexual mastery in it as well, in later stages, I believe, but it might shine through more in smaller, focused titles. WB is amazing in the bedroom. My experience while running Khan is less. Khan Stage 2 was decent. Emperor Daddy was really good as well.
Love it. My experience on it from my runs has been fantastic for social and connections, definitely romantic tones, but I didn’t get the same physical escalation as quickly with WB. But I can see great potential sexually with it as well when I hit a certain groove, just have not gotten my angle on that fully yet. Have you run WDB with Khan any of the stages at all yet?
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Oh yea, Saint confirmed this from the get go. Folks were worried about it being too ‘soft’ lol. Some fun sexual experiences with dream boy:
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Best friend steals me from a my date (“I’m stealing your date” their words), drags me to their place and insists I sleep in their bed naked.
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5 minutes into a movie, valentine’s date started masturbating on my couch. I went down on her and we hade marathon sex before our reservations.
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Spontaneous threesome at a sex club the next day.
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Long time friend and party hostess squeezes past me in a crowd only to grab two hand fulls of my waist and grope my hips.
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Ex girlfriend recently invited herself into my bed after a night of club, slid her hand up my shit then grabbed my cock. She asked “why’s it so hard” when I asked what she meant, she squeezed again, then kissed me goodnight.
Sounds about right. Think I’ll give sexual mastery a chance early next year and see how it stacks up
Yup. I plan on starting a recap jounral this week.
I’m 21 days into a 60 day cycle of stage one. Dream Boy helps smooth the Khan’s rough edges. I’m glad I stick with dream boy for so long. Seeing DWB’s successes resonate, even at the worst of Khan’s recon, helps with processing and moving forward.
My goal is to to cultivate the benevolent ruler archetype/presence. Loved > fear; the late stage depiction of Genghis Khan for you history fans. Khan offers grounding, ambitious and presence. Dream Boy offers that magnetic, dreamy presence you find in a Kennedy. It’s all super-charged by Main Character Energy (in dream boy) and rounded off by Stabilizer.
All that aside, ST4 Khan with my eventual Dream Boy Custom will take my fuckboy era to new heights. I’ve ready done the harem thing (pre subs). Excited to see what comes next.
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awesome, great results. Thanks for your experience and perspective.
Is the main character energy confirmed in Dream Boy, or did you add it in custom?
it’s a brand new module.
On which stage did you see things really start to take off.
What was happening during stage 2 for you?
Khan S2 and Dream Boy have an interesting effect on my romantic life. On one hand, they’ve jump started my fuck boy era: effortless hook ups, a growing roster of play partners, lost connections suddenly re-appearing, dates with long-time crushes. on the hand, it’s stirring some long dormant feelings in my best friend. Last night he confronted me about a hookup I went on while sleeping over at his place. I’ve always been upfront about my sex life with him and encourage no lying between us. Was surprised to see how quickly he went from “hey, you don’t owe me an explanation to”… “what the hell…”
Low key, I love when he’s possessive but this felt out of pocket. He’s my dream boy, but we aren’t together. I’m giving him space over the next week for things to cool down and to reassess. We might need the dreaded commitment talk.
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How do you guys find the intelligence scripting in Khan ?. The last time i used khan was when thr first zp version came out.
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How are you finding Khan?
I’m thinking of eventually switching out emperor over it
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ST1 was intense. Running that an Stabilizer on at the same time lead to daily breakthroughs and intense recon.
I see stage 2 take shape, but one cycle (even with the my 10-week listening plan) doesn’t feel like enough time. Tempted to run Stage 2 for 60 listening days before moving on. On the other hand, I can always revisit 2 after a full Khan run
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Some long term strategy - yes. I did nod find it enough for day to day IT work.
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Noticed the different stages have different demands on my body. With ST1 the demand was emotional. I needed more rest and distance from negative influences. With ST2 The demand is much more physical. More sleep, more food, more water. Mind you, I don’t see this as a net negative. ST2 forced me to standardized meals, invest more into hydration and even improve the quality of my sleep. I was sleeping so much more I actually bought a new box sprint, now I sleep like a dream
I wonder how ST3 will shake out.
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I want to share a couple Khan results I’ve had and am starting to experience more strongly and consistently
This comes when I run Khan stage 2 in a custom with True Social/ NWE or Khan stage 2 solo
I start attracting the most attractive woman with whom I feel a crazy sexual chemistry. They show up out of the blue and hover strongly. And when I say attractive, I mean like the most attractive for me I can imagine, actually, often more than I can imagine.
With Wanted variants, I see this less when running with Khan. If ASBR/C&C is too strongly in my stack I see this less as well. Although I do have Essence: To be the Prize in my Khan custom as well- and that increases the overt actions these woman take.
A few days ago, I was on the phone doing a coaching call on a headset, and this incredibly sexy woman across the street saw me, stopped, did a double-take, walked backward to get from where I was, and just proceeded to smoke three cigarettes in a row, literally staring at me and making prolonged eye contact while I had my call for like ten minutes. I was very comfortable looking back in appreciation. She was in her early twenties and had a strong, open energy, but also was kind of nervous. It was an important call, and I was not going to get off the phone to talk to her, though I did consider it. I could feel the sexual energy between us from across the street to the point where I’ve been in my head about attraction lately, and this was like a wave in my body that I was receiving. She then walked across the street towards me (keep in mind) she was originally going in the other direction and went super close. I felt like if I reached out my hand, we could have started something there.
At the gym, same thing, the woman I am most attracted to was vibing like that. The best part is I feel like a total boss and am letting go of the ‘validation’ of it all of it. I can feel where there is this little kid in me that feels so validated and hopeful, and there is this new part or evolution of my self. It’s kind of like I’m a ‘fxx’ it, this is my life, and happens and I’ve so much options and important stuff it just is what it is. It feels like sexual power, and woman can’t help but respond. It’s kind of intoxicating. This one girl’s boyfriend, who seems like a really good-looking, confident guy, looked at me, and I could tell -with no anger- but respect, he saw me as a threat. In my head, I was like, " Oh, this is cool’ this feels right.
I have also made a conscious effort to develop myself as a man this way, and my results for Khan started kicking in more strongly when I chose that, rather than being directed towards something else. They also started kicking really strongly after a two-week period of feeling like a total loser for losing out on someone I was crazy romantically interested in and feeling like I had to process a lot pain that was in the way anyway.They were there but much more mitigated.
Today, on a zoom this girl reached out to me on text and said I looked really good and started sending me audio message complimenting me on a bunch of different things.
I do think- Essence: To become the prize is playing in here-in terms of them coming to me. But I’ve run Khan without it, and the overall effect is similar. I’m seeing this is like sales or any other work or endeavor. There’s like a click to keep working towards where results show up, and then fully change my reality.
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To become the prize is based on Wanted I guess?
Yeah Khan as strong attractive women manifestations! I felt it more on stage 4
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Yea. It’s in new wanted.
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