Main Disc. Thread - Power Can Corrupt ZP

[Luther24]

I can’t say, because I never permanently incorporated them into my being.

I don’t have any use or interest for PCC or the 48 Laws of Power.

[7empest]

How come?

Edit: I’m also curious why you’re commenting here if you have no interest in PCC. This is a thread for PCC after all.

[7empest]

A week for me. I listened briefly last year though. I’m reading the book too. Have watched some videos on it before.

I feel that Genesis helped with this.

[bombayduck]

Odd that you would say that, considering that you’re the user I associate most with PCC; you’re the one who first brought PCC onto my radar.

Never really came across it being discussed until you wrote a large and detailed post about it last year on why it was incredibly slept-on.

[Luther24]

@7empest

How come?

Back when I had to deal with manipulative people, then yeah PCC was great.

PCC’s scripting is focused heavily on defense against manipulation.

The thing is, I’m always surrounded by positive people. People are always bringing me free stuff. The only defense I need, is something that will help me to not get mauled by hugs.

It’s quite nice for a change, since the first 20 or so years of my life, was me unknowingly being manipulated, taken advantage of and treated like a total shit bag.

If you encounter toxic people, then yeah PCC is an option. If you’re in a competitive work environment or trying to make it in Hollywood or something… then yeah PCC can help you cultivate that external power.

In terms of cultivating deep relationships and charisma, I much prefer subliminals like Chosen, True Sell, LBFH, etc.

[7empest]

Nice

That’s helpful.

For my court experience/dealing with the ex’s family stuff, this sub and the book are definitely useful.

Other than that, I’d much prefer LB, LBFH, True Sell or Stark for magnetism, love aura & charisma etc.

[JCDenton]

@Luther24

The thing is, I’m always surrounded by positive people.

I totally get what you’re saying.

In my private life I am now only surrounded by authentic and positive people – LBFH and Khan made sure of that

The only life area left for me where I still have to navigate through the crazy NPC world is the corporate work environment, at least until I manifest financial freedom. Until then, I see PCC as a helpful tool in navigating this corporate environment and for knowing whom I can trust and whom not.

[RVconsultant]

@Luther24

It’s quite nice for a change, since the first 20 or so years of my life, was me unknowingly being manipulated, taken advantage of and treated like a total shit bag.

@JCDenton

In my private life I am now only surrounded by authentic and positive people – LBFH and Khan made sure of that

I’m happy for both of you that your lives have gotten better in this way.

[ouroboros]

PCC & HOM in a custom together have skyrocketed my sales success - running a custom with HOM and EOG1 immediately lost the effect, and the drive associated.

@ouroboros

I am listening to the 48 laws of power summary and tbh I think it may be a big factor in my overall drive and ambition.

Law 23 - concentrate your forces

Conserve your forces and energies by keeping them concentrated at their strongest point. You gain more by finding a rich mine and mining it deeper than by flitting from one shallow mine to another. Intensity beats extending every time. When looking for sources of power to elevate you find the one key patron (the fat cow) that will give you milk for a long time to come

Also laws about getting attention and reputation at all costs which was my motivation when I wanted to break the record and out do everyone.

Law 28 - act with boldness, if you have doubts, do not attempt it. Any mistakes you make through audacity can be solved with more audacity

Law 29 - plan all the way to the end, the ending is everything. Take into account all possible twists and consequences. By planning to the end you will not be overwhelmed by circumstances.

Law 30 / make your accomplishments seem effortless and natural.

@Azriel

So PCC may have more been more the direct contributing factor towards success then previously noted.

I honestly loved PCC and have not run it in ZP.
It may be worth some testing.

@ouroboros

Well here’s what I can say. I went to the HOM/PCC custom last night and I feel AMAZING again today. Like I’m ready to crush out another record-breaking week, and I’ve snapped out of my haze and realized “holy shit how did i slack off so much all week!”

