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I’ve run HOM/ASBR in a custom for a year.

This sub is nothing like HOM to me. I kind of wish they updated HOM directly and made this a sequel. (take with a grain of salt as still in recon potentially)

I could see Emb Black, AOW, and WTP being incredible precursors to this.

Looking forward to hearing your results.

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Ease of use.

The old one was pretty hard core. The new one is easy enough to run that a beginner can do it.

Started my brother on it 4 months ago.

3 cycles on ST1, now finishing his first cycle of ST2 and he’s doing amazing.

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I agree old khan was really rough. This new one is smooth.

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Idk yet man, could be overall density of stack, would give it some time. Sales and rapport still feel strong, has quicked up quite a bit with little effort since starting. I’d judge it by the #s and commission after a couple months rather than how you feel during a call.

Although, may be different with what your doing, for corporate B2B world it is pretty spot on to what I was looking for.

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Try stacking it with GLM:C. I agree it does feel different from HoM but in my case this is exactly what I was looking for so I am not disappointed. I still have the old HoM.

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Yes all, even social.

Wealth is tricky though.

I’ve mostly stacked it with a wealth subliminal for that. The most it helped me with in terms of wealth is from the action-taking and fire to get out of the comfort zone.

95% of the everyday people I talk to about wealth generation are in the “vague idea” phase. They either have no idea what to do, or have some semblance of an idea, and sit there twiddling the thumbs because they’re afraid to fail, get out of the comfort zone, etc.

If you do nothing, then you don’t get any iterative feedback to progress. Khan has played a massive role in helping me integrate this core principle - that if you have something or want something, you go for it, and you’re quick. There’s no waiting, looking around for permission, looking around for security, all of this looking around nonsense, like a lost child’s eyes darting around in the supermarket looking for its parent. You take action, you learn, and you get better. Right away. Not being at peace with an outcome or failure - but thriving for it because you know it’s growth feedback that you can soak in like a sponge to level up. Khan is growth mindset on steroids for me. Of course this is within a practical framework, where you want to have a strong plan, and certainty with what you’re investing time or money into… however in most cases, that’s rarely ever the hang-up - people are just lazy, timid, and unmotivated. They’ve given up on a battle that they have every right to win. Khan acts as a powerful reminder. On Emperor it was similar, but I’d still experience trepidation with certain actions. On Khan it happens very rarely, which I attribute to the growth in mindset. I hesitated once on Khan with something, and it was a learning experience which I came out of with the unshakable discipline of “I’m never doing this again”. The bar gets raised and it’s not always pleasant. When you stack this with a wealth subliminal like Nouveau R.I.C.H. - you’ll get great ideas and be absolutely, and I mean absolutely relentless in taking action on them. The “damn, what’s gotten into you” type of action because the action itself, the lure of trajectory, and putting your idea, vision, and enactment into fruition through will means so much to you and your standards, who you are, who you aspire to be, and most of all what you owe to yourself… there’s so much energy that goes into it that you’re bound to leave an indelible mark. And that becomes the standard. The only standard.

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I have a tradition of starting a new year with Khan/Khan Black.
My first Khan run wasn’t that great, active results wise.

But passively, when I reran my Ascension/LB custom afterwards, it hit much much deeper.

Right know I’m rerunning KB. And this also hitting way deeper than the first time.

Your Posts fills my heart with delight when I think about starting 2027 with Khan again.

Maybe even in ZPU? @AnswerGroup

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Can’t wait to pair this Khan custom with C&C:

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The thing I never got about reconciliation fog is okay let’s say your mind is resisting the change so it convinces you that nothing is happening…so you can drop the sub.

if nothing is happening and there’s no change then there wouldn’t be a need to change/drop the sub because it would be like listening to ocean waves…no effect whatsoever.

And its not like you are listening to a lecture for hours on end that need your attention, mental resource, time etc…nope

just 15 mins or less, every other day, or every other 2-3 days rest…

so its definitely some deep internal change happening thats testing your current belief system, but its using emotional triggers to convince you otherwise because logically it doesn’t make sense to quit a sub thats not working or not changing anything

at least thats my logic/opinion

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Ok
So I finally ran my Khan ST4 and WB loop, pretty ballsy of me.
Ran WB for around a month, not much recon but not much results, some spiritual practice which I got initiated into was being properly learned by me so the process caused some energetic destablizations, otherwise I would’ve gotten romantic results, apart from great social results and increased women attention.
I also have some unsuccessful experience with khan, because of my unbalanced psychological foundation in the past.

