Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 2)

#504

I’ve since PRd all the Lecter books in an attempt to “revive” “him”…but nothing came of it. I think it worked the first time because I was genuinely interested in trying it out.

I’ve not done it with other exemplars yet.
I did just drop an idea into the roadmap though regarding this.

EDIT: I actually DID do this one regarding Warren Buffett…there are TONS of books on that guy.
I will sound weird saying more, but I’ve got a mental “Sanctuary” I created using my skills as a hypnotist. From Sanctuary, I have a way to get to a “Construct” space like from the Matrix.

My amalgam of Buffett is standing there in the construct space kinda walking around and has been for 2-3 years now maybe. When I go in the construct during my little mental escapades, he waves and says “Hi (Palpatine’s IRL name)” the way only Buffett can.

I have a “control panel” in my construct which resembles an old teletype keyboard like I used to use on submarines in the radio room.

Once, a few years ago, I was lying bed, in the construct, just messing around, and I typed in a command on the control panel keyboard for my body to ramp up pheromone production by 300% or some crazy number.

The wife stirred in bed about 5 seconds later, woke up…wanted it…I obliged.
I’ve yet to be able to recreate that though.

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#505

Having gone through this extreme for many months of running Emperor, I see things very differently now. Emperor ZP doesn’t push me to this extreme at all, in fact I have been more proactively social.

The way I see it is you’re making a sacrifice for the benefit of your future self. The question is how is your ROI. If you’re seeing new revenue streams and structures that could lead to further freedom, it’s worth it in my opinion. If you’re shaping your body into the best health, shape, and attractiveness you’ve been in, it’s worth it. If you’re developing your character in the extremes of discipline, intentionality, and work ethic and you can translate that over into faster and more effective action with whatever you choose to do, all worth it.

What I noticed was I was doing this but at some point, it went out, all my energy, focus, and extreme discipline were going towards proving something that was going nowhere, yielding no ROI or benefit for my future self.

Whatever the case, just consciously making time to do things for fun and their own sake is a great practice, and actually seems to boost productivity and effectiveness.

Emperor ZP I’m giving another cycle so let’s see how it orients this intense but meaningful focus next round

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#506

I did the Silva Method course and one of the things that I was taught was to visualize a space in the Mind’s Eye where a "panel of advisors"would be available to solve your problems.

Think Napoleon Hill espoused a similar approach.

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#507

That’s super insightful @Azriel thank you for your input. That’s exactly on the money with my experience

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#508

I’d have created a new thread for this issue, but me spending almost an hour catching up on ZP updates–and grasping insights–has me airing this here. Also, I’m on day 2 of a 3 day washout.

I’m wondering “am I planning on using the subs which work best for me?”

I’m an INFP, like @Budewr, @Palpatine, and @AlexanderGraves are. I lean towards creativity and expressing myself, and I am drawn towards helping people. What I’ve focused on for eons is healing old thoughts and behaviors since I’ve had this “I am broken” mentality. I lean into feelings heavily, and I find stuff I reject in myself quickly, leading me further into more “healing”.

I’ve made plans to start Kahn St1 since its healing is good. It has a very strong masculinity and sexual push in it–which are parts of me I’ve often overlooked and dismissed. I still ask “is this what I really need?”

For the last 2 days, I’d been feeling different, like my curiosity, awareness, and objectivity meshed together. I wondered about @RVconsultant’s reply in my Chosen thread regarding using Alchemist to remove negative thinking. I even had the Alchemist buy page open last night, but I’ve not purchased it yet. Others have pointed me back to spiritual focuses, but I’ve declined often due to irrational childhood beliefs about God. It’s all based in fear though; not a good measuring stick.

And then, reading this thread has me really itching to pick up Mind’s Eye, something I’ve considered more in recent weeks. And I did use Renaissance Man in QV2 with clear and vivid results. Both help creative people blossom.

To summarize: I’ve been seeking to be healed from feeling like a “broken man”. It’s an endless circle. And not a joyful place for me.

What stack(s) might I consider going forward? I’d like to be ok with me once again–and I’m desiring some results soon. I’ll be ready to start a new stack Monday. It’s Saturday now.

Major hitters:
Kahn
Alchemist
Dragon Reborn
Stark (I loved this years back)

Possible add-ons:
Sage Immortal
Love Bomb
Mind’s Eye
Renaissance Man
Power Can Corrupt
GLM
Elixir (Thanks @James)

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#509

So I’m gonna try to hit this from the MBTI angle.

