Lmaoooo what 
I had no idea
maybe 2 versions?
HS - find soulmate
HS - for those with soulmate?
I don’t mind the healing because it makes relationships better and heartsong doesn’t cause tantrums or drama when I’m reconed. But I do feel for the peeps out there looking for their partners.
Very insightfully self aware.
Since everybody is sharing, in the same spirit i will share my heartsong experience.
It has been very intense in many ways, al tho i only did like 3 loops the effects hit heart tearingly deep for several months.It did make me wonder why i would manifest something so heartbreaking.
After running it i very quickly met someone i bonded deeply with. At first i thought it was romantic but then as someone here described concept of “soul tribe” seemed more accurate, love and genuine care for the person but not in quite romantic sense, she even told me it was foreign to her that someone who was a recent stranger to her cared more about her than anyone else in her life.
Her life story is very difficult, brought me to tears a few times and i never really cried before not even when i lost family members so it was cathartic in a way and in many ways similar to what i went through in my life and reminded me of my younger self.
It pissed me off that genuinely good people face so much pain and suffering while horrible people have it so easy.
Her suicidal tendencies returned and she was in a terrible mental state and it deeply hurt when she attempted suicide again, knowing i couldnt really help or save her, that life can be so cruel and hopeless.
She survived but i dont know for how long before she tries again.
I accepted the possiblity of that and glad i could at least give her love and care she didnt get from anyone else in her life and make her life just a little bit sweeter in a dark painful time.
This post hits so hard not gonna lie man you wrote it in such raw way. I see where you are coming from. When you put it into words, it sounds fucked up yet so real. A dark place to be in.
I know there are relationships that are beyond this “I have to look distant and ready to walk away any second in order to be respected and loved” but it takes special kind of people and will to do it. Gotta be lucky to find that.
For me, real love is not the unconditional obsessive type. It means being willing to die and even harder still, to live for someone. To choose them everyday, grow alongside them and to fight the entire world if need be. I went into seduction because i wanted to be able to approach " the one " if i was to ever meet her. To not stutter, shy away and hope for something to happen. Had i simply waited and remained true to myself, i would most likely live a very celibate life. They hate the game but only respond to it. By being a certain way, i can consistently elicit investment while remaining just out of reach. I do it in the most genuine and kind way i know to ensure its equally beneficial so i can feel less jaded. To at the very least, show that not all are men are dangerous, evil only think about sex etc. I will be their pillar if their world crumbles knowing fully well they would be out the moment mine shows a crack… Then i can pretend for few moments that its real just before reminding myself of the hell that awaits if i believe the lie.
I despise this with the bottom of my heart. But id rather at least have something than over waiting in celibacy. Nowadays i don’t really care about love. If its real it will find me. If it’s mine, then i will meet someone who will genuinely hates this monkey dance like i do. Her who truly sees me, who looks at me and tells me from the bottom of her heart " you are enough! I choose you for you! " not because i said the right line, made her feel the right thing etc. For something that seems so simple, yet real. I would gladly give her the entire world 10 times over and it would still not be enough. I would burn myself alive so she would not feel a shiver. And if she genuinely felt the same about me? I would be the luckiest and happiest man alive.
Life can be magical too. Maybe the balance is keep the dream alive while negating the drawbacks.
If Heartsong is to be redone, it will have to be drastically redone in the future. This script is amongst the shortest in the entire library. It’s very focused and simple. Looking at everything from a bird’s eye view, it appears that it’s the subject matter itself – that of love and soulmates – that’s causing the recon. I am genuinely, genuinely shocked that people who can just bulldoze Dragon Reborn are having troubles with this title.
From a more philosophical standpoint, it shows just how damaged we are all in society in regards to love. This script has A LOT of love scripting, similar to Love Bomb and it’s so highly positive that you’d think everyone would respond well, but it seems that this positive scripting regarding love is simply sending people into a state of healing, even though there’s minimal healing scripting (outside of the NSE), because it’s supposed to be manifestation-based.
