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nvm previous question, asked before reading lol, got too excited
it looks sick though, extremely thorough, thank you!
This is the most comprehensive information that SubClub ever wrote. Brilliant!
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Yes, it is applicable. With a title like Ascended Mogul – if you’ve been running it for awhile, you don’t have to start over through the progression because you’ve already achieved that level of success. You’ll have to be the judge of that. I am personally using progressive microloops regardless of the title.
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I was more interested in “30 active listening days” but I remember in the Experimental Microloop strategy thread you said that it’s best to use if titles have anti-recon in them, and old titles might not work as well with it
I was already at 3 minutes with C&C. I started with a 30 sec loop. I’m going to go back and start all over from 15 sec. I want to get the most juice out of C&C so I’ll stick to the instructions.
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With the new schedule, is 3 in a day still viable?
If 5 days is the minimum, what do you guys think is the most optimal washout period?
Do we just go by intuition to decide whether to take more after 5 days?
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Also, since I couldn’t find this in the instruction, is 2x full loops if there’s only 1 sub in the stack still viable with the new schedule?
Well now I know the difference between standard, Terminus and Terminus squared"
But it left me with more questions. So T just has twice the amount of info, and T squared has twice the amount of info as T?
But isn’t the full script already in the ZP standard? Is it the same scrip but twice in T? What is the more information here?
I do not understand.
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Since the new adaptative scripting in C&C it seems I can increase my exposure a lot without adverse consequences such as recon.
I’m even alternating the listening time, going up to 7 minute for one listen day and then back to 1 or 3 for the other. It seems I don’t really have issues with recon with this new tech. I even had good results when I did my last washout.
I still only have results toward the crown aspect of it, capital will come soon 
Might go to 12 minutes next listening day, see how I react, get more of the script in.
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Please note.
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I have a question. In this case if I go from 1 min to 3 min which triggers a recon, then I switch back to 1 min. So do I continue being on 1 min after that, or again try switching to 3 mins. How would the re-progression work?
I want to simplify the question:
If, due to reconciliation, I decide to return to a shorter loop (e.g., from 3 min down to 1 min), for how many listening days should I stay at the shorter time before I decide to try increasing again?
(My wager: it’s your own estimate/guess/choice as to when to try increasing again. But let’s see a more formal response.)
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My understanding is that you get recon at 3 min, you reduce exposure to 1min until that initial recon from 3min settles and integrates. Then you try 3 min again, repeat as many times as necessary
You can try anything between 1 minute and 3 minutes when you increase exposure again, depending on your own intuition and experience. I will put more guidance on this in the instruction manual shortly.
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It’s a different build. Same script. Different rates of information delivery. Other minor changes, but the script content is the same.
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And if there is no feeling of recon at all?
Asking for a friend.
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It says in the manual
”… noting at which exposure tier reconciliation occurs and staying at that listening exposure until reconciliation is no longer discernible during a rest day, you would increase exposure to the next interval.”
Of course use common sense and trust your intuition.
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well this phrase does seem like a contradiction to the example:
- Day 1: Listening (15 seconds)
- Day 2: No reconciliation discernible.
- Day 3: Listening (30 seconds)
- Day 4: No reconciliation discernible.
- Day 5: Listening (1 minute)
- Day 6: No reconciliation discernible.
- Day 7: Listening (3 minutes)
- Day 8: Experienced reconciliation.
- Day 9: Listening (1 minute*)
Like, when I read that phrase, I’d think that it would mean staying at 3min until no recon
This section also says reduce exposure rather than “stay at that listening exposure”:
a bit confusing to me honestly
If one has already run their sub for over a year, would they get better results with something like T Squared or QTKS if recon is not an issue? @SaintSovereign
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