EE 41s WB 9s
WB results great 
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The 3 sub every listening day thing is in an ambiguous state now. I’m not sure if it’s still recommended or not.
Well, when in doubt, experiment.
I want to ease it in, taking gradual approach through multiple cycles. From the lightest, to using all 3 subs every listening day.
EE is the base, It will always be played throughout the 30 listening days.
WB will have 5 day washouts every 4-14 listening days. Depending on the experiment.
DRR4 will be the sacrificial third sub that gets reduced exposure. It will also follow WB’s washouts whenever it applies.
I decided for DRR4 to take the role instead of WB. I’m confident with DRR’s consistency even with less frequent exposure. Add to that my 1y7m usage of the stages total. (EDIT: We’re just gonna conveniently gloss over the fact that I’m only around 1 month short of using WB for a year total, I’ve tasted the forbidden nectar and honestly, I don’t want to listen to it less frequently unless it’s necessary, ROFL)
Next cycle, I’ll use DRR4 once every 3 listening days. WB at 6 listening days before a washout. I’ll tinker more with them every cycle until i reach 3/LDay for 30 days straight.
If nothing goes wrong, i expect to reach it next year. Plenty of time to wait for WB’s update and potentially DRR’s too along the way.
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FWIW, even though I still run full loops at times, I’ll tend towards microloops of 3m30 or 4m30, anything up to 10 depending how adventurous I’m feeling, but usually towards the lower end, with whatever my primary subs are (at the moment AEON and HeO) getting the larger microloops.
Obviously this is a lot longer on the loops than you’re doing, but I’ll often take more rest days in between, sometimes even mini washouts, to allow the subs to sink deep enough into the subconscious and give them a chance to express themselves. I think there’s a connection between the length of the loop and how long it takes to disperse into the mind enough to feel comfortable running the next loop. Your strategy seems to involve shorter loops so that the integration time and intensity is reduced.
Am curious whether you’re still training or doing any kind of neigong work? I’ve seen in the past the subtle energies and sensitivity to your own physical/energy bodies can make a big difference in how well the script expresses.
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I used to do those too, short cycles, short microloops, plenty of rest days.
I feel those are the most stable overall.
But now I’m incorporating the new schedule since, well, the ones who created the subs vouch for it, even making it the default going forward. I doubt they’d even propose an idea this radical if they aren’t seeing clear benefits of it.
Though so far I’m finding it a bit hard, so I’m doing a hybrid instead.
I’m using my usual short cycles, but I won’t stop using EE in the washouts unless it’s after the 30th listening day.
From my experience, shorter loops can be just as intense.
One of the main reasons I use lower exposure is for the consistency of the results.
I find the clarity is also better, and as you said, easier to integrate.
I’ll bring this to the black journal 
it isn’t
The Alternating Pattern: Three Titles
If you are using three titles in your stack (the maximum allowed), we implement an alternating pattern to manage the increased processing load. This pattern prevents overwhelm while ensuring each title receives adequate attention and integration time.
The pattern works as follows:
- Day 1: Listen to Title 1 and Title 2 (together)
- Day 2: Rest
- Day 3: Listen to Title 3 (alone)
- Day 4: Rest
- Day 5: Listen to Title 1 and Title 2 (together)
- Day 6: Rest
- Day 7: Listen to Title 3 (alone)
- Day 8: Rest
I searched the answers saint gave to this and found:
Somehow I failed to read “The days must be offset because those titles are that powerful” and just read the rest of the answers where saint said “it’s probably better…”, which made me think it was still ambiguous.
Well this is straightforward then.
I’ll continue with my plan for the next cycle, then I’ll try this for the one after:
EEDRR
EEWB
repeat.
The 5 day washout every ~6 listening days for WB & DRR stays.
EE will continue during it uninterrupted as planned.
If this doesn’t work too, then I’ll get a custom for WB & DRR.
Either way, I think I finally got a valid reason to make customs at last. I just gotta wait for both WB & DRR to be updated, or just HeO.
Combining WB & HeO again this quickly is earlier than my plan, but with customs, I can just put MDFY: Freedom + Singularity Paradox and call it a day.
Update 1:
Here comes another plan for a custom that might or might not gonna be made, lol.
Custom 1:
Cores:
1 HeO
2 EE
3 UA
Essence:
4 ESSENCE: Clear Sight
5 ESSENCE: The Wonder and the Mystery
Synergy:
6 Synergy: Wisdom of the Ages
7 Synergy: Semper Praesens
8 Synergy: Carpe Vitam
Modules:
9 Experimental Adaptive Scripting
10 Experimental ZPU Anti-Recon
Custom 2:
Cores:
1 WB
2 DRR4
3 RICH
Essence:
4 ESSENCE: A Perfect Unyielding
5 ESSENCE: The Inner Spa
Synergy:
6 Synergy: Tale of the Dragon
7 Synergy: Energetic Transcendence
8 Synergy: Primordial Aura
Modules:
9 Experimental Adaptive Scripting
10 Experimental ZPU Anti-Recon
RICH instead of Alchemist: Singularity because I doubt AS is gonna be updated again with the new tech anytime soon. I decided not to include MDFY: Freedom & Singularity Paradox either because I remembered I can just microloop the hell out of everything.
That’s also why I decided to use 3 cores/custom. If it’s gonna take years to progress the microloop, so be it. It’s not gonna be the first time I take things extremely slow. I’ll just continue the microloop madness I’ve been doing now.
The goal is the same as the tried & tested flow of my current stack: Work hard, Play hard.
We have 4 cores for “work”, and WB for “play”. DRR4 will act as a booster, as usual.
