Emperor is a very broad title, that’s why maybe.
Crown & Capital is even broader than Emperor. Possibly the single broadest title ever released. Doesn’t necessarily means it would be “harder” to run. It could take more time to master because it contains many more elements than the regular Emperor. Whether it’s “harder to run” is a matter of personal circumstances.
The original Emperor took me a long time to even see the first results. When I started seeing results, they were significant. HoM gave me massive recon at first. I had to give up. Then I tried again later and it was very smooth and results came fast. Way faster than Emperor. Even though HoM was a bigger and denser sub than Emperor.
Crown & Capital so far has been super smooth for me. I’m running 7 minutes with no recon, and results (especially on the Crown side) have been fast and obvious.
I once described HoM as an identity-level shifting type of sub. Crown & Capital seems to go even farther than that. I feel like it’s the type of sub that could take me two or three years to fully integrate. But it’s not hard to run. At least not for me.
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I’m just judging based on the difference in “complexity” and “difficulty” metrics on the charts. If ECC is broader, it should mean the complexity is higher, as per its definition:
How many interacting layers and moving parts the combination creates. Higher complexity means more simultaneous growth vectors that your subconscious needs to integrate at once.
But it is shown being lower for ECC compared to OG Emperor
I can understand lower difficulty though, probably due to newer tech:
How demanding this stack is on your mental and emotional processing resources. Higher values mean the stack requires more energy to run and may need more rest days between loops.
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@anon15812918 : I don’t look at those charts. I don’t even try to understand them to be honest with you. I go by my own experience. The OG Emperor was hard for me because of where I was in life at that point. The following releases were easier but still hard. The very last release of Emperor was easy to run. Maybe because I had already integrated so much of the previous releases. Crown & Capital is a sub that seems tailor-made for me at this point of my life. Even more than HoM was. I’m not surprised it’s easy for me because almost 100% of it is what I was looking for. The tech got significantly better too. So I’m not surprised I don’t feel any recon. Like I said it’s a matter of personal circumstances.
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Suggestion:
What about creating a community chart section?
So we’ll have 2 charts: the current one and another one from the community.
It can be based on the average/median of the values voted by us,
or we can make our own version of the chart individually with an upvote system.
Maybe in the form of a heatmap to better gauge the community’s sentiment on the chart.
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There are two Moguls. First is just a regular Mogul, second is Gen: Mogul.
@SaintSovereign and @Fire i usually never compliment support as in the past it was always slow but I have to say I’m extremely impressed and happy with the new support site. I’ve had every single of my tickets answered in less than 3 days which has almost never happened in the 4-5 years since I’ve been a SC customer.
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What is the point of it if it doesn’t have actual distinct data about the titles and it’s just another AI just guessing.
Emp Daddy stacks extremely well BY DESIGN with Primal Romance but the synergy values is much lower than WB+Khan stack synergy. I actually ran Khan+WB because of trusting in the stack planner. But now I think it’s just something to tickle your imagination rather than something more tangible. Yes there are personal factors affevting everyone’s results, but if there’s a point to labs, then I think it would be better if it could have a more structured database and idea about the titles.
It’s definitely helpful because it’s not nothing, but I think it can be imporved upon by giving the user more structured ideas or being more critical rather than just letting the imagination flow, otherwise I don’t see the difference between this and asking GPT or Grok to paint a picture of the stack.
This gift is still appreciated 
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Who says it doesn’t have distinct data about the titles?
There’s just FOUR THOUSAND COMBINATIONS. We can’t catch everything.
It’s a prototype, as I have pointed out multiple times. The goal is to get feedback for future iterations and updates. Point out anything that seems off so that we can refine it. The same exact process we used to create the titles. Iterative refinement. Release, get feedback, refine, release, get feedback, refine, release. This is how we do everything at Subliminal Club.
The whole purpose of the prototype is to get the feedback of seasoned users and then refine it. As always.
If you prefer Grok or GPT, by all means do so.
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Hero Origins + Khan custom…
smackslips
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Last night I asked Grok if WB and Khan can be contradictory based on it’s logic and the description of the two products rather than any subclub opinions, founders or customers. Then it was pretty sure that no, there is no contradiction and they’re actually complimentary to each other. This actually made me more confident about the combo as I was facing some reconciliation. That thing is really smart.
