Yeah but you also have to consider some people don’t want that and it’s fine. I don’t think the whole “men are meant to do xyz, to be fulfilled” thing is conducive to a healthy psyche. Some guys want to sit on an empire, some are just content to follow life in a more low key way. I think a lot of principles of masculinity are old and outdated, also exploitative in a way because it reduces them to what they do and not who they are as an individual. It’s like leaving one box and putting yourself in another, it’s not true freedom.
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Agreed, at the end of the day any argument you can make to say chasing hookups is meaningless could also be used to saying chasing money is meaningless. At the end of the day its about what a person values and makes him feel fulfilled. This is different for every person. (Ofcourse assuming someones essential needs are already met)
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ZP tech uses Solace mask, doesn’t it? Do customs have Solace mask only for extra 30 dollars pay?
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Yep. $30
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How about you decide what it is to be a man, and what you find fulfilling?
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Chosen, Stark, PCC, GLM, Ascension, HOM
Yes, but sexuality is a secondary focus in those titles.
In Khan, sexuality is the primary focus.
Most categories have a multi-stager. Khan for seduction. EOG for wealth, Alchemist for spirituality, and DR for healing. Emperor Fitness for health. Quantum Limitless for learning.
The only two other categories in the whole store are status and skills. Obviously, skills won’t have a multi-stager. But why doesn’t status? Why doesn’t Chosen and Ascension’s category have a multi-stager?
Look. Chosen and Ascension are great. Khan is great. Great, just different. Khan, it’s sexual. Chosen, it’s not sexual. When you compare the two, it’s not too hard to see that.
I don’t know who the fudge thought I said “LETS MAKE A SUBLIMINAL THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO SEX WHATSOEVER, A CELIBATE ENTREPRENEUR, A MONK-LIKE WARRIOR COMMITTED TO MGTOW PRINCIPLES.”
Guys. C’mon. That’s not what I’m saying.
Here were my exact words.
And the key words…
Because literally, Mike Tyson and Steve Jobs would never have run Khan, because the title gets you obsessed with sex, and apparently…
Sometimes, men that are on massive missions and have massive purpose need to focus every second of their life, every ounce of their personal development, every hour of their work, on furthering their mission.
That’s the fudging champion’s grind mentality. The idea of some woman that’s not their wife or a girlfriend or at least an established friends with benefit coming up and distracting them with sex would literally piss them off.
When he’s ready for sex, he’ll seek it out, and maybe he has someone patiently waiting for him that submits to him whenever he wants it, no matter what that frequency is. Maybe his mindset is that he can get sex whenever he wants but he never thinks about it unless he’s free to, and then he enjoys it before going back to his purpose.
Obviously, sex is still a part of that man’s life. Instead of creating a subliminal that would (in Nero’s words)
(which would be bad to avoid)
There could be a subliminal to help us do exactly what Steve Jobs and Mike Tyson did.
Ascended Alpha’s sexual scripting could help grow, but also help TRANSFORM that sexual energy into creative energy, if we chose. Just like Napoleon Hill talks about in his book Think And Grow Rich.
And of course, it could also help us find sexual relationships and have a sex life that’s balanced but fulfilled, instead of focused on copious quantity.
Or… like literally EVERY other multi-stager…
Emperor Fitness, Quantum Limitless, Ecstasy Of Gold, Alchemist, Dragon Reborn…
There could be absolutely ZERO mention of sexuality whatsoever.
Go look!
None of the sales pages mention romance or sex AT ALL except for EOG, and with EOG…
Because the point of a multi-stager is different from a hom/chosen/emperor title.
Dragon Reborn does mention you’ll see yourself as more attractive, but that’s a divine self-image thing, first and foremost.
HOM/Stark/Ascension are meant to be single-stack titles that work well on their own and hit every aspect of your life so completely that you don’t have to stack them with anything else (if you don’t want to.)