So right now after I reached the minimum “normal” psychological balance, the continouous improvements after that, and the intoxication I get from my spiritual practice, I decided to consider Khan+WB.
So I ran a loop of KST1, after a few minutes I decided to run WB because last loop was around 20 days ago, went for a walk and ran KST4 on the way because I wanted to know if the Khan Complete has contradiction with WB and if they can be stacked, didn’t want to wait for the whole 3 months to find out.
Realized different more aggressive responses from people, but I was calm, collected and extra nice, a compensation for my overwhelming power maybe, smoothing out life is always necessary, being too masculine or feminine on an energetic level make things ugly, and also the “being fine anyways and regardless” part is also necessary to handle the challenges one faces on this combo.
Came back to my hotel, rested a bit, no recon, a little bit of concern wether the combo will synergize or not.
Did my 2nd spiritual practice, thank god I was able to do it in a balanced and normal manner, meaning the effects of the combo is mental rather than energetic (I don’t mean the auras).
Did the practice well, went out to get food, good attention, ok.
But there are much more difficult challenges than being on any of these titles solo.
For example I asked for a certain food in a restaurant and the guy said yes we have it, I went in and turns out he didn’t have it, I was kinda manipulated into buying from them or a little extreme version of manipulation, when I found out I was not fazed, I asked if another restautant has full chicken. He said no and he was honest with it, then I decided to buy from him(all of these are signs of grace which the other person notices) he was making the payment with my card and with taking I realized he didn’t have just chicken sandwiches (he manipulated me by saying “yeah we got chicken”) I said ok get me this and everything, and I said first you said this but it was like this but I had a friendly disposition towards it I was even laughing a bit about it. Like “ok you manipulated me and now I’m buying from you”
type of thing and he smiled, meaning he came under my spell a bit. This is tremendous growth, this much restraint on one’s ego.
One thing I’m concerned about is that I also wanna be able to capitalize on the social capital I get from the combo. There is this concern that there will be comstant creation of social capital but no using of it, because of WB’s “being above it all” type of thing. Let’s see, most likely I might be wrong. Because I have a balanced masculine energy and that will do the provision and I’m not greedy or someone who just wants to gather.

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The incidents I talked about were reconciliation, which I passed gracefully.
Now those stuff are not here, but if anything, the results seem to be reversed, meaning amplified social capital, my behavior has changed, not necessarily nice, but there is a certain change.

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So wait, are you going to run the rest ofbkhan or not?

Don’t think so :grin:
Last night I was actually debating if I made a mistake and if I should’ve started from beginning as the description explicitly says that I will fail. But I don’t think that’s true literally, since the changes are streamlining pretty seamlessly today and it’s the start of 3rd rest day, I had some over exposure due to a loop of KST1.
So I don’t think I necessarily need to go through all stages. I think all Khan stages have basically the same concepts but they get intensified on the next stage. There’s specific themes for each stage, but only to a certain extent, one sensitive enough will feel the urge to take action on KST1, and one will inevitably take action on ST2, while ST3 is the “Total action” so I though it’s majorly a matter of density. Healing need not/doesn’t happen as a saperate process, subliminal results automatically heal one/change the beliefs. So KST4 results automatically change my beliefs but it’s more rough due to large input. There might be a saperate element of action which is not paired with having realizations before taking it. That could be a matter of little concern, but if one is fluid enough in their energies, fundamental changes can happen quite fast after the first loop of KST4 without needing to run the other stages. Didn’t have any rough social experiences during the reconciliation, maybe one very little and short argument which seemed to be a “situation manifestation” of Khan, but no biggie, I actually had a minor mental imbalance which came up to surface in the past few days due to my spiritual practice an last night I reached a new level of intensity by fixing it and then when I got balanced again the recon got resolved much faster today. But even with that, I haven’t had any problems, IMO a very large part of recon I experienced was due to that minor imbalance which I got aware of and fixing it led to more balance than ever, and that conincided with this not so easy combo haha.

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What do you see as a result once you’ve add kst4?

Do you feel there are more women around?

