Main Disc. Thread - Q Core v2 Upgrades

[Meng123]

Maybe try 1 loop instead of 2 for qv2.my sweet spot was 3 for qv1 but more than 1 loop of qv2 causes tiredness,mild recon instead of executing

[pacman]

I assume it’s the removal of the additional alpha scripting. So basically now you are processing the actual script which will results in hard reconciliation as well.

Just my assumption

[TheBoxingScientist]

@Meng123 will try one loop perhaps you are right.

@pacman i think your spot on i think the alpha script which was present in Q was perhaps preventing me from getting recon. Acting like a bullet proof vest. Now that has been removed i just dont have that protection anymore.

Maybe i should run rebirth before running q2.

[Meng123]

Haha,i tried that too.rebirthU definitely helps the programs work/process better.careful with the new v2 ultimas though,they are pretty energy hungry.my friend and i could run v1 ultimas 5 days a week and be fine.v2 ultimas burn us out after 2-3 days in a row so might wanna start slow if your stack is dense

[Eric]

isn’t Qv2 supposed to reduce recon? wasnt that the whole point

[Meng123]

Theres different types.qv2 doesnt cause much recon for me but is causes overload/stonewalling easier than qv1 if the number of loops are wrong

My problem with Q

The official recommendation for Q says what? “… If you listen Monday – Friday, take Saturday and Sunday off. If you listen Sunday – Thursday, take Friday and Saturday off, and so forth. Do NOT skip these two rest days. Like going to the gym, your mind needs time to relax and process the subliminal scripting. Skipping these rest days can result in overload (fatigue and headaches), stonewalling (a total lack of results), or reconciliation (emotional turmoil associated with integrating the subliminal input with your current beliefs).”

[TheBoxingScientist]

Will run rebirth tonight before running the majors

@Eric Well alot people have spoke highly of V2 however even my custom V2 sub at 2 loops makes me feel down and angry.

This never happened in my previous custom Q.

[Eric]

ooh yaa thats why need more rest days

[Eric]

its ok
dont be down and angery
increase tha rest day and less loop will be better

[Meng123]

Haha,i agree on the more rest days and less loops.was getting mild burnout/stonewalling on 2 loops of 2 programs twice a day.2 programs 1 loop each and a rest day in middle of week seems to work better.wanted is really energy hungry too.first time ive had a program tire me out that much of all the time ive been here

[Meng123]

Qv2 is still a bit of a conundrum to me.cant wait for the new instructions

Main Disc. Thread - R.I.C.H. Crypto Ultima + Solace Prototype

As in listening instructions? That will come in a bit.

[Brandon]

I’m genuinely feeling so tired on Qv2. I did put it to being out of lockdown and just teaching/dancing more but I know it’s the subs too as I don’t wanna do anything at all.

I’ve played 3 loops of WANTED, MSQV2, and 2 loops of R.I.C.H and Limit Destroyer this week and I’m wiped out. I’m gonna need an extra nap today.

I’m getting the effects of WANTED today as it’s my rest day but I’m so tired.

I’m already going down to 2 loops of each per week for each sub next week…

[Meng123]

Yeah,wanted is pretty energy hungry.been alot more tired since adding it into my custom.hope it reduces the more we use it the ultima v2’s are just as draining for me

[Meng123]

Could be more execution of the actual title instead of the alpha/healing script like pacman said also.could cause reversal recon

Main Disc. Thread - Dragon Reborn Multistage + Ultima

This is also one of the reasons that we left out a lot of that healing scripting in the Qv2 Mandatory Core and the Ultima v2 Mandatory Core. With Qv1’s Mandatory Core (and Ultima, just assume I’m saying that every time I say Qv1), every title had alpha and healing scripting – even when it didn’t really need it, and even when the title’s core had it. That double whammy of the healing scripting in both the title core (like Emperor Core, for example) AND the Q Mandatory Core was overwhelming users, getting them stuck in “healing hell,” without enough execution of the actual title scripting.

What we ended up with was a bunch of people claiming they weren’t getting results, but when you read their posts / journals, you could see that they were just stuck in a cycle of almost neverending reconciliation from the healing. When we removed it from the Q core and simply boosted the healing in the title core (a tiny bit), tests showed that the healing cycles weren’t nearly as harsh and overpowering and testers actually began to see results that were very related to the title they were running.

This happened when q first got introduced too.advice is still good.recently been experimenting with splitting the loops to morning/night

Main Discussion Thread - Q

Take Sex Mastery X2Q, which I’ve seen posted about here. If you run Sex Mastery X2Q and your results REVERSE, that’s reconciliation – the subliminal itself is fine. We didn’t change the script much (if any) for SMX2Q because we didn’t want to ruin the experience for our users. It’s primarily a build change, which wouldn’t cause you to lose results. It IS, however, much more powerful in the sense that your subconscious is receiving more information than running regular X2. That amount of information could trigger reconciliation, as the mind has less time to process what it’s receiving, especially if you’re running it in a stack. You can alleviate this by either hyper-focusing on one or two titles, OR, run one loop of a title in the morning, another at night.

Another alternative is simply playing “dummy” files in between titles. For example, run one loop of StarkQ, then a dummy file of empty silence or just nature sounds, then your second loop. Those moments of silence will give your subconscious time to catch up.

The best suggestion, however – ESPECIALLY with Terminus… run less loops or take rest days

[SaintSovereign]

I assume it’s the removal of the additional alpha scripting. So basically now you are processing the actual script which will results in hard reconciliation as well.

This is 100% correct. Stick with it. Trust me, it’ll be worth it.

[Palpatine]

The biggest change I see in QV2 is that with QV1 I got the hyper-specific dream content mainly on nights I ran stuff while asleep. @SaintSovereign confirmed for me at that time that the specific and vivid dreams pole that are from the SubC processing the scripts.

With QV2, I still have those kinds of dreams even on nights i skip subs while asleep! Sometimes they’re even MORE pronounced on “rest nights.”

[Sirius]

How is literally everyone experiencing some kind of side-effects running Qv2 format, but me nothing lol.
Not that im complaining tho, its just weird . I can literally run 5 loops of Qv2 without experiencing any difficulties.

[RVconsultant]

I’m wiped out. I’m gonna need an extra nap today.

I’m getting the effects of WANTED today as it’s my rest day but I’m so tired.

I’m already going down to 2 loops of each per week for each sub next week

And if you go to 1 loop of each per week, that might be all you need.

[Brandon]

I agree for sure.

[Azriel]

@TheBoxingScientist you gotta drop the loops on QV2 mate
the recon is harder and stronger in the beginning but the results are better after that.

I miss aspects of the smoothness, obviousness, and more Alpha-ness of Q at times, but the execution and external results are faster and more powerful on QV2. After a while the alpha-ness on Emperor actually was stronger and smoother.

Did Stark QV2 today for a test- so will report back on differences with that one.
So far from @Sub.Zero and @Apollo they got initially better results/experiences on Stark Q but didn’t stay on QV2 too long (I believe…correct me if I’m wrong gentleman)