INFPs lead with Fi. Contrary to the myths surrounding the internet it’s not emotion. It’s a well practiced subconscious method of parsing and filtering data from the outside world. But this lands INFPs into trouble when they’ve had less that desirable world experiences. It can lead to being stuck in a loop, sometimes what’s perceived as healing to an INFP can actual just be a thought spiral about old situations played back over and over. I can’t say for 100% certain, but it’s possible INFPs are more prone to trauma and getting stuck in it due to this. Fi is kind of like closing your eyes and navigating through the world. Imagine just growing up doing that but you just get sucker punched everywhere in the perceived darkness, not a good feeling.

Which leads me to the next function in the stack that’s important. Ne. Ne is the web of experiences INFPs have. Unfortunately if you’re bogged down in emotional damage the tendency to turn inwards cuts out the Ne experience. Which is ironically what probably would help most. INFPs need external experiences and new events that break the old patterns and loops they might be stuck in. Easier said than done, I’m the perfect example.

Then the last two, which are still important but I won’t dive into. Si. Basically the experiences in life Fi refers back to to support Fi’s conclusion. Again not good if your past has been rocky. And Te, external thinking. Basically the ability to plan, strategize, or externalize what goes on inside the INFPs mind.

All that being said. It sounds like you could use a stack that will get you out of your head more and experience more joy in life, but also a sort of “protective” layer so past wounds don’t interfere.

My recommendation would be

Stark(This might activate your Ne more and encourage you to get outside your head more and into the world. Away from the broken mentality

Love Bomb (That broken feeling, it’s a painful one. Self-love is important for that)

Maybe PCC depending on how you tolerate three titles. PCC would be good to put a stop to any individuals who might want to swoop in like a vulture and re-trigger old wounds. Prevention is better than having an emotional crisis and trying to re-heal episodes of emotional upheaval.

All that being said this is my perspective. What I’ve learned over the years is sometimes one sided healing focus can land you in a bit of trouble. Of course I’m a hypocrite because I’m running Regen solo right now lol. But after 2 cycles I plan to switch to Ascension or come up with my own stack.

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Finding my True North
#510

Your conclusions about thinking styles were spot on since I could really grasp the thinking styles.

The endless cycle? Yep. The one thing that popped up in my head instantly considering Stark as my main sub was doubt. All sorts of internal whining popped up. But Love Bomb is the soother in it, cancelling endless doubts and fears from emerging. I used LB with my last run of CFW, and I felt it.

Lastly, I’m having more desire for Sage Immortal vs. PCC. I think, but am not sure, if elements of PCC are in Stark. May I hear your thoughts on this?

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#511

Stark sounds like a good fit because you already have positive association with it. I think your intuition is correct.

Sage Immortal seems rather complex and deep. The reason I recommended PCC is because it has a very clear straightforward focus. It would serve as a good add on that wouldn’t kick up much reconciliation due to it being more about awareness and protection. I’ve never personally run it, but I had the manipulus module in my qv2 custom for a bit and it was very helpful.

If you’ve been doing a lot of emotional healing and struggling, then you’ve been in a lot of pain. And when there’s a lot of pain there’s inevitably dissociation. Sage Immortal might be too expansive when what you need is physical grounding.

But ultimately it’s up to you. What is your primary motivation for running Sage Immortal?

I’m not saying this is you, but it does happen. Sometimes what’s known as “spiritual bypassing”. Where individuals attempt to escape deeper more complex emotional problems through escaping into spiritual practices. The quest for more spirituality is born out of escaping vs organic development. I’m of the belief that before heavy spirituality practices one should have a relatively firm grounding in the physical and have mastery over it somewhat.

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#512

Amen brother. :sweat_smile:

Too true. There is still a strong urge to legally and deceptively hide from truth often. And the washout I’m in is allowing stuff to surface still. Thanks for calling it out.

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#513

No problem. I never know if I’m on the mark with these inights, so I’m glad when it helps. But I think if anything stark and love bomb would be an awesome combo. I’d sleep on the Sage Immortal vs PCC a bit and see how you feel.

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#514

Hoping for Beyond limitless zp after these two release.

#515

Yeah. Stark has enough in it to process. Adding LB will be interesting since Stark is an attention grabber already.

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#516

@SaintSovereign Update on EOG ZP?

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#517

It’s the weekend :dragon:

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#518

I know but they were having issues with Q yesterday and stated that EOG and QL would come today

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#519

Check out yesterday’s post:

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#520

@Seeker what are you seeking :)?

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#521

I’ve been looking for confirmations on me heading towards Stark myself. It worked very well when I used the Q version. I’m an INFP, and I can discredit gains in my own life. That’s why I looked around and found your reply.

I’ll be mixing it with Love Bomb initially. Where my mind goes from there is unknown, but I did just purchase ME. It is TOO damn interesting.

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#522

Stark, LB and ME sounds like a super interesting stack. You’ll be manifesting fans by the sounds of it. :wink:

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#523

EoG on deck. Gonna take a bit, as it’s a four stager.

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