I spent a cycle on every stage. I always have the urge to restrain myself and convince myself to not progress to the next stage, but this time I said to myself to just go to the next one, I can handle some recon, and if it’s not enough I will do all 4 stages again after. But it’s been very manageable.
Stage 1 made me dig really deep into what drives and motivates me. Stage 2 gave me quite some recon and was the hardest stage for me. It made me very confrontational with things I would have let slide in the past. Stage 3 was like stage 2 on steroids but the recon was less. And now stage 4 is like smooth sailing, very tranquil but still very masculine at the same time. I’ve never felt so confident about myself.
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So I did end up creating a playlist last night with these 3 and ran the playlist (non loop) as I slepton ultrasonic. Had an absolutely amazing day… went to the gym first thing in the morning, strength and pump was impeccable… rest of the day was great and productive…
Since my shadow work I find that these subs just integrate better as Ive given them full permission to bring up as much shame, guilt, and fear as they’d like cz I eat them for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
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I’m sensing some level above ST2 like Khan ST3 and/or KB ST1 or ST3. Just an analysis based on increased vitality and gym drive. What stages are you running, out of curiosity?
I always find others effects profiles on these fascinating because it helps everyone get a general picture on day-to-day expectations. What are your goals with Renaissance Man? Have you made any creations yet to activate it and anchor it in? I find this stack intriguing. The gym I find is the best and swiftest anchor and booster for most subliminals here. When in doubt, I hit the gym. Then it sets a feedback loop.
Things like Wanted, Khan, and the modules speed up the already natural processes for someone with strong meta cognitive awareness.
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My playlist had Khan St 4, KB St 4, Renaissance Man
Instead of focusing on which subs I must run consistently I’ve been focusing on 3 core pillars for myself
- Gravity and Power
- Sexual Radiance, Magnetism, and Confidence
- Expression/Communication and Intellect
And I keep switching subs ensuring I stay within these 3 key pillars. Some days I feel like running Primal, some days Emperor Black, and some days one of my customs that have HoM, AoW etc. similarly QL, Limitless, BL, and recently Raikov have been my favourites, and for KB, WB, or a Primal Custom that I loooove (PS+PR+KB3)
Disclaimer: Please don’t try this at home.
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considering in making a Primal + Khan + Heartsong QTKS once I get back to stage 4 (after two cycles of each stage).
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Halfway done with Khan ST1, and it made me realize the nature of Khan. Before it charges forward, one goes downwards into the caverns of the mine (mind), even trudging through murky waters and digging through various structures, some even collapsing. Will one collapse under the rubble of what is within, or do they prevail? Do they lead themself through the darkness?
A colleague that happens to be a certified mental health counselor recommended EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing), and mentioned that it can be virtual and self-administered at home. I immediately fell in love with the concept and thought aha 
, this can work with subliminals.
I’ve began my first sessions with this cycle of Khan ST1 to desensitize myself to different triggers and recon. It naturally functions like the rhythm of cycles.
First, you deconstruct the negatives and triggers, and then you install positive beliefs. It’s as if I’m doing 2 stages (Total Breakdown and Total Reprogramming) through a therapeutic, healing modality that doesn’t seem to conflict with it, though it augments it. I just felt my subconscious light up while writing this.
EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) works by using bilateral stimulation (like eye movements, taps, or tones) while you focus on a traumatic memory to help your brain reprocess it, similar to what happens in REM sleep, reducing its emotional charge and allowing it to be stored adaptively so it no longer feels as distressing (Google AI)
“A structured therapy that encourages the patient to briefly focus on the trauma memory while simultaneously experiencing bilateral stimulation (typically eye movements), which is associated with a reduction in the vividness and emotion associated with the trauma memories.” - American Psychological Association, Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy
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I love the idea. I haven’t incorporated in consistently, but I think it’s a simple and valuable tool. (eMDR)
Usually when I’m working through triggers or trauma, there’s loads of resistance on top that needs to be let go before I can process the suppressed sensations/emotions. I wonder how this helps with that.
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how do you feel this sub differens from previous versions.
Stage 2 and on?
Have you tried Crown & Capital? How do you feel it compares to HOM?
I’d say C&C is HoM with a lot more Gravitas. Tbf it has dropped at the perfect time in my self discovery journey, and especially aligns with the shadow work I started in May 2025. I see C&C as the perfect tool to help me turn into a strong container that will allow the Crown (mind) to efficiently and effectively create, manage, and channel the Capital (primal self, sexual energy aka wealth) with the help of self mastery and structure. All that doesn’t necessarily need to be listed in the Objectives list, but when you think about what kind of man would be able to manifest such a reality that is listed, you’ll realize it wouldn’t be a man who is a slave to his own impulses, nor a monk who lives in a vacuum thinking sex, pleasures, money etc are bad or “sin”, it will be a man who is Sovereign, who loves to taste fine wine and beautiful women because he chooses to, not because he is being held hostage by his own impulses and desires. He doesn’t need anyone or anything, he can get off the negotiation table with perfect detachment, but when he chooses to - he can also become an apex predator.