First day there were old women haha, sth to do with my past experience with Khan or the combo maybe.
I was worried if the directness and active work of Khan would contradict WB.
Now they are seamless, but be ready to chase for sometime or at least for transition WB’s nonchalance to Khan’s initial challenges. People will ghost you and stuff, because you’re breaking the coquettish pattern and now that they got the opportunity they wanna be the chased one. Not for long though😂.
Once you establish that contact and that frame, then they’re under your spell again but with the results you typically get from Khan, leadership, admiration, VIP treatment and everything. Those who you haven’t talked to, to them you get more silent, you draw them, a lot of attention on this combo. There is a certain regality in your behavior. Honestly there’s nothing such as no synergy, there’s always synergy as long as you’re psychologically balanced. I’m actively working and introspecting on being my dream self. The mystery and the power auras integrate seamlessly day by day until I reach my baseline level of intelligence in my day to day actions wihtout the need make mistakes in order to mystify Khan’s clarity.
You be yourself and the result of both subliminals are there, pretty dope, but pretty difficult for the average forum user. The coquettery, mystery, dominance, leadership and everything else flows seamlessly as a mix in the moment. A lot of attention from me and women in a restaurant for example, and I kinda control the atmosphere with my least subcommunications from 10 meters. So that engagement is Khan’s directness, but the subcommunications are of WB and a lot of other components in one moment. After Khan’s power and status, the subcommunications have gotten much much subtler and lesser like I don’t smile, it’s a very little change in my facial lr my energy and it affects them, they become loud and fun, then they become silent, like I’ve gone cold…
Talked to my mom, she didn’t answer me in the chasing part and didn’t call me in around 2 days that I didn’t have internet connection, also had some recon and the psychological imbalance I talked about which caused a little grossness in my behavior, maybe the recon would’ve subsided much much faster, today I called her and cut the call after 3 beeps and cut the call because I was balanced and maybe she was busy…she called back immediately, there was element of genuine honesty like she proposed sth to me, I politely rejected and explained, then she challenged me with a little rudeness, I was graceful and strong. And then she started admiring me AND chasing me. The key is your psersonal stree threshold or your ability to be fine regardless what your ego says and your psychological/energetic balance.
And I’m not ALWAYS chasing, it’s not that I don’t have any respect for myself, you just try to change the dynamics of your existing social connections, there will be a change, but once the new frame is established, they’ll pick up ASAP or maybe even call you.
Great experience, much better than any of them solo, not much experience with Khan solo after my good mental health though.

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Wanted haa some women chase me a bit.
But it’s very boring sometimes because sometimes if I see a girl I want to talk to it’s not easy on something like Wanted.

I thought to combine Khan with it in the future.
I used to run Khan and New Wanted with too much difference of the styles.
But I have a feel WDB would be more synergistic combo.

I’ve started to build a good base with WDB and New Wanted that I have a feeling this time around WB would work better.
I remember attracting some very beautiful women on WB.

With Khan it was a hard ride for me did 1 cycle of each stage it was not easy.

Try a spiritual practice to build your foundations. Mind doesn’t do much compared to energetic practices.
If you’re miserable then you’re miserable, doesn’t matter if your run LB or whatever.
Working with the mind alone won’t make you psychologically balanced or change your fundamentals, it’s your energy. Work on your energy and you won’t need my advice.

What type of spiritual practice?
Give me some examples

My review of WB+Khan

Any, QiGong, yoga etc. Just make sure it balances your masculine and feminine, expands each(intellect and vitality expansion and ego dissolution), and also being blissful, I guess that’s about it. But I can’t help you with a specific teacher or person, you have to find it yourself.

Edit: The women and people’s reactions and favoristism(is that even a word?) are INSANE on this combo.
Guess I’m the new flow factor guy on the forum, except @Fire for sure :sweat_smile:. I do get a little tired though.
Since 1st April, I ran 2 loops of WB, 2 loops of KST4 and 1 loop of KST1.
Edit 2: Guess I’m the 1st one who made the NEW Khan and WB work seamlessly :sunglasses:, haven’t git laid yet but I see it achievable, I can harness this combo’s power, I can see how to get her to bed. This will always be my stack unless I go into solitude.

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I went to deep sleep and woke up and now the two archetype are infused together, at least to a certain extent. It’ssss different. There were two instances where I kind of dominated two people, both are usually problematic people, like the losers who hate you on Khan.

@SaintSovereign one more request on WB update.
In a sense, WB is the counterpart of Khan, stackability of the two is greath though, maybe this is the reason.
For example, the dominance of Khan can kinda show itself as mystery because it’s polite and polite and snaps until the other gets cocky and makes a mistake, just like I snap at people on WB.Or the emotional regulation and speech refinement of WB can be the counterpart of Khan’s power talk and self-control, things like that.
So I request if possible, you could still update WB in such a way that this “connection” or “parallel” is still kept and even refined from a concept standpoint. If it’s updated to a point where Khan needs to catch up concept wise, for them to be perfect counterparts again, I also get that :pray:t2:. But I think there is this parallel thing between these 2 and I thoughtmentioning it could be helpful.

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