Another important matter apart from the distinct exclusive data to the qOS seems to be it’s own intelligence. And development of an AI as intelligent as Grok let’s say, can be quite resources and time consuming.
And despite the exclusive data this prototype is provided with, it still doesn’t feel like it has a structured feeling of stacks IYKWIM. It’s more of an imagination based on products’ descriptions let’s say and not much more. This is my feedback, hope it helps.
Can we have this for customs too?
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For anyone desperately grasping at conclusive, definitive reassurances about the precise directions and destinations of personal growth, remember the statement included with every single program:
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It is impossible to list every single benefit or objective of the subliminal due to the way our subliminals are created. They create holistic change that are deeply personal and individual to every single user, so while two individuals might see similar effects, someone else will likely have different experiences. Listing all potential avenues of growth and benefits is simply impossible — but through experience with the subliminal and introspection you can grasp the overall growth direction of the subliminal. Always remember that you are a unique individual with your very own journey, history and life, and our subliminals take that as well as your conscious guidance into account and work with you and who you truly are. In other words, even if an objective/feature/benefit that you want is not listed on the page, it does not mean you won’t experience it as long as the topic of the subliminal is connected to the desired effect.
Furthermore, if you haven’t experienced a specific objective / feature / benefit on the page (or unstated) yet, it does not mean you won’t — it simply means other things are taking precedence and have a much higher priority as dictated by the intricate interplay between your conscious guidance, your situation, your subconscious mind and the subliminal. Finally, there are countless more benefits and features to discover with each subliminal — each subliminal is so much more than a simple list. It is an invaluable companion on your journey that grows with you — indeed, our subliminals can be used indefinitely and throughout your whole life, they will always help you develop in new ways you never expected. Have patience, listen wisely, always be taking action in line with the subliminal and don’t let the list limit you, the subliminal or the experiences you will go through.
This is creative ontological growth. That’s what the subconscious mind is fundamentally about and that’s what we’re working with here. Inspiration and possibility are specifically what it’s made of.
That’s not a bug; it’s a feature.
There is no substitute for going out and living your own life. This will never become obsolete.
The sooner you accept this is the sooner that every resource, every teacher, every practice is freed up to begin beautifying and enhancing your life, rather than needing to be responsible for saving, justifying, or legitimizing your life.
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We’ve got it from here.
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Remember, if something like this happens again, please flag the post(s) and turn your attention to making your life better in the ways that you want.
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Labs is GREAT!
Can we get the individual stages of Hero: The Light that Blinds added in? I would love to see specific stage combinations with other subs, and with each other as well.
Seriously, mad props.
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Chosen and lots would be a smash broëthêř
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@SaintSovereign @Malkuth and everyone else.
I apologize for how I came across the other day and you had to see that behavior.
I’m doing a spiritual practice and after around 9 months of practice I’m still learning different parts of it, so before a breakthrough, there’s always some energetic imbalance, which now they are much less intense and short lived, because I get aware of them and resolve them. Don’t know if any gonna happen, but if it does, it’ll much less intense and short lived than the last time. So I hope you bear with me because it will be really temporary, especially considering the stack I have Khan+WB, the reconciliation (which I never get even on this combo unless I overexpose a lot or have energetic imbalance) can be really dramatic. I generally came across too cocky from the beginning.
And yes, after optimizing my practice to this new level, NO RECONCILIATION on Khan+WB and I’m able to utilize both together seamlessly. I will say it’s THE best sociosexual stack, dominate reality AND seduce it SIMULTANEOUSLY with two polarizing titles. I think it might end a 7 year dry spell for me. Imagine the effects of WB and Khan together perfectly, just that.
Edit: I intend to provide more value to this forum than I take from it by acting unnecessarily during some issues. I hope you help me with it as much as possible .
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First of all, this is fantastic and I have been using it quite a lot to satisfy my curiosity and learn more about titles.
it helps a ton with seeing how titles harmonize with one another and what to expect, if the titles can synergize well.
