Main Disc. Thread - The NEW Emperor (Now Available! Q Core Available!)

Came back to Emperor after release of New Emperor and ran it about 2-3 times; it hit fast, little to no recon and encouraged introspection. Was too good I immediately pulled the trigger on my Emperor/Sanguine custom.

During my first cycle I almost didn’t notice anything except for Sanguine - I was always happy, sometimes, without reason. Now I’m on washout day 8 of my second cycle, it’s time for a review:

Self effects
  • My posture is impeccable - shoulders back/relaxed, upright back, chest popping up and I don’t feel the muscles straining to do so, unlike when I try to consciously do it over hours. I’m aware of it, but I don’t need to do anything, it has become that way.
  • I feel taller everyday I wake up.
  • My base gait is faster and upper body swings more freely as I walk.
  • I don’t move out the way unless necessary, I have my share of the way, you have yours, if you enter mine without reason, I walk into you.
  • There is always a destination and I walk with intention. It reflects even in my action but without intent, I’m just ‘there’ not moving.
  • I find myself saying “pain is a temporary construct” sometimes, I had glimpses of this mindset in my first run of Emperor about two years ago(but also ran some Spartan loops this cycle)
  • I’m beginning to feel unphase-able. Confidence, calmness, nonchalance are building up, banter doesn’t get to me at this point. Fear going down.
  • I smile when actually annoying/frustrating things happen.
  • Projected Voice is the new normal. People keep turning at work when they hear my voice, some get startled despite hearing it for a while now. Also got told to try voice acting.
  • The mindset that “nobody is going to save you, it’s all in your hands if you just MOVE”
  • Some days I feel really good and happy, other days just normal, no bad or severe recon day.
  • Improved self care. I was bothered about my skin but now I take action on it.
  • I feel irritated at unreasonable restrictions - whether they’ve existed or if people try to box me into one on the fly - now, I fight it.
  • I feel and look bigger both physically and energetically. I just cover more space most times without even trying to.
Social
  • I smile a little more freely even while greeting people.
  • Improved humor. Previously it was a mix of dead jokes, no jokes in mind and I couldn’t be bothered every time (antisocial behavior)
  • Even if my joke isn’t a hit and people try to flip it on me, I’m unphased - own it and laugh it off or try to keep talking as if nothing happened.
  • I feel disconnected in some conversations.
  • I still don’t have anything to say when making small talk or talking with girls. I’m a man of few words only because I don’t know what to say (I need to change this)
  • People try to engage me a little bit more in conversations.
  • People are kinder and tend to seek my approval a little bit more.
  • Some girls spontaneously just developed a crush for me.
  • Sometimes words just flow out of my mouth (usually compliments). The internal debate on what to say is still there, but the genuine one just comes out even if it doesn’t win the debate.
  • People don’t try to test me anymore. Like they can’t disrespect me.
  • Improved boundary setting. I like helping people do things and being kind. Now, I just refuse some, otherness they see my expression and just decide to do it themselves.
  • Noticed people trying more to give me orders and it irks me - even when what they’re telling me to do is necessary. Maybe they’re trying to assert themselves in a way, perhaps it has been this way, but it displeases me either ways. In the past I used to get annoyed that I’m too agreeable.
  • People try to talk over me sometimes (it was a usual occurrence previously) most times I keep talking, other times I succumb (I need to work on this).
  • The way some people treat me in conversations sometimes just irks me in a way.
  • Not on my best social prowess, but there’s an increase from baseline.
  • I’m changing and people’s reactions to me are changing , but to them it’s all normal like “it’s always been like this”
Will, action, drive & productivity
  • This side is still out in the jury. The Emperor drive, ambition & pull to action hasn’t hit yet (probably because its a custom and my mind prioritized other things)
  • Been getting into flow very easily at work and time is very fast when I’m in it. Like I just want to flow and go faster and it just happens.
  • Getting the call and signs to declare what I want and create a plan (already working on it). Had me reconsidering if Emperor is best for my goals.
  • Currently, I have to really exert my Will power to start moving, unlike my previous runs.
  • That power to just decide/compel/will myself into things hasn’t kicked in yet. Like just decide things and it just remains that way.
Two examples from my first run of Emperor 2 years ago
  • if my mind keeps running while trying to sleep,I could just say to myself “it’s time to sleep, shut up and go to bed bruh” and the next thing I know I’m waking up the next morning.
  • Figured out my sleeping posture was bad for my shoulders and neck. I simply decided and said to myself “I will start sleeping on my back,” tried it that night and it remains that way till today (for the most part)
Habits
  • Positive habits are beginning to build up again, albeit slowly. It feels like there is a lot of friction here or I just find a way to procrastinate on it.
Recon
  • The recon on this is very tricky. Funny part is that it’s text book recon - doubt, indecision, negative mood, urge to change stack etc - but it’s very good at disguising itself. Sometimes I know I’m in recon, but I can’t really help it. It’s like playing lawyer games with myself but the other me is Loki and if you get past him, you meet Harvey Specter.
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How has everyone’s results been so far?

