I’m really enjoying Heartsong on ZP build. It has been really eye opening so far.
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Among other things. But, it’s very much focused on sexual mastery itself.
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Visualizing from the third person can be useful for seeing things from a different perspective.
You will get pass this one day, if you have to focus on uncover this first then go at it. The answer will come soon.
I learn that from a guy named John Overdurf. Good stuff there.
Wrote about the details in my journal.
In this thread,I just wanted to put my final thoughts and conclusions:
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This experience made it clear to me that I can no longer suppress, avoid or hide away from this issue. Having Premature Ejaculation is a part of who I am right now, and I will to arrange myself with it. I will need to openly communicate that to my partners, preferably before the intercourse. I will need to find a girl who is cool with it and who wants to train with me, preferably on a daily basis. I am thinking about downloading tinder and writing it in my bio, or talking to one of my past fuck buddies who might be down to help me. I need as much sex as possible, and luckily with Wanted Khan, I am in no shortage of options.
From now on, I am going to admit to people that I have a problem in that regard, and I am proud that I have gained the emotional maturity to do just that even though initially it might be extremely scary for me. People always assume that I am such a player who has slept with hundreds if not thousands of girls, I think even some people here on the forum think that after reading my journals… but the truth is I am young, and while I have certainly had a lot of cool encounters with multiple different women at this point, penetrating sex, especially on a regular basis still somewhat of a novelty to me. My PE issue has always prevented me to commit long-term and have anything more than one-night-stands… -
I have the strong presumption that LibertineZP is tremendously increasing my Premature Ejaculation. I am going to explicitly test that in the next few days and just HOPE this is not true because Libertine is by far my fav program. But everything is pointing in that direction, so maybe I will have to abandon it
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The two herbs clearly did not work for me. I am going to further experiment with Gingko and a slightly higher dose, as I have seen improvements from that in the past.
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From now on, I will always make sure to masturbate before going out. I am not sure why I am not doing it, maybe because I am afraid to not get an erection. But Boners are hardly a problem for me. When I was with her, I had such a MONSTER-ERECTION, unbelievable… (that is certainly a result of 2 months of DiamondZP).
Thanks, yes I might consider it for the sake of getting more positive reference experience of penetrative sex (maybe for a short and limited time), but I avoid to put any toxins on my penis or into my body in general.
I think the focus should be more on decreasing the sympathetic nervous system.
Don’t you know some proven and effective breathing techniques that do just that? Power Sumo breathing or something like that? haha. I feel like you are the most knowledgeable on that subject and I would greatly appreciate if you can recommend me something.
Yeah I just started a poll if there is a general demand for a title that focuses specifically on Premature Ejaculation. Both SM and Diamond might help to the degree, but they are not focused enough and like Diamond contain pleasure scripting that might make things worse. 
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Not true. There’s a lot of scripting in both for this. The issue is that there are so many causes of PE (and ED) that even if we made a dedicated title, you’d still have issues. The thing is, the fact that you suddenly and very openly posted some very intimate feelings on the subject shows that the healing related to that is working. You’re now taking the problem seriously and openly recognizing that you have to “accept” that it’s occurring so that you can resolve this.
This is a result.
Yes, I understand. But you won’t need to use it for long. Use Diamond + desensitizing condoms. Six months. Avoid porn at all costs, have live sex with attractive partners.
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I like that last name, for whatever reason.
Third person visualization is good for self-inspection. First person, I find, is more useful for when you’re wanting to enact/create something new/different in one’s life.
Yes yes
Clearly I am executing the scripting and getting good results from it.
Both push me strongly to find solutions for my issue. Though I think a title dedicated to PE could be one of the solutions itself
Why Diamond and not SM or both?
Whatever happened yesterday was even for my standards early and I think it was either due to Libertine, Diamond, both, or none of them (in that order).
Big thank you to all the people giving me advice, suggestions or general statements of support today. Even when I might not always agree —— huh @AlexanderGraves 
I appreciate it a lot
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I will rethink my diet @friday, I’ve noticed that my libido was super high when I was eating more than 100g of fat per day… And like, I felt like I wouldn’t have any problem if a woman came along
For the past week tho I’ve increased my carb intake and lowered my fat intake to maybe… 60g per day… And it was less quality fat (from cooking oil, breat, sauce, etc). I don’t have the same feeling like my pants could explode at any moments… I feel like my libido is still higher because of my confidence, but it’s not the same. I’ll try increasing my fat intake from animal products (including eggs), see how it goes with my libido!
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Awesome! I am pretty certain that is the cause for your issue
Get yourself some raw (not pasteurized), unsalted butter
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Yooo that taste great! I love butter !
What do you think about coconut oil, is it good on your diet?
Oils will always be inferior, and animal fat superior.
Ingesting coconut oil is better than being deprived of fat — but butter, egg yolk, raw cream and raw fat trimmings will always be better. The problem is the centrifugal, even the cold press oil gets too hot and also it oxidizes.
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It’s funny. I had a similar thought just after I pressed ‘Reply’. haha
I’m not an expert on this because I don’t tend to follow highly goal-directed yogic practices.
And I (usually) didn’t last as long as I wanted.
Not always though. So it can vary.
For some reason, I thought of Wim Hof-style practices. While doing the practice, that actually leads to increased sympathetic arousal; but I suspect that there is a compensatory drop/release during the times after the practice.
So the logic of how to actually re-balance sympathetic response may not be so straight-forward.
Exposing and habituating the system to some healthy stressor and then returning to a non-stressful environment may, over time, to lead to a less inappropriately triggered sympathetic response.
Healthy stressors could include things like cold exposure, long distance running, or possibly even more abstract stressors like leading a group, or guiding a large group through emotional mediation and conflict resolution practices.
The idea (as in Wim Hof) is to stay with the situation long enough to breathe into it, relax into it, and habituate; thereby finding a new adaptive center within that originally challenging situation.
So the formula is The Breathing and Letting Go plus The Challenge.
One more point I wanted to add though:
The less you make this into the most important thing in the world is probably the greater chance you’ll have of exerting more influence over it.
And know this:
The time of frustration over an issue is often the time when the deep mind is transforming that issue. Conscious frustration, hopelessness, overwhelm correspond to subconscious transformation and resolution.
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Most likely, it was Diamond due to the pleasure enhancing scripting. Doubt it was Libertine at all. That being said, Sex Mastery X is still based on the Weapon X method of scripting – just in ZP format. It’s skills based, with less emotional healing. Diamond has much more of the emotional healing elements. WANTED is another that could help with this too.
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All of this talk of ED and PE made me wonder if I’m the only one here with the problem I sometimes have.
I have no problem getting it up and keeping it there, but sometimes I can’t come for the life of me.
Ive had that sometimes since I started having sex as a teenager.
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You are not alone. I have to be completely exhausted physically to ejaculate. I used to face the question: Why you can get there didn’t you like me?
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If you’re watching porn, completely stop for six months. That goes for softcore, scrolling through Instagram models, etc. Let your sexual reward system restabilize without artificial stimulation and watch what happens.
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hahaha
my friend. you have no idea of the pain that this statement of your ‘problem’ can possibly inspire in many of those reading about it.
Speaker: “Hello Sex Kings Anonymous. My name is @COWolfe and my problem is that I give women limitless orgasms and never get them pregnant”.
SKA Members: “Hello @COWolfe. Welcome.”
I’m kidding. Please just read it as humor. (Or freely express any irritation it might inspire. I know how annoying it can be when others frame your challenges as if they are privileges.)
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