My understanding is that you get recon at 3 min, you reduce exposure to 1min until that initial recon from 3min settles and integrates. Then you try 3 min again, repeat as many times as necessary
You can try anything between 1 minute and 3 minutes when you increase exposure again, depending on your own intuition and experience. I will put more guidance on this in the instruction manual shortly.
Itās a different build. Same script. Different rates of information delivery. Other minor changes, but the script content is the same.
And if there is no feeling of recon at all?
Asking for a friend.
It says in the manual
ā⦠noting at which exposure tier reconciliation occurs and staying at that listening exposure until reconciliation is no longer discernible during a rest day, you would increase exposure to the next interval.ā
Of course use common sense and trust your intuition.
well this phrase does seem like a contradiction to the example:
- Day 1: Listening (15 seconds)
- Day 2: No reconciliation discernible.
- Day 3: Listening (30 seconds)
- Day 4: No reconciliation discernible.
- Day 5: Listening (1 minute)
- Day 6: No reconciliation discernible.
- Day 7: Listening (3 minutes)
- Day 8: Experienced reconciliation.
- Day 9: Listening (1 minute*)
Like, when I read that phrase, Iād think that it would mean staying at 3min until no recon
This section also says reduce exposure rather than āstay at that listening exposureā:
a bit confusing to me honestly
If one has already run their sub for over a year, would they get better results with something like T Squared or QTKS if recon is not an issue? @SaintSovereign
This a treasure trove, thank you!
Yeah, I was under the assumption he read the whole thing.
The context for me was
If going up and feeling exposure, go down and stay there until the recon is low.
The common sense is, lower exposure, take longer rest days etc which only you can really feel the need for
@SaintSovereign what happened to the micro loop wid increment 3 titles on the same day listening pattern that u recommended in the past?
Iād say it depends on the recon.
If itās endurable, like just some slight headache after listening or minimal irritability the next day, Iād say, stay at that exact level of exposure. Until the recon is gone.
Only if the recon is too strong Iād reduce listening time.
Recon isnāt your enemy. He doesnāt have to be avoided at all costs.
Absolutely
I agree. I think itās written or was recommended before that itās about a balance between recon and results, and that balance is up to you.
I believe there will always be āreconā, no matter how low you go in exposure. Itās just a part of change.
Even if you stay at 10s for half a year, youāll still get recon. Youāre still changing, youāre still reconciling with the process of progressing.
The problem is when itās too much and becomes something that negatively affects you.
Slow, gentle progression can be, if not, as powerful as finding the āmost optimalā highest point of your sweet spot.
From my experience, itās almost as strong, but also significantly more consistent as I donāt have have to deal with shits going south because I failed to notice some recon until after the fact.
Itās also easier to deal with present recon as I can give more focus on solving one at a time. This spacing also allows me to go deep into every point of progress that recon presents to me, leading to more thorough resolutions than trying to move from one recon to another like hot potatoes.
Smooth progression is a viable & powerful option.
These instructions are excellent
It goes beyond loop length and covers things like actions and manifestations too
Pretty thorough information 
@SaintSovereign I want to (politely, of course) ask if you could discuss this in a little more depth? 
I submitted a Q&A about Terminus titles a few weeks back here, Iāve also submitted a ticket to support, and then followed up on their reply with another ticket, but Iām still pretty baffled as to the benefits of Terminus titles?
So, I get that they have a higher āinformation densityā.
But this leaves me with two questions:
- But if we consider the listening protocol for a standard ZP title (custom or name-embedded), where we can listen to (e.g.) 30s, 1m, 3m, 7m, 15m loops, does that mean for a Terminus title, if it has double the information density (e.g. āinstructions per secondā) then the standard listening protocol above has all the times halved (and quartered for Terminus Squared)?
And if not (or even if thatās true), is that it?
Are there other things? I feel there must be, otherwise, I donāt really get what the purpose of it is.
2) Also, how has the functionality of the Terminus format, or its effectiveness or ease of use etc been altered by the latest anti-recon and adaptive scripting technology? (if at all)
And one thing Iām confident of by now is that SubClub do not make redundant tech or release things to their customer without purpose 
I feel Iām missing something (or some things) here, but I donāt know what! Can you help? 
Even if I may (or may not) be ready for a Terminus title now, at some point later, I should be, so it would be good to know 
The new Instructions are to prepare for the future, as we are quickly heading into ZPU territory. The days must be offset because those titles are that powerful.
Itās probably better to go ahead and start practicing the new system, ask questions, point out where youāre confused so that I can clarify in the instructions (thatās why we soft launched them ā wanted to see whatās confusing everyone). These instructions will be vital to all future titles.
In fact, with EoG: True Sell, and the RICH titles, we arenāt āheading into ZPU territory,ā we are IN ZPU territory.
Thatās why we had to slow down, write the instructions and start helping everyone get used to them.
Still confused but im guessing this is prob proprietary info im asking about.
Either way, I am interested in trying it in future once I build a custom I love.
Curious to know what new tech or improvement you guys have in mind for ZPU.
For example, how would the new Rich line of product will expand beyond Adaptative Scripting and Anti-recon.
In fact, with EoG: True Sell, and the RICH titles, we arenāt āhearing into ZPU territory,ā we are IN ZPU territory
What changes here between C&C (which in my opinion is a major jump in terms of results) and Rich + True Sell.
What changes here between C&C (which in my opinion is a major jump in terms of results) and Rich + True Sell.
THIS. When I saw Saintās post, I had the exact same question in mind 
Exciting times ahead, canāt wait (but I guess Iāll have to, lol) 
But if we consider the listening protocol for a standard ZP title (custom or name-embedded), where we can listen to (e.g.) 30s, 1m, 3m, 7m, 15m loops, does that mean for a Terminus title, if it has double the information density (e.g. āinstructions per secondā) then the standard listening protocol above has all the times halved (and quartered for Terminus Squared)?
Not at all. You use them the same exact way with more caution in recon management. Iām not going to give out exact specifics on how ZPTās build. They are more powerful than the majority of people needs anyway and should only be used when you have mastered a title and want to extract more value.
I will add this guidance to the manual.