They touch on every area of your life, including sex, at least a little bit. Doesn’t mean that’s their focus.
Meanwhile, multi-stagers go really really really deep into one specific area of people’s lives. So, that’s why I originally said
Just wanted to clear up the confusion. Thanks for helping me see where any miscommunications in this might’ve been, I feel like I couldn’t express this anymore completely now, and that it’s a lot better expressed than it was before, so I’ll leave it alone now.
And by the way.
I have said the same thing myself a few times and couldn’t agree more.
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I feel like the Super High Alpha Self Confidence is closer to the Emperor line of products than Ascension or Chosen.
Or…
"The Chosen Emperor"
Like…
Stage 1 = Chosen Within + Ascension
Stage 2 = Chosen + Ascended Mogul
Stage 3 = Chosen Within + Emperor
Stage 4 = Chosen + Emperor
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It seems to me that you’ve never experienced the true power of Khan, guys. I’ve run it only once and it was the pre-Q tech. Oh man, that was a ride. 
edit:
I guess this is the most interesting goal of Khan:
- Reforge yourself and even mold your personality if so desired, in a way that is the most perfect, most powerful representation of you.
I must admit that rerunning Khan (now in ZP) is a must for me.
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Up there is my listening scedule in the nearly last two months, as you can see I got nearly two rest days, but I still was feeling that recon is not finished. Last night in the end of the night I was seeing recon lifted, but again today I felt tiredness and very mild recon.
I just wanna ask do you think I should continue listening to this pattern? 3 min of 3 subs every other day? I assume there is recon from my past when I was listening to full loops every other day, but don’t you think since I am listening to 9 mins every other day, even the past recon which is in line would pass and dissipate?
I would say RTFM!
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“RTFM” is very rarely a useful response 
Care to expand on anything?
It is short for „please be so kind and carefully read the instructions again and compare each step you have done to what you should have done.“
Switching within a few days too many titles and running 3 ZP titles per day is as far as I know not recommended as usage pattern, therefore the results can deviate from expectations or even lead to more recon.
But I am not the most experienced person, it is just my opinion.
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I know what it means. That response just very rarely adds any actual value to a thread.
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Ok, I try again:
People should first try to use things according to the instructions instead of experimenting and asking why it does not work.
It is like a recipe for cooking but instead of trying it according to the instructions to find out how it tastes according to the original instructions and after that changing as little variables as possible you start with just experiment with everything and then ask others why it does not taste like you would like it to.
There is nothing wrong with experimentation but then you should also state clear when your cycle begins and when it ends, and which programs are in that cycle.
Maybe also posy that in a thread with experimental usage patterns so people can easily find it.
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I think ONLY mentioning saint was not a bad idea
Anyways, I have been following guidelines.
and “IDGAF” if you are unhappy 
People should do that people should do that blah blah blah
Look at the photo
I mostly followed guidelines and was not complaining rather asking for saint’s opinion on the issue I am encountering.
I had waay harsh recon when I was running one title and following guidelines, and sometimes I had 2 rest days.
If it’s not working why the fuck would I listen to it until now:neutral_face:
If your question is more about a personal suggestion from saint to you, there might be your dedicated question thread.
If your question is helpful for more people then a dedicated thread about experimental usage pattern is useful.
When you talk about 3 subs for 3 minutes a day you there might be a misunderstanding. One could interpret you listen to the same 3 subs for the whole cycle where it seems to me you exchange the titles and you more or less keep the number of subs constant. Please define closer what you mean.
Bro I ain’t a saint
In current cycle there Was a day which I needed my dick hard as a diamond and myself as a sex master
And there was a night which I needed to be a spartan.
And I ran spartan in my rest day.
If you look closer at the picture you’ll know everything, no need for you to care about if it’s transparent enough to Saint or not.
This is the fucking zero point thread and my question is on fucking zero point. I ask it here.
Thank you ladies and gentlemen
WANTED makes me very rogue
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