Main Disc. Thread - Paragon ZP

Yes on listening days before bed, but as a third sub on same day, works for me.

Mind you I’ve only tried this with Sanguine so far, I’m thinking I should switch to 30sec with Paragon instead, because of 2 main reasons, I’m guessing Paragon has more scripting than Sanguine for sleep, and since it’s a physical shifting sub it can cause less recon/take less processing space in the stack when used the way I do.

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Starting today Paragon is in my stack. I swapped out Love Bomb for Paragon. Been having some strains and tweaks this month. Just had some crazy nerve pain or something in my tibialis muscles or something. So I’m now on the Paragon journey for some pain relief and physical healing. Paragon, Sanguine, and KB 3 is my stack for this cycle.

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If wanting to increase my personal vitality, to “grow younger” and ensure longevity would Paragon be the best option (in a custom) or is Paragon mostly just for physical healing / pain?

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See the Emperor Daddy thread where Saint and Fire recommended: Paragon, LOTS, and Khan Black.
I built a custom: Paragon/LOTS/KB3 that I started to run this week.

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Why KB3 and not KB4 or KB1?

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Why LOTS instead of Emperor Daddy?

Because Stage 3 is mainly energy production, without ot much else.
Energy that can be used by Paragon and LotS.

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I run the custom WITH emp daddy…

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@AnswerGroup @Forum_Ambassadors When running Paragon Complete, is it recommended to run the whole 15 minute loop, or 3 to 5 minutes? Which offers better healing results?

Run it like any other subliminal you currently have in your stack. It is no different from any other title in terms of microloops and loops.

You can eventually increase it over time just as you do the other audios.

Isn’t the idea of micro loops to avoid recon, get faster results, and run the micro stages at a comfortable pace?

I figured a healing title like this would be different.

I wouldn’t expect there to be any recon when telling the subconscious to heal the body.

I wouldn’t expect a healing title like this to have more complex ideas in the latter micro stages.

Am I wrong in assuming this?

From the sales page:
“be mindful of how much you listen to it…”

What does that mean? Can I listen to it too much? Too little?

I have run PC since its release date and still continue to run it in either in main store title form or in a custom. And boy is there recon.

But of course it also depends on how much reconciling you have to personally do regarding healing your body with Paragon Complete. So your results may wary. And so would your recon.

You can try a full loop and see how it goes. If you don’t have recon, continue with that.

Although am not advocating you do microloops or full loops. Am merely stating to treat it like any other SC subliminal.

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How did Paragon Complete work for you in a 3 Title Stack? Was it able to adequately heal while running 2 other titles?

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Whether in a 3 title stack or solo, it works. But what it works on depends on a lot of factors, all which am not entirely sure of.

For example, it helped me with energy, curing colds, avoiding covid or healing it quick in its early stages, reducing creatinine levels in my kidneys, better breathing, some mild heart issues, etc.

But it hasn’t cured my eyes, ears, blood clotting, etc.

As you can see, am riddled with health problems lol. But I take what I can get regarding what can be cured and live with the rest.

So I can’t answer this question fully but what I can say is again, just like any other title, if you run it in a 3 title stack, it will need more time and action. And more energy too like any other physical title.

My guess is that if one considers his or her health issues to be easier to be overcome, then they heal faster. Else it will take more time until when the mind is ready to overcome that health issue, which is when the body too overcomes it.

I wish I can clearly state whether the healing is adequate for me or not. What I can say is that I am in a better position now compared to if I didn’t have PC. So am grateful for this title.

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I’ve listened to it on and off, assumed I was healthy until my last appt, it seems to target the immediate needs rather than what you want unless you can use conscious guidance. It will be a staple in the near future but probably in a custom.

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If I were making a Paragon custom, I’d have the cores of Paragon and Sanguine. I don’t think I’ll be going that route because I just started Paragon. I also want to see what an updated Emperor Fitness is gonna be as well as possibly this potential healthy or anti-aging title that might be in the works.

Sanguine has that good mood, feel good aspect and I think paired with Paragon it’s just a one two punch. Keeps the spirits and optimism high while also working on the physical healing, definitely a winning combo.

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Paragon is like magic.

One week ago I injured my foot from kicking the heavy bag (it’s really heavy), my foot got swollen like a balloon, couldn’t step on it at all and it hurt like hell.

One loop of Paragon and I go sleep, I woke up and it hurt much less and the size was reduced greatly, also I could walk again.

Today it got worst again, same symptoms, swollen, can’t walk very painful.

Again, one loop of Paragon and go sleep, woke up and it’s much less painful and less swollen and I can walk again.

It still hurt very much tho but the difference it made is amazing, if I’m consistent with Paragon it will be healed in no time.

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Is this the ZP2 version?

The newest version

Just adding markers to make it easier to analyse later on. ZP2 is the newest version.

I’m still using the old Ultima V2 because I like falling asleep to it.

I still occasionally use Ultimas for sleep or meditation :laughing: the rest of the time though it’s new ZP.

Edit: I’m actually listening to Sage Immortal Ultima as a kind of good night meditation music :wink:

Edit 2: Elmo say no try this at home kids… grizzled cun…mquart who knows what he’s doing.

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