Being able to voluntarily contain the charge is what makes us magnetic. It is very different from repression due to shame or guilt. A C&C man will be the eye of the storm, calm yet attentive, aware of every fine detail around him so he can tweak the perfect structure as needed to conjure up the most powerful storm.
Edit: All that being said, I am quite keen to see the dynamics evolve if I stack it with subs like ASBR, NR etc.
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beatufiully said.
Is this based on experience so far of running it or from the copy?
If you’ve run it do you feel the same rapport and social qualities in HOM? It seems like quite a different sub to me, much more like Emperor or even Khan in terms of individualization.
It is a lot more stable than Khan, maybe it’s just me but Khan is very volatile, or maybe I am not a strong enough container yet to be able to utilize the charge that Khan generates, that’s where C&C come in, il try Khan again in a few months.
It’s from personal experience but bear in mind that I’ve built up to using C&C, for the past few months I’ve ran Emb Black, WTP, AoW etc because I knew what I need to work on and also knew that a title named C&C would need this foundation (and when it came out it was exactly what I expected, and more)
At the moment I have C&C, QL, and my PS-PR-KBSt3 (Custom) in my stack with occasional runs of Raikov
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I’ve run HOM/ASBR in a custom for a year.
This sub is nothing like HOM to me. I kind of wish they updated HOM directly and made this a sequel. (take with a grain of salt as still in recon potentially)
I could see Emb Black, AOW, and WTP being incredible precursors to this.
Looking forward to hearing your results.
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Ease of use.
The old one was pretty hard core. The new one is easy enough to run that a beginner can do it.
Started my brother on it 4 months ago.
3 cycles on ST1, now finishing his first cycle of ST2 and he’s doing amazing.
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I agree old khan was really rough. This new one is smooth.
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Idk yet man, could be overall density of stack, would give it some time. Sales and rapport still feel strong, has quicked up quite a bit with little effort since starting. I’d judge it by the #s and commission after a couple months rather than how you feel during a call.
Although, may be different with what your doing, for corporate B2B world it is pretty spot on to what I was looking for.
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Try stacking it with GLM:C. I agree it does feel different from HoM but in my case this is exactly what I was looking for so I am not disappointed. I still have the old HoM.
Yes all, even social.
Wealth is tricky though.
I’ve mostly stacked it with a wealth subliminal for that. The most it helped me with in terms of wealth is from the action-taking and fire to get out of the comfort zone.
95% of the everyday people I talk to about wealth generation are in the “vague idea” phase. They either have no idea what to do, or have some semblance of an idea, and sit there twiddling the thumbs because they’re afraid to fail, get out of the comfort zone, etc.
If you do nothing, then you don’t get any iterative feedback to progress. Khan has played a massive role in helping me integrate this core principle - that if you have something or want something, you go for it, and you’re quick. There’s no waiting, looking around for permission, looking around for security, all of this looking around nonsense, like a lost child’s eyes darting around in the supermarket looking for its parent. You take action, you learn, and you get better. Right away. Not being at peace with an outcome or failure - but thriving for it because you know it’s growth feedback that you can soak in like a sponge to level up. Khan is growth mindset on steroids for me. Of course this is within a practical framework, where you want to have a strong plan, and certainty with what you’re investing time or money into… however in most cases, that’s rarely ever the hang-up - people are just lazy, timid, and unmotivated. They’ve given up on a battle that they have every right to win. Khan acts as a powerful reminder. On Emperor it was similar, but I’d still experience trepidation with certain actions. On Khan it happens very rarely, which I attribute to the growth in mindset. I hesitated once on Khan with something, and it was a learning experience which I came out of with the unshakable discipline of “I’m never doing this again”. The bar gets raised and it’s not always pleasant. When you stack this with a wealth subliminal like Nouveau R.I.C.H. - you’ll get great ideas and be absolutely, and I mean absolutely relentless in taking action on them. The “damn, what’s gotten into you” type of action because the action itself, the lure of trajectory, and putting your idea, vision, and enactment into fruition through will means so much to you and your standards, who you are, who you aspire to be, and most of all what you owe to yourself… there’s so much energy that goes into it that you’re bound to leave an indelible mark. And that becomes the standard. The only standard.
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I have a tradition of starting a new year with Khan/Khan Black.
My first Khan run wasn’t that great, active results wise.
But passively, when I reran my Ascension/LB custom afterwards, it hit much much deeper.
Right know I’m rerunning KB. And this also hitting way deeper than the first time.
Your Posts fills my heart with delight when I think about starting 2027 with Khan again.
Maybe even in ZPU? @AnswerGroup
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