When I introduced myself to this forum a long time ago, I said how I spent 8 months in a meditation center, the silent retreats hosted by the vipassana center and SN Goenka.
I experienced what I believe would be the first Jhana, a concentration Jhana, NOT a wisdom Jhana, in case you know what I’m referring to.
It’s about as advanced as saying, in fitness terms, I was advanced enough that I did a muscle-up. Jacked… but not world-class by ANY means.
Meditation is the process of creating a blank slate.
If you look up meditation’s theology, it is essentially a process of eliminating all reactivity. Reactivity is what conditions the mind. When you react to sadness, you condition yourself to react to negative sensations with an unbalanced mind… and you condition yourself to only feel happiness by the absence of negativity, which will never happen for very long.
Similarly, when you react to happiness, in meditative terms, that is actually a bad thing as well, because you condition yourself to react to positive sensations with a sense of craving and attachment… you condition yourself to only be happy when they’re present, and to react to their passing with a sense of anguish and grief.
Meditation is not about the absence of pleasure. It is about the absence of craving. About feeling pleasure regardless of whether or not there are any positive sensations. About feeling pleasure even in the middle of negative sensations like physical pain or emotional grief.
When I had that Jhana experience, that was almost a blank-slate. I had no reactivity. I was pure consciousness, in the sense that I was not reacting to anything, except with a slight attachment to the postiivity. But even that was 90% purity, and was prfoundly life altering. Being in the meditative environment, I was able to reprogram myself for days and days after that with love, kindness, non-reactivity, mental purity. That’s why even after 2 months of that experience, it was enough that I’ve never wanted to watch porn since that moment, permanently changed my body language, altered my smile, changed the resonance of my laugh, removed massive tension from my body.
But it was a slower burn. I had been working for months, before experiencing that, which is what made it possible, and also, which is what actually makes it more effective and permanent.
Take another example. DMT is a fast-acting blank slate inducer. But it’s effects come and go so quickly that people have hard time gaining specific, measurable insights that truly enhance their life. However, they’ll still come out of the experience changed. HOWEVER, when you take that same DMT molecule, and mix it with substances which slow down it’s process so that you remain a blank slate for 8-14 hours, the results are much more more effective. That slower version of DMT is called ayahuasca, a tribal healing medicine. Iboga lasts much longer and is said to have much more far-reaching effects still. Meditation retreats are even longer still, at 10 days long at the minimum, and people have potentially less INTENSE results, but certainly more numerous and permanent effects…
The longer someone is in a blank-state for, the more impactful the results are.
So, no, I am not saying that it’s IMPOSSIBLE to instantly remove a thought process. It probably is possible. But the quicker an effect comes, the quicker an effect goes. Even if it were possible, I wouldn’t search for speed. I’d search for consistency.
That’s what I like about subliminals most of all… some people come here for quick results, but many people are here for year long journeys that utterly change their lives. I’ve changed more from 2 years of subliminals than I did from 8 months of meditating, even though my results from the meditation are what most people would call “impossible.”
The Buddhists define enlightenment as the complete elimination of all negativity… and they say that negativity in any form grows like mold. Unless you completely remove 100% of it, it will always grow and multiply. Even if 0.00001% of it remains, if it’s not cut off at the source, it will grow back and multiply.
Fast acting results will bring a belief pattern from 100% to 0.00001% very quickly, but potentially impermanently. However, a slow-acting healing modality like subliminals will bring belief patterns from 100%, to 80%, to 50%, to 10%, to 0.0001% eventually… and if they become a conscious part of the lifestyle of the user, then that person will learn how to live a life in such a way that the belief patterns he’s trying to eliminate never grows or multiplies ever again, and eventually goes from 0.1% to 0.001% to 0.000001% etc.
But, I guess this is a hard-wired belief, and slap me for believing it, but I don’t think that a belief or set of beliefs, let alone consciousness itself, can ever go to 0% negativity, so long as the user is unwilling to live an input-free life. Certainly not from a 5 minute youtube video, or something that someone has made their “career” to help people with. Sorry. But marketing don’t sell me that way.