Nothing will be different in what I do in my day to day life. I’ll expect a more diluted version of my current stack, but with the extra buff towards mastery & virtue from HeO, extra creativity from UA, and extra wealth from RICH. It’s a worthwhile exchange.
But I know 3 cores/custom is quite heavy, so I limit everything to only 10 modules.
ESSENCE limited to the recommended 2 max, SYNERGY to the recommended 3 max.
If I still find the stack to be too kitchensinky, then I’ll reduce the exposure frequency of the second custom or swap it for just DRR4. WB is the only kitchensinky one in this stack after all.
I also forgot we have the modules for Adaptive Scripting & Anti Recon. This is useful. I won’t need to wait for the updates for HeO, DRR4, & WB then. Though I still want to wait for the update for UA first.
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Just keep in mind 2 things.
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Customs are front loaded. So you’re getting the modules first. Depending on the amount of scripting of the modules, you might not even get anything from the cores if you run just 18 Seconds .
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This customs seem small, limited to 10 modules, but you chose dense ones. Only cores, Essences and Synergies. I’d say it’s rather probable that you could easily reduce the amount of modules in thai build.
So if you want it more focused and added just “fun” stuff to reach the 10 module limit, it’s probably not necessary.
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That’s a good thing then, i’m sure i won’t get into recon with the modules i picked. That will allow me to enter the reset hell much later on than 15s I do now, lol.
After i slept and read the list again, i think these two might be unnecessary? I do qigong and primordial aura sounds nice to direct that energy towards, but if i need to strip down the custom, these two can go.
I’ll try with them on. Worst case scenario, i’ll just remake the custom, no biggies.
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EE 44s WB 15s
Now that the hype has died down, I’m now clear about my view on HeroTLTB:
It doesn’t have as much virtue scripting as HeO.
What’s the point?
I fell in love with HeO specifically because of that aspect of the sub.
I thought it was the logical next step, but the more I think about it, the more sticking with HeO makes more sense in my case.
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Oh I didn’t see this.
Well, there goes my reason to get a custom again, lol.
HeO + EE, DRR4 + WB, and maybe UA + RICH.
UA & RICH are not as important, so it’s not as much of a juggle as what I’m trying to do right now with EE + WB + DRR. I can run it less often without sacrificing HeO & EE too much.
I’ll need to wait for WB to be updated first at least. I want to get at least one sub with adaptive scripting in my stack. I also need to confirm that I want DRR4 instead of DRR3. DRR4 is more holistic, but I love DRR3’s focus on transcending suffering.
EE is pretty up to date, HeO wasn’t mentioned for an update any soon.
So you’re good to buy your first twincore NE 
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I almost pulled the trigger on this one just now.
But I remembered my last run of HeO + WB months ago, it was too kitchensinky.
So either way, I gotta wait for WB’s adaptive scripting first, then hope for the best while spamming microloops even more aggressively than the last time.
I thought more about this.
If UA comes first before WB, I’ll do UA + EE instead. HeO can be the sacrificial third sub.
I’ve used that sub for god knows how long anyway, it’s not as necessary to have it as prominently in the stack. Though it would be very nice.
EE 44s WB 18s
Oh I was supposed to listen to EE for 43s last listening day.
Oops.
This is the 29th listening day, the next one I’m gonna temporarily spike EE to 15m and WB to 30s before the washout. I hope that is gonna go well. EE is obviously fine, but I hope almost 8 months straight of microlooping WB will allow me to go through it.
Maybe because there’s no HeO or DRR currently, I become aware that the “safe environment” I get from those when there’s a chance to progress isn’t just a safe situation, it’s also my ability to reframe the situation in my head from uncertainty towards safety.
This is very strong. This felt so normal before, but now that I’m taking a longer break from DRR, I’m getting more clarity about what it was doing.
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EE 15m WB 30s
Last day of the cycle.
Honestly, it feels much lighter without DRR in the stack.
I wonder if taking DRR less often is better in my case. I’ve been using it for 1y7m after all.
At this point I feel maintaining the effects is enough than a more active approach.
Once a week on top of my stack should do the trick.
I’ll stop microlooping EE so slowly now that the stack is lighter without DRR.
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I’m amazed at how much I can just detach from a feeling.
There’s no point in wishing for a better state or in avoiding another.
There’s “no” feeling, no “cause” of it, no “end” to it, and no way to end it.
There’s nothing to understand, nothing to reach, nothing that hasn’t been reached.
By accepting this, I’m able to just observe as they come & go, which is all that matters.
DRR3 is fucking insane. I love it.
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I revisited one of the chains that has been holding me back from the back of my mind.
And I found… relief.
Holy shit when the fuck did I process this?
DRR man. 1y7m well spent.
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Woah? A year 7 on DRR?
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yep, 7 months on both DRR1 & 2 in the span of a year (I stacked them together for some time), 7 months on DRR3, and a few weeks on DRR4.
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I saw a question about how much HeO gives mental clarity & stillness.
I genuinely forgot how I was back then before I used the sub, lol.
It doesn’t help that WB & DRR are building on top of what HeO has built.
Sometimes I feel so stale when talking with women, but it ended up working out either way.
Even with that, they looked like/straight up told me that they had a great time. They usually become the ones who try to make it work, even if they have to go through me being a dried brick.
When WB said you don’t have to put on spectacles and you just need to be yourself, it ain’t fucking kidding. You can be robotic, flat, cringy, or whatever the fuck and it will still work. Just be yourself and enjoy the show.
Or it could be pretty priviledge, lol.
Who knows, but either way, it’s also one of WB’s effects.
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I decided to take 7 rest days at the end of a cycle instead of just 5.
Taking the bare minimum is an unnecessary risk with the 2 month schedule.
This is day 6 of my washout, i still feel the effects as strongly as usual, even WB.
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