With Asc one time I vomited and people told me it is due to deep fears coming to the surface. Other times I cried.
So I guess healing might just be feeling painful emotions that were stuck.
Can you give me an example?
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I mean it’s very personal to every individual, but just on the top of my head… take sadness… and how it can lead you to discovering more of your authentic self.
Sadness is something what usually arises when something deeply meaningful to us is felt to be lost. So in a way it can point us in a direction to show to us what we truly value and love.
By not running away from that sadness or trying to distract ourselves to cover it up, we can look at it, feel it, and embrace it in order to let it be felt and then let go of. And in doing this, we learn not to push anything down, and we might also peel away layers of falsehood, layers of identity, that might just come from societal contracts and expectations, and thus revealing what genuinely matters and what can be simply let go of. And by doing so we become more independent and stronger individuals.
And this can lead to a whole array of different things happening, as you might then understand that grief is a natural and necessary process to loss, which then might lead you into reading about the 5 stages of grief, and then maybe shadow work etc etc.
Just examples above. But it just illustrates that all you do in feeling into it and learning about it, is that you raise your awareness, you rise to an elevated position, and you become more conscious and acquire greater emotional control and ability to live a fuller life.
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When using Asc I watched some videos on YouTube about integrating the shadow.
I also did the practice and integrated my shadow (or at least part of it).
I remember when I had the chance to feel those emotions and those parts of me (ex: being maquiavelic). I was very hesitant of doing so, because I was afraid of becoming evil and not being able to come back. But fortunately I didn’t become evil… 
What happened is just that I use that energy for constructive things most of the time.
BTW, 1 day after listening to the first loop of HS I met a nice and knowledgeable guy on the forum (@Tobyone), so it looks like in a way HS is already working. 
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I’m just a sign post that appeared. You are your own guru and teacher and you have all the answers already. ZP works through you, and it’s great that you made this connection of manifestation 
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I’m in the middle of my second cycle with Heartsong and through various interactions and perspective shifts I am delighted to notice that my baseline of self-worth and self-esteem has gone up in a big way and feels like a new solid foundation of my identity.
@Parsifal
You talked about LB doing this for you back then but I didn’t experience this as much as I do with Heartsong. I have had very beautiful experiences with LB but the way Heartsong healing works for me feels so smooth and the shift in self-esteem and worthiness is massive I would think I am running an alpha sub. Worth a try if you ever get a space in your stack, you won’t regret this!
A little update about this girl that I felt was a good match, is that I grew so much in the last 2 weeks that I now feel like she is not good enough for me anymore, which is something I am so confused about because I never experienced such a fast shift before, and that’s one of the signs that my ‘deserve’ level has gone up, through interactions with her and multiple other girls these last weeks I have reset my sense of worth to new heights.
Coupled with BDLM and RotNW my sense of sexual worthiness has also gone up so great synergy with Heartsong even though I didn’t get any outer results from RotNW.
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I think I suffered from the same problem just by using Asc. I quickly manifested a new woman who is now a better match (also just using Asc - and BTW I stopped using it has it creates me problems when used together with PS).
So I hope that by using PS + HS I can quickly seduce her (when using Asc we had our second conversation, we talked about intimate subjects, and there is already big attraction between us) and start a serious relationship with her, because if I don’t do it quickly most likely I’ll also keep growing and become too good for her.
This probably poses another future problem: after initiating a new relationship with a girlfriend how to help her grow at the same rhythm than me?
I’m so glad this sub also improves self-worth and self-esteem. With the added healing seems to be an upgrade to LB. After about 2 weeks on LB I also noticed people wanting to help me. Does this also happen with HS?
What is RotNW? Is the one below?
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When you figure this out let me know lol
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She’ll have to want to, first and foremost.
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Good point. If she doesn’t want to, then she is not a twin soul because I want to keep growing, but for now I’ll be happy with just a nice, and good in bed girlfriend.
If she is a twin soul, she will want to.
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I figured out! If she is a twin soul, she lives near by and she already discovered Sub Club! 
Edit: Or she found another self development tool as good as Sub Club subs, and then we can combine the 2 tools in synergy!
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Some love songs keep popping up into my mind’s surface. Any idea why does that happen?
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I don’t see it as a problem because growth is my main objective and sense of satisfaction and that is what will bring better experiences and better partners and friends my way.
Yes RotNW is Revelation of the Nectar Within, it’s helping me heal blockages in my entire body by stimulating a powerful sense of sexual confidence and opening energy pathways in the sexual area.
HeartSong softens the heart and emotions and I have noticed after running a loop and take a shower I tend to sing in a much sweeter softer way.
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For me it’s a problem, because at this point my main objective and sense of satisfaction comes from getting a girlfriend.
What’s the point in growing and being legendary if I keep living alone in the world? Or if we don’t reach our goals? IMO growing has to be useful for something and measured, and that usefulness and measurement is done by setting and achieving goals.
I understand people who say that they love themselves and that they love their own company. I also love taking time for myself when I have frequent company. But what I think those people are missing out is that if they would be alone and isolated from the world for 1 year they wouldn’t feel happy (unless they are monks ).
We are social beings and for some reason I still am not knowledgeable about, we need to exchange energy with others in order to feel well.
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Some more results (listening to PS + HS):
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It’s Khan Black Booster Crucible
I had to quit HS, has in the end it proved to be a bad sub for me.
To be honest I think the results I posted previously by me on this tread came from PS.
Just run foundational masculine title then its easier and no stress
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Yea, sounds like Ascension would be perfect!
It brings the issues to your attention, so you can consciously fix them.
Subs are awesome, but without conscious and active work they won’t take away your anxiety, obsession, neediness, or lack of self love.
They can promote calmness, detachment, self reliance, and self love, but those things won’t pop up out of thin air.
Coming to a place where you can have healthy relationships isn’t only about manifesting your soul mate, it is also about doing the work to love yourself, have boundaries, know your worth, and not expect a relationship to fix your life (imo a misstep in the Heartsong sub, which the producers have said “soul mate manifestation” is the major focus of the sub, and why ouroborous suggested a “Heartsong From Within” title for self love)
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