Especially helpful is the function of having a summary of the title based on more extensive date than the copy (that we can see by hovering the titles on the left)
having the same summary when hovering the titles on the right as well would be awesome as well as it would be easier to have an idea ourselves of the combination even before combining them, without having to search on the left and hover before adding them on the right
I did notice a couple unexpected results however:
Khan Black + Wanted Black is rated as less difficult than either KB + Wanted or KB + WDB, the profile shape itself is entirely different, showing nearly no social impact for KB + WB
Also, I didn’t expect Lineage + any women titles to be noted “for couples” and use masculine “his dynasty vision”, instead of talking about the advantages it would brings to motherhood (especially Asc for women + Lineage, as I expect it would be a nice power stack)
In fact, it seems to say “for couples” for many titles combined with women titles,
Even for titles that aren’t about anything particularly masculine or feminine, such as esoteric titles
Short list
Alchemist:
- “Alchemist develops masculine spiritual mastery. Seductress develops feminine seductive power. For couples: his spiritual depth paired with her magnetic femininity …”
- “Alchemist develops masculine spiritual consciousness. Ascension for Women develops feminine confidence and self-assurance. For couples: his spiritual journey alongside her ascending power …”
- “Alchemist develops spiritual depth. Helen of Troy develops feminine beauty and magnetism. For couples: his spiritual depth paired with her radiant beauty”
Alchemist Singularity (real gems here lol):
- “For couples: his dissolution of self meeting her rising seductive power. The paradox is real: the man with no fixed self to seduce becomes paradoxically more attractive because he’s completely without neediness. Seductress develops her magnetism. Together: the couple where his desirelessness makes him more desirable and her desire makes her more powerful. …”
- “For couples: his Singularity consciousness alongside her ascending confidence. He’s dissolving his fixed self; she’s building a stronger one. The apparent contradiction is actually complementary — his freedom from ego creates the space for her ego to develop without competition. The couple at genuinely different stages of the same journey, …”
- “For couples: his dissolved self alongside her radiant beauty. Beauty observed without an observer — what Singularity consciousness does to aesthetic experience is fascinating. He perceives her beauty without the filters of comparison, judgment, or personal desire. What remains is pure aesthetic perception. She IS beautiful. He perceives beauty. The ‘he’ and ‘she’ are conventions. The beauty is real. The paradox is the partnership.” (it could be great, if it was “she” and “her” instead of “he” and “his”)
Alchemist Aeon, all the unfolding series, RV, all esoteric titles have the same model “For couples:” from the guy’s perspective “your relationship will be better because of X Y Z” (often extended perception “so you notice better her beauty/her magnetism/her ascending confidence”)
“For couples: his vivid dream life alongside her magnetic allure. The man with a rich dream practice brings something unique to a relationship — intuitive insight about the partnership that arrives through dreams, creative energy that flows from vivid nocturnal experiences, and the specific quality of depth that a person with access to their own subconscious carries. Seductress develops her magnetism. Together: the couple where his inner depth matches her outer radiance.”
“For couples: his expanded perception experiencing her beauty on dimensions beyond the visual. Helen of Troy develops physical radiance. RV/AP perceives beyond the physical. Together: the man who perceives his partner’s beauty not just with his eyes but with an expanded awareness that registers the energetic quality of her presence, the non-physical dimensions of her radiance. Her beauty is richer than what eyes alone can capture, and his perception is expanded enough to appreciate the full spectrum.”
Same for any titles that are for any gender, I’m thinking Chosen,
“Chosen develops masculine leadership. Ascension for Women develops feminine confidence. For couples: his natural leadership alongside her growing self-assurance creates a partnership of mutual respect and shared growth. Both partners ascending in their own domain, each strengthening the other.”
Genesis
“For couples: his purpose-seeking energy alongside her radiant beauty. The man searching for his calling paired with the woman discovering her beauty creates a partnership of complementary becomings — his journey inward and hers outward. Together: the couple whose combined energy communicates genuine growth. His philosophical depth paired with her aesthetic radiance.”
True Social
“True Social develops masculine social intelligence. Seductress develops feminine seductive power. For couples: his social precision paired with her magnetic allure creates a couple that reads and commands every social situation. His intelligence navigating opportunities; her energy drawing people in.”
BRO
“For couples: his rich male social life paired with her magnetic seductive energy. A man with genuine brothers is a more attractive man — he has social proof, emotional outlets beyond the relationship, and the settled confidence that comes from knowing he’s genuinely loved by other men. Seductress amplifies her natural allure. The combination produces a couple where neither partner is the other’s entire social world — a dynamic that makes the relationship itself healthier and more magnetic.”