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Fantastic really

So good I swapped to Stark Black LOL

Jokes aside though, I finally understand what people like @Jouissance mean when they say - lay a foundation with alpha subs before getting too advanced

New Emperor for 3-4 cycles has made me feel like a new person. More resilient, more confident, more trusting in myself. I feel like I know better what I want, what I deserve, what I am willing or not willing to put up with. Who I want to be.

It led my to swap over to Stark Black for a while, but I know I’ll be back on Emperor before long.

I also wouldn’t have swapped to Stark Black if it hadn’t adapted resilience and inner dominance scripting from Emperor. And I strongly feel I am not the only person who had that thought. This speaks to the power, ubiquity, and sheer utility of Emperor

Highly recommend this sub to any and all men

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Yeah, resilience is out of this world since I ran Emperor. Things that made me really anxious in the past don’t disrupt me anymore.
Like when my father said he is cutting my support, I was a bit anxious for a few hours, but the next morning I was super calm and it felt rather like a kick in the butt to change something in my life. And I felt genuine gratitude for this.
The last time he threatened to do so, I was severely anxious for weeks with some panic attacks now and then.

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Big facts

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On the differences between the texture of Emperor v. Stark Black when stacked with Heartsong (for me)

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Emperor gym results have been crazy good, PRs without even trying.

It reminds me of the Emperor Black effect but without the borderline psychopathic inner voice that I would develop on it.

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Calmness quietness to the highest degree . Not mentioned in emperor sales page .introduced new tasks for the sales with the purpose of increasing sales . Let’s get back to see the results of this new task at the end of the month .

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Hi all members, have been using new emperor for some time now, need a stack advice for following objectives:-

Make lots of money
Build an empire ( yes emperor will be at core of the stack)
Build superlative physique
Have huge sex drive

Are all the objective feasible via combo of new Emp , Emp HOM, empfit st 3

Has any on tried this combo, as I want to take this on for the next few cycles , planning to update my physique pics before and after on this stack for 3-6 months.

Any suggestions / comments are most welcomed. Any results on the above stack will be really helpful. I don’t want to jump on any stack presently without understanding the outcomes

Thx people

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I have never used New Emperor but I saw that it has all this, from my point of view using just one sub that has the objectives you want would give you more results.

How long have you been using it and how are you finding it?

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@LovingEmperor have been using emperor for sometime now , but used new emperor for only I cycle as of now , though it has parts of all 3 subs ( hom + fitness) but is not very focused on money / muscle gain . I do get fat loss with it and feel calm and confident but it not close to HOM for money making aspects. That’s why I wanted to run all 3 to get max benefits on all aspects

Is there any forum where I can take stack advise from saint / fire directly .

There isn’t. Though we’re here to help and S&F do pop in when able and not busy. And also to correct any wrong info we might give.

Submit a ticket in the support site.

You’ll either get a response from the producers directly, or from the support team who is closely advised by the producers on nearly all tickets.

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No. They have a policy now of referring stack questions back to forum. Support is more for technical aspects of the sites. Or order issues.

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This thread has been silent for a while and ASBR is taking all that shine, so here I am to break the silence :sunglasses:. Ending my washout for my third cycle run of my Emperor and Sanguine custom. Here is my review and it’s going to be a long one as I’ve been getting some pretty interesting results.

First result

There is no doubt about it, I have changed. However, it feels like I shed a layer of myself that was obstructing who I truly am. It’s crazy how subtle this change is. I’m literally spelling out things that changed to people around me, but they l they’re like “you’ve always been that way.” In all my excitement I get the urge to tell them “aren’t you even noticing that your reactions towards me have changed and changed fast or are you not seeing what I’m seeing” but I just let it be.