It’s crazy how much leadership I’ve been expressing unconsciously. I’m a very go-go-go personality on the team, and when I’m constantly crushing it, guys are motivated to do better than they normally would. When I slowed down, the whole team slowed down and this week was garbage for everyone.

PCC has that leadership for sure, but i’m realizing it is SOOOOO much more than a social subliminal.

It is a subliminal that gets you obsessed with playing the power GAME.

One of the laws, paraphrasing, to “be the perfect courtier, be the person who thrives in environments where power and politics and influence is the primary driver.”

The basis of the 48 laws of power (book) is not just to understand the laws, but to become obsessed with winning it. Therefore, for me, drive is at an all time high, procrastination is at an all time low, for the social implications success & procrastination would have. If I am crushing it every week, then I’m getting attention and validation & more power every single week. If I’m constantly dialing and taking calls and asking for help closing big deals (then they actually close), i’m getting even MORE attention, showing people that I’m the driving force behind $$$ in the company. And if I procrastinate, I lose that influence, I hide in the shadows, I start to look bad, and none of that is in line with PCC.

And it’s unlocked a motivation in me that is a blend of intrinsic and extrinsic. I’m intrinsically motivated to impress others, lol. Power, even though you could call it “external,” is a deeply internal drive.

SO much more than a “social/manipulation” sub. It had me obsssed with introducings people in my network together, being the leader of collaboration projects between them, and of course gave the drive to successfully lead those projects because if I took on leadership and then fell short that would look BAD, not GOOD.

@ouroboros

How much does GLM:Co create a productivity/action taking mindset compared just to a status creation mindset? What I loved about Commander was an extremely potent productivity sub unlike anything else in the store. Different in effect than LE or EXEC

@Fire

I’d say it depends on how much your status is tied to your productivity. That is different for everyone. If by a large amount, then I can imagine people using GLMC for productivity.

Try it and see how it goes for you.

I know that he was referring to GLM:Co, but I feel this exact effect strongly and clearly in PCC.

[ouroboros]

I feel @Alphamale and @Vesper and @Luther24 will like this post ^

[ouroboros]

I made a post transcribing the 48 laws of power summary, summarized by Robert Greene himself.

Here are a few of the laws, go to the post to see the full 48 laws.

Writing this out was fascinating, made me realize PCC is SO MUCH MORE than just “manipulation protection” or even a socail sub. It encompasses wealth, power, love and sex, quality of life overall, career, how you spend your personal time, even your inner motivations and drive to succeed.

@ouroboros

Law 23: Concentrate your forces.

Conserve your forces and energies by keeping them concentrated at their strongest point.

You gain more by finding a rich mine and mining it deeper than by fleeting from one shallow mine to another. Intensity beats extensity every time.

When looking for sources of power to elevate you, find the one key patron, the fat cow, who will give you milk for a long time to come.

Law 24: Play the perfect courtier.

The perfect courtier thrives in a world where everything revolves around power and political dexterity. He has mastered the art of indirection. He flatters, yields to superiors, and asserts power over others in the most oblique and graceful manner.

Learn and apply the laws of courtiership and there will be no limit to how far you can rise in the court.

Law 25: Recreate yourself

Do not accept the roles that society thrusts on you, recreate yourself by forging a new identity, one that demands attention and never bores the audience.

Be the master of your own image rather than let others define it for you.

Incorporate dramatic devices into your public gestures and actions, your power will be enhanced and your character will seem larger than life.

Law 26: Keep your hands clean

You must seem a paragon of civility and efficiency.

Your hands are never soiled by mistakes and nasty deeds.

Maintain such a spotless appearance by using others as unwitting pawns and screens to disguise your involvement.

Law 27: Play on people’s need to believe to create a cultlike following.

People have an overwhelming desire to believe in something, become the focal point of such desire by offering them a cause, a new faith to follow.

Keep your words vague, but full of promise. Emphasize enthusiasm over rationality and clear thinking.

Give your new disciples rituals to perform, ask them to make sacrifices on your behalf.

In the absence of religions, your new belief system will bring you untold power.