ASBR
“Stark develops masculine creative intensity. Ascension for Women develops feminine confidence and self-assurance. For couples: his innovative ambition paired with her ascending confidence creates a relationship where both partners are pushing boundaries simultaneously. Mutual growth that amplifies both.”
QL
“Quantum Limitless develops masculine cognitive evolution. Seductress develops feminine seductive power. For couples: his evolving intellect paired with her growing magnetism creates a partnership where both are developing simultaneously. Each stage of his cognitive growth adds new depth to their conversations and new dimensions to their chemistry.”
Paragon
“Paragon optimizes masculine health. Helen of Troy develops feminine beauty. For couples: his vibrant health paired with her radiant beauty. The couple whose combined vitality and aesthetics make them genuinely glow.”
Survival Instinct
“For couples: there’s a reason the ‘protective man with the beautiful woman’ is one of the oldest social archetypes. His Survival Instinct awareness means she never has to worry about her safety — he’s already scanned every exit, assessed every stranger, and positioned himself between her and anything that doesn’t feel right. Her Seductress magnetism means he has something genuinely worth protecting. The dynamic is primal, complementary, and deeply satisfying to both.”
Sanguine:TE
“The Elixir heals masculine emotional wounds. Seductress develops feminine seductive power. For couples: his emotional healing alongside her growing magnetism. A partnership where his increasing emotional health enriches her growing confidence.”
LBFH
“For couples: his genuine love for everyone paired with her extraordinary beauty. The warmth of his presence and the radiance of hers create a combined energy that’s nearly irresistible in social settings. His love ensures her beauty is experienced as approachable rather than intimidating. Her beauty ensures his warmth is noticed. They amplify each other: his love makes people stay; her beauty makes people look.”
Generally, I believe all wealth titles, all esoteric titles, all social titles, all productivity and focus titles, all healing and transformation titles, all skills and creativity titles, all physical and vitality titles (except LOTS which is men only) should automatically be from a woman who run both’s point of view instead of assuming the guy run a title and his gf run the woman’s title.
For Status & leadership titles, I can understand there are multiple who are from a masculine pov, such as GLM, Ascension, Emperor Daddy, but like all of them got the same “for couple” masculine POV too, though multiple of them are Gender: Any…
Romance and Attraction, yeah given the amount of men-pov titles I can understand for that category (though some could easily be run by women but still are “for couples”, I’m thinking Love Bomb, Heartsong, Divine Diamond, Khan, Khan Black, SSX, now that I think about it multiple could fit, though obviously not all (unless?))
Like, I know this is an oversight from generating 4000 combinations, and I bet these are from way less than 4000 requests to QOS as these are short, indicating many were generated at once.
but yeah, they do give the wrong idea that only the women’s titles could be run by women, when this is far from the truth.
I can see so many combination of women title + another who could be mind-blowing, but instead say “for couples” with an heterogenous he listen to one, she listen to the other, instead of combining both titles strength and how it would show or synergize for a woman to listen to both.
I do note that some titles get it right, IG:UPX, GM, GMX, Boxing Mastery, Muay Thai Mastery, (the rest of the skills are “for couples”) DR:RED, (the rest of the healing are “for couples”)
though Paragon Sleep take the “for couples” route too, it does it better than the rest, PS + HoT even give an argument on how it could be good for the woman running HoT to run PS
“For couples: ‘beauty sleep’ isn’t just an expression. Skin repair, collagen production, and cellular regeneration all peak during deep sleep. His Paragon Sleep optimization paired with her Helen of Troy beauty development means both partners are investing in physical vitality at the most fundamental level. The couple who looks genuinely vibrant because they’re both sleeping like they mean it.”
Those couple description could be useful, for couples.
Though I expect that most women running a stack would run a stack by themselves and not as a couple, like I expect most guys here run stack by themselves and not as a couple.
So yeah, again thank you for Labs, and I trust you to continue doing fantastic 
though you may lack a bit of feminine pov sometimes 
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@Fire “Productivity and focus” tab lacks Emperor Executive:
edit: and it’s not because I chose it as a base title to compare with. It is the same if I just open labs and it defaults to summertime, I still don’t see EE in this tab