It’s like my being and way of being improved, it’s very core to me and tricky to actually articulate. I also feel more authentic and congruent.

Second result

Another major thing is that you can’t hide from this, neither will you continue to lie to yourself. It makes clear as day your subconscious intent - those desires you push to the edge of your awareness, some you don’t even know you have others you don’t like to admit even to yourself - and attempts to create alignment between it and your conscious intent - what you consciously think and say you want - for the purpose of having clarity, because wether you like it or not the subconscious intent molds a significant part of your reality, you might not get what you consciously want and you will have to use willpower to power through everything (one of the reasons why I think Pre ZP Emperor was difficult for most people, as they didn’t know how to guide this process). It also helps you know why and how they came to be and how to accept them as part of you.

Third result

The third sphere of results are my social results. I’m more friendly, open and approachable than before. I make jokes, have conversations, witty comebacks are becoming baseline. I’m more comfortable with myself than before and status has gone up. People reciprocate these changes like they have been eagerly waiting for me to get here and they don’t consciously realize it, like I’m supposed to have gotten here since.

The eye contacts with both men and women have been crazy. It’s like they acknowledge my presence and really want me to acknowledge theirs too. With men it usually ends with a nod or greeting and with women is like they’re transfixed for a moment then they smile or look down then away.

Productivity

At first, I was like WheRe Is My EmPeRoR ProDUctIvItY, the PoWeR, the DoMiNaNcE. Although, productivity hasn’t really blossomed, and for power and dominance my baseline took a nosedive at first; However, there were more valuable things to be handled for me, it hit me that something deep was underway and I should exercise patience. Now, the dominance and power are simply self expression, a reflection of who I am and how I perceive myself to be. There’s no forcing it, just me.

One day, I read through the copy I created when I was designing this custom and I realized the custom is executing the way I designed and intended it to, I’ve hit almost all objectives, not just the way I thought I wanted to. Even the name I chose “Evolution” after going through between 10-15 other names, represented the intent behind the custom, after this realization, the results I have just made sense to me - these major changes were what I desired. They are beautiful and I won’t trade them for anything else at this point in time.

There are other results, but they always revolve around the three major changes in one form or another. They feel more like a consequence or reflection of the three major changes listed above.

Now, about that good NSE

NSE is a damn good technology. It’s like bridging very, very little gaps between the beginning point and the end point every moment and ever so slightly, but fast at the same time.

To explain this better, imagine a camera that lets you relive a picture. Now, imagine a very, very slow moving car traveling from point A to point B. Now, use the camera to take a burst shot of pictures of this car as it travels from A to B. Then, relive through all the pictures on 100x speed.

The recon is almost nonexistent, usually hunger, at most it’s like my soul is weeping and it usually disappears after I have fleshed out my awareness on the issue being dealt with by journaling.

Onward, to the next part of the journey.

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So I’ve decided to try out this new emperor cos I really feel like I need that inner strength and fire in my life right now. Now those results might be from primal and Wanted as I have ran 1 loop of Emperor together with them but here are the results.

  • incredible sense of confidence, seriously, I don’t think I’ve felt this level of confidence after just one loop. That day after I ran emperor I instantly felt this sense of power rise within me.
  • very social, like I started to instantly speak my mind, my voice being very loud and clear. I wanted to make myself heard.
  • sense of humour increase, although that would happen on Primal too
  • the next day after I ran emperor I had 1 girl at work tell me that I look really good today, another girl hint that I’m a womanizer and women love me
  • then later than girl who told me that I look good gave me another hint that she finds me attractive and likes me, won’t go into detail what she said but it was a definite IOI
    Also since doing a loop of Emperor I’m starting to take my work more seriously again. I’ve been so preoccupied with other things that my job started to feel like a chore, but now I’m getting this sense that I want to grow within this company and I want to contribute to this company’s growth
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Anyone stack Emperor with Art, Creativity etc. programs? I love overall objectives of this program but would like to add an Artist vibe (Emperor: Artist Edition?) instead of entrepreneurship, trading etc.

I’m considering running NEW Emperor with NEW Love Bomb. @SaintSovereign, or anybody really, how many minutes of a 15 minute loop would I need to run to get the full script of Emperor and likewise with Love Bomb? Would they be the same for both and all titles or would I need to run Emperor for more minutes since it’s denser than Love Bomb?

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Just stack it with Renaissance Man or Ultimate Artist.

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