Law 28: Enter action with boldness

If you are unsure of a course of action, do not attempt it.

Your doubts and hesitations will infect your execution. Timidity is dangerous. Better to enter with boldness. Any mistakes you commit through audacity are easily corrected with MORE audacity.

Everyone admires the bold, noone honors the timid.

[ABC333]

I’m feeling like I need to try out PCC for a couple cycles. I haven’t tried it since it’s first version. I’m not entirely sure if this is recon from LBFH or it’s the wayfinder, way of ROI, Achille’s heel modules from my custom at work.

I bought Wanted Black and was ready to start that for my next cycle. But I decided to play it safe and hold off until I’m ready to take a break on my custom.

So I’m thinking I just might try out PCC and if I don’t like it after 2 cycles I can always go back to LBFH. I think PCC might be just what I need to tighten up any loose ends in the social game so I can really level up in life at this time.

[ouroboros]

@friday mentioned Carpe Diem is a fantastic module for ADHD, but TBH if we were talking about overall subs (other than ACTUAL cognitive enhancers) PCC would be probably the best sub for ADHD.

I have ADHD, I can be a bit “extra” at times, impatient, jumping into conversations ungracefully, not playing “the game” from a perspective that everyone should just be logical like me and go completely off arguments & ideas instead of the influence of the person behind them, hence, I push to be heard rather than push to be influential.

PCC is such an antidote to that

[ouroboros]

It really seems like a lot of the OG users who have some of the best results LOVE PCC whenever they use it.

It’s exactly what Saiyan4Blue called it, a secret sub. The sales page is unassuming. But… wow is it powerful. Even Saiyan recommended it to his friend because he was getting used/manipulated, but it’s SO much more than that.

Really, it just seems like if you want to leverage all the social/networking results you get, PCC is such a simple solution. Why manifest infinite sexual partners and million-dollar mentors if you’re just going to lose them because you don’t know how to go beyond “aura” and master TRUE INFLUENCE.

@Vesper you gotta switch this out for True Sell for at least one cycle, one of these days. Let True Sell imbue into your spirit, but when you get a new job, and you need to be the new guy that makes an incredible first impression right away, run PCC.

@Saiyan4Blue

5: Now i will reveal a secret which i’ve never shared anywhere before.

The forumla to my success was:
( Time and consistency with foundational subs + the secret + Taking action ).

The secret is a sleeper sub… barly mentioned and rarly journaled… 3 words

Power Can Corrupt

This is the single most improtant and overall impactful sub to ever exist and sadly, one of the most unknown… it makes dealing with people far easier and smoother.

What i reccomended to my friend starting out

He never even know subs existed. I told him a bit about them and told him about the instructions.

He started out using: Stark + Power can corrupt!

I chose Stark for him becuase its not as rough, also Power was a great choice since he was surronded by people uses him…

[ouroboros]

For those who haven’t seen it, let me remind you all of @Luther24 's breakdown of PCC and how complex it is, then the post below, comparing it to the other major social subs.

Main Disc. Thread - Power Can Corrupt ZP

Only 20 posts on this thread, eh?.. I’m tempted to leave it like that and keep PCC all to myself, lol. Anyways, I’ll try to keep this straightforward: I’ve been listening to this subliminal for a few days now. It’s still early so I don’t want to say too much… I can already tell that Power Can Corrupt ZP is incredible. It makes me feel like I can’t lose in anything social related. I’ve begun to start unconsciously using the Laws of Power in my life, making myself more likable to the people…

[Luther24]

I was high on PCC while writing all those posts, lol.

[emperor_obewan]

How is the recon on PCC for someone new to the sub? I would imagine for someone of high integrity trying to find the right path to influence in arbitrary social groups, there would be plenty of opportunities for the scripting to be activated, and a lot of potential for recon. What have those running it noticed in that respect?

[Palpatine]

The hard-core PCC users that come to mind are @Luther24, @ouroboros and @Billions

[RVconsultant]

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