If I had to guess what’s “wrong” with it, it’d be that the script sets it’s ideals of “love” a bit too high, and since we’ve all pretty much been traumatized due to societal nonsense, we reject the script and go into a healing mode. Which is fine, but that was never the intention for Heartsong. When we revisit this title, we’re going to have to take the practical tools-based approach. This will require some time, because “love” is such a vast topic that explore.
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I think you nailed it with this explanation… It throws you into a healing spiral, I can now confirm why.
Lol… it might be related to expectations… When you go in to DR you know you are going into a battle (so to speak) but when you listen to HS you say, oh this is rosie, im gonna manifest myself some lovely person and we are going out catching butterflies and hold hands… and then it kicks you in the balls. 
Would changing this not make it not be heartsong anymore?
Meaning we run heartsong to be able to get that ideal, just the (inner) path to it seems extremely painful.
May be the most difficult thing is what we need the most.
When i used it with my ex. She vastly enjoyed it. She said it reminded her of how madly, deeply and passionate she loves me. During the sex we had that night, she held my face firmly and stared deeply into my soul with such vulnerable, unflinching Bambi Eyes.
In my case however i was conflicted between enjoying the vulnerability and surrendering to it. Knowing well her entire " love " was completely dependent on me being the unflinching superman and seeing the Clark Kent behind the suit would make her act out, lose respect and intrest.
I would happily include HS in my stack if i knew it would manifest someone at my level. Someone i could grow along side of, who grows along side me. Feeling like " the one " is a prize waiting on the other side of the healing and timing seems to be the main cause of fustration. Purpose and hard work take the majority of the healing as they should. Life does not award participation trophies after all. Love is supposed to be the sanctuary, the home and not another healing mission. A baseline level of healing is mandatory after all. But going all the way to build and maintain is just " heartbreaking " xD
Edit: Perhaps using HS with New Emotional Healing Experience Core would repurpose the manifestation of " the one " to manifesting people and experiences which enable organic and spontaneous healing that leads to " the one "?
It would be cool if this could be a multi stager! Just a thought that came through presently.
Great news this topic and area definitely deserves a very strong indepth title, whenever the update comes looking forward to it.
Most guys running seduction subs when all they really need is some OP good HS in their lives hahaha
Deep down, that is what the vast majority of men dream about. Being loved for who they are. Not for the sub they use, the value they provide or the experiences the give. To have their inner child loved and accepted, and the big boy to be respected and needed. Not freely but generously
You still need transformational seduction subs to be the best and most attractive version of yourself to your soulmate just as you want them to be their best for you.
Nah you don’t need seduction subs to be a great partner. You don’t even need to be the best version of yourself for that or the best seducer you can be. Tons of dudes out there don’t run anything and they do well and are treated well back. Subs certainly help! But you don’t need them. People been having sex and seducing and loving each another for forever and we were fortunate to come out of that gene pool into existence. But hell I’m grateful we got subs still.
I‘m currently running HS with EmpD in my custom, fourth cycle now.
While LB and LBfH gave me very strong recon, HS is not a problem for me. Maybe because I intentionally use it to heal myself, not to find a soulmate. I do feel warmth in my heart and chest area directly after listening to it. Then during the day it will make me sad and I feel mourning and grief because it brings up memories of my wife who passed away unexpectedly last year. But I feel that HS does help me with this process. The feelings of despair do fade when I just acknowledge them and I feel better afterwards.
Those were simpler times, where people found each other locally.
Now we live in hyper competitive times especially with social media/dating app emergence.
The distance inequality between “poor and rich” in dating market context only grows further apart wider…
So as a man u definitely dont want to be slacking or lacking when competition isint. As the khan title says “love and war” but love is war and fierce competition for men.
Just dudes on this forum had endless experiences of girls in marriages, relationships hitting on them or wanting to sleep with them.
You dont want to risk your chances and rely on disney fantasy as a man while competition outperforms you.
Very, very sorry to hear that. Our condolences. Based on the script (which I reacquainted myself with earlier), it’s most likely helping you with the healing process regarding such a traumatic event.