Oh you got me beat there. But I respect the hell out of that consistency
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And actually taking actions on the subs objectives and having crazy results I never mention on the forum😉
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I wish I had stuck with Dragon Reborn for three years. I would probably be in a very different situation now.
I keep forgetting how it helps with building and establishing boundaries. Something I have struggled with my entire life.
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I am beyond thrilled for the upgrades to the major titles. Stark I’m sure will be even better.
@Plutus another 26 months on the docket for ya
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You’d probably have hit a point of diminishing returns by then is my guess.
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Insightful observation.
There is such a thing as overkill.
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Maybe. I’m not sure about that especially given how rapidly everything is changing that ongoing emotional or whatever healing is necessary. Seems like everyone is burned out, overwhelming, or exhausted. The healing is necessary to reset yourself. But I could be wrong.
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One thing I will say amist this conversation is I like how civilized it is. Stark is an amazing sub, nothing wrong with it in my opinion and it was the most life changing sub I’ve ever used.
But I do agree that having a clearer picture and more objectives on the Stark page would be great. More so for people who haven’t used Stark before. Something as detailed as the Wanted Black sales page would be great but honestly just having more would help a lot for some who want to understand it further which from my understanding Saint and Fire are already working on so I guess we will just have to wait.
One thing amidst all of this that kind of made me laugh is some people here trying to give advice and getting into this convo when they barely or never even used Stark (not talking about any particular person). Another is them giving advice on how to network when their networking skills are average or below average. I get some of them are trying help but the advice given aren’t very helpful if people want to go to the next level in their social circle.
I saw some of the advice given here relating to networking (again not relating to any particular person) in the past two days and some of the advice is the polar opposite of what you’d want to do to build a good connection. That’s all I will say if your going to give advice on it then actually know what your talking about before saying it. Not some random tiktok or youtube video you saw as 90% of it is BS, good networking comes from practice not a video.
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Gracias and yesir.
Exactly!
There is nothing wrong with more information, especially for beginners who are just stumbling across Stark.
Perhaps you should read all of it. After all, it contains the information you’re claiming to need. That’s what the forum is for.
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For ye conflicts and troubles
Armistice is coming
Nov 11
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Btw can anyone help me with how good is stark for exams?
LBFH is the best dominance sub ever 
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Ok, I just signed up on the forum for this ongoing Stark debate. And I’ll begin with expressing my gratitude and respect for @SaintSovereign 's and @Fire 's integrity to not submitting to demands and request for more “dominance” or “masculinity” in Stark (they must’ve been running Stark alot).
I started my SubClub journey in February this year and bought almost half of the store titles and a dozen of customs (I’m very guilty of shiny objects syndrome, but I’m very consistent with the use of my subs). I’m a researcher and musician and am running a UA/Mind’sEye Custom since April this year, a Chosen/Stark custom since June and KB as a third title, currently on stage 3.
I love almost everything about Stark and I don’t want it to be more “dominant” or whatsoever. I like the creativity it gives me, the great ideas that come with it and the ability to express them. I love the fame aspect. In science there’s the old saying “publish or perish” - you need to be seen, you need to be heard, people need to talk about you and your ideas. Stark ist great for that. I even added Gloryseeker to my custom. Also, to some extend you need to be liked. In science you have to have a network and everybody there is brilliant in it’s own way, you’re among equals and don’t need to dominate them; you need to be tactical and strategizing, yes, but not forcefully or in a rude manner. You cannot walk this way of life alone, you’re always in a community. And Stark is excellent for this.
Finally, just a short note on being “alpha”. I’m a mountain tour guide also. I’m leading various groups of people on hikes through alpine, arctic and desert landscapes. Such a trip might only be a couple of hours long or a month long expedition. If you think, that being the top guy in such a group means being domineering, stronger, more assertive and so on, you’re dead wrong. You need to be caring, understanding, wise, internally strong, supportive, creative, decisive, trustworthy and competent. Otherwise the group might never reach its destination, it might fall apart, people literally might die. You cannot always chose who’s with you. You’ve got weak people, vulnerable people, elderly people, children, pregnant women. You think it’s a great idea running around, banging on your chest, putting everybody down, claiming that it’s your way or the highway? Couldn’t be farther from the truth. You need to be a leader which simply means that you take what you have and bring the mission to a happy ending for everyone. The strong, dominant and alpha guy? Is not going to lead the group. I’d sent him ahead, he can go on his own, explore the landscape, find important landmarks, come back and report it to me; I’d sent him hunting down animals, although also hunting is a joint venture. Maybe one day, when he’s grown older and wiser, he’ll be in a position of compassion and finally become the leader of the tribe.
So that’s my 2 cents about Stark, just wanted to make it heard that there are people out there who appreciate Stark (and other subs) as they are. Thank you SubClub, thank you Saint and Fire.
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Well, its quite strange because Stark is terrafic as seduction / romance sub.
Status, fame/celebrity aura and social fluidity is quite high on it.
My main concern (MINE, not Alphamale if you understand what I mean, lol) in Stark was that its fame & innovation aura felt more powerful that scripting that actually allowed me to “stand a ground” in intense situation.
Also, presenting my ideas on wide audience triggered much social pressure.
If on Emperor I was okey with this social pressure, on Stark (for me) I was not.
And thats the issue for me because I so much needed Emperor’s frame when operating with many people at once.
Actually, Emperor’s “stand my ground” with Starks “fame / celebrity” is what I actually expected of Stark.
On 1:1 setting I have no issues with Stark.
Do I speak clearly? Because I saw that some people are confusing me with Alphamale (banned user) with his “hyper-dominance” issue.
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In a good way or bad way?
Good way, because it makes me fluid and I have almost all social resources ready.
But only in 1:1 setting, I must say it once again.
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Looking forward to NSE. New Stark Experience:
New fame experience, new wealth experience, new wealth experience, new romance experience, new learning experience.
NCSE is gonna be LIT AF
